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How much do you consider as middleclass (TOPEND)

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concord boy

Sikeston, MO

#1 Nov 26, 2012
My middleclass topend is about $50,000! What do you consider as topend middleclass? What do you consider as a small business? I consider a small business as one that makes a profit of less than $250,000. Give me some feedback as what you think. Im talking about the bootheel not nyc!

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#2 Nov 26, 2012
I agree.
RL Abilene

Abilene, TX

#3 Nov 28, 2012
The Small Business Administration’s Office of Advocacy defines a small business as one with fewer than 500 employees. SBA says that 99.7 percent of the approximately 6 million businesses with employees are small businesses. Has nothing to do with amount of profit. Meaning a business is not measured in size by it's gain/loss columns.
concord boy

Sikeston, MO

#4 Nov 28, 2012
RL Abilene wrote:
The Small Business Administration’s Office of Advocacy defines a small business as one with fewer than 500 employees. SBA says that 99.7 percent of the approximately 6 million businesses with employees are small businesses. Has nothing to do with amount of profit. Meaning a business is not measured in size by it's gain/loss columns.
Im not asking what the Small Business Administration's office of Advocacy thinks, I'm asking the people of southeast missouri what they think in terms of money! Most people in Southeast Missouri dont think in those terms. We think of a small business as one that makes about $250,000. We dont live in that world especially in Pemiscot county, missouri.

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Since: Mar 08

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#5 Nov 28, 2012
concord boy wrote:
My middleclass topend is about $50,000! What do you consider as topend middleclass? What do you consider as a small business? I consider a small business as one that makes a profit of less than $250,000. Give me some feedback as what you think. Im talking about the bootheel not nyc!
So, according to your post, people making over $50,000 a year are not in the middle class? Do you consider them rich? What if they are a married couple with an income of $100,000 of yearly income? Do you consider them middle class or rich?

You’ve got a whole lot of people – even living in Pemiscot County – who make over $50,000 a year. I think you would even be surprised how many couples in this county make close to, if not over $250, 000 combined incomes every year.

Are they rich in your book concord boy? We are all going to start paying 21 new taxes as part of the new Obamacare after Jan.1st.

How much more do you think people who make over $50,000 (your figure) should pay to support income redistribution?

When you start thinking about paying your 2013 taxes (if you are a tax payer), you may even learn that Obama thinks of you as rich too.
concord boy

Sikeston, MO

#6 Nov 28, 2012
I think of a small business as one with fewer than 50 people! Our whole system and economy is driven by the East and West coast states. We here in the bootheel just survive and live in poverty because our government base everything on New York City and Los Angeles wages. How many people do you personally know in Pemiscot county making $50,000 a year? And to think that aint even middleclass! Hell in Pemiscot County that person is a Rich SOB!!!
Concord boy

Sikeston, MO

#7 Nov 28, 2012
ComradeWinston wrote:
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So, according to your post, people making over $50,000 a year are not in the middle class? Do you consider them rich? What if they are a married couple with an income of $100,000 of yearly income? Do you consider them middle class or rich?
You’ve got a whole lot of people – even living in Pemiscot County – who make over $50,000 a year. I think you would even be surprised how many couples in this county make close to, if not over $250, 000 combined incomes every year.
Are they rich in your book concord boy? We are all going to start paying 21 new taxes as part of the new Obamacare after Jan.1st.
How much more do you think people who make over $50,000 (your figure) should pay to support income redistribution?
When you start thinking about paying your 2013 taxes (if you are a tax payer), you may even learn that Obama thinks of you as rich too.
No I dont think there's many, even couples, in Pemiscot county making $250,000 a year. If they are then I consider them as rich in this area! In another area of the country maybe not. I doubt YOU make $50,000 a year! Im sure there are some couples that make over $50,000 a year and I guarantee you they live like they're rich!! Most individuals in this county make under $30,000 and they feel like they are middleclass. Those couples making $100,000 a year, and I doubt there's many in Pemiscot county, are living pretty high! They are high end middle class here! They aint Dollar store patrons!!!
Concord boy

Sikeston, MO

#8 Nov 28, 2012
I am not including the Farmers, I'm sure they do all right. If they hire somebody, I bet they dont pay them much!$10.00 per hour ,maybe.

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Since: Mar 08

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#9 Nov 28, 2012
Concord boy wrote:
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No I dont think there's many, even couples, in Pemiscot county making $250,000 a year. If they are then I consider them as rich in this area! In another area of the country maybe not. I doubt YOU make $50,000 a year! Im sure there are some couples that make over $50,000 a year and I guarantee you they live like they're rich!! Most individuals in this county make under $30,000 and they feel like they are middleclass. Those couples making $100,000 a year, and I doubt there's many in Pemiscot county, are living pretty high! They are high end middle class here! They aint Dollar store patrons!!!
Whatever you think Concord Boy

I don't agree with much of what you said, but you are right about one thing, we live in a very poor county.

I think $30,000 a year is working class poor, not middle class.
Wow

United States

#10 Nov 28, 2012
I have made 82000 this year so far. I am farrrrr from rich, I don't spend excessively, and I do not concider myself upper class by any standard. I know of many people in te area who make money in this range. You don't often see us out running around town showing off an blowing mo ey because our asses are working our fingers to the bone to make a life for our families. We didn't except being broke and poor and took the steps needed to be taken to have what we needed. Never have I asked for a hand out. But I have eatn my share of bologna and ramen noodles when things got tight. That I payed for might I add.

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Since: Mar 08

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#11 Nov 28, 2012
Wow wrote:
I have made 82000 this year so far. I am farrrrr from rich, I don't spend excessively, and I do not concider myself upper class by any standard. I know of many people in te area who make money in this range. You don't often see us out running around town showing off an blowing mo ey because our asses are working our fingers to the bone to make a life for our families. We didn't except being broke and poor and took the steps needed to be taken to have what we needed. Never have I asked for a hand out. But I have eatn my share of bologna and ramen noodles when things got tight. That I payed for might I add.
I hear ya, "Wow". The Title of this thread suggests Concord boy is looking for what people think is the "Top end" of what is considered Middle class. I would think $200 - 250,000 would be a fair range for upper middle class.
John Doe

Sikeston, MO

#12 Nov 28, 2012
Country Boy,

I hope this doesn't offend you but the only definitions that matter are those used by the Federal Government. I am going to guess that you are looking at the proposed Tax Hikes. That means I have a few questions to ask:

1. What happened to demands to only raise the taxes the so-called top 1%, those making a million dollars or more per year? This tax hike is now for the top 2%. More over the revenue raised by it will only run the government for 38 days and it will cost jobs in the long term.

2. Why are more and more of the democrats so willing to let this country go over this fiscal cliff?

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/democrats-fis...

I swear it is coming off as everyone is a little child. If I can't have what I want then I'm taking my ball and going home. It's stupid. The Republicans are talking about a compromise and yet the democrats don't even want to hear about raising revenue by closing tax loopholes first. They also seem unwilling to accept spending cuts. It's silly.

I guess it is really just two questions. I just don't understand the stubbornness in all of this. Aren't these people supposed to be working for the good of all while working out compromises?
Concord boy

Cape Girardeau, MO

#13 Nov 28, 2012
Wow, I am so proud of you! Sounds like you landed one of those good jobs outside this county. Maybe your wife works, I dont know. I look at the top employer in the county and that being the schools where the pay, unless you're a coach, is in the mid thirties. The hospital workers that get paid about $20,000 a year unless you're a RN. The boat about the same. The good jobs like you got is far and few! Yea I know people going to nucor make better or a truck driver. Maybe you are a skilled worker with a good education, I don't know but I'm sure you live better than most.
John Doe

Sikeston, MO

#14 Nov 28, 2012
Concord boy wrote:
Wow, I am so proud of you! Sounds like you landed one of those good jobs outside this county. Maybe your wife works, I dont know. I look at the top employer in the county and that being the schools where the pay, unless you're a coach, is in the mid thirties. The hospital workers that get paid about $20,000 a year unless you're a RN. The boat about the same. The good jobs like you got is far and few! Yea I know people going to nucor make better or a truck driver. Maybe you are a skilled worker with a good education, I don't know but I'm sure you live better than most.
Wrong, I scratch out a living the same as everyone else. As for what you see around, that is NOT indicative of the country as whole. In NYC, with its much higher cost of living teachers make in 70K range. If the cost of living is high, then salaries are higher and if it is lower, then wages are lower
guest

Steele, MO

#15 Nov 28, 2012
If being a millionaire is rich would middle class not be half of that? If Obama want's to tax the rich start with 800,000 on up.
Concord boy

United States

#16 Nov 28, 2012
If y'all read the post I said not in NYC! I'm strictly talking about the bootheel of Missouri. Just wanted to see what the people of this area thought the middle class was and what you considered a small business. What do u think not NYC!
guest

Steele, MO

#17 Nov 28, 2012
Yearly income for a family of four

Living in poverty – up to $28,000

Working class -$28,000 to $55,000

Lower middle class -$55,000 to $80,000

Median middle class -$80,000 to $120,000

Upper middle class -$120,000 to $200,000
working man

United States

#18 Nov 28, 2012
Concord boy wrote:
If y'all read the post I said not in NYC! I'm strictly talking about the bootheel of Missouri. Just wanted to see what the people of this area thought the middle class was and what you considered a small business. What do u think not NYC!
I run a small business in Pemiscot County! 0 employees, only me and I gross around $150,000 a year! Net around $90,000 of that. Involves a damn sight more than 40 hrs a week and a lot of time away from family! I want more than living hand to mouth like most have to do! Wife brings home about 40,000 a year with her job but I still dont think we are considered rich by any means! I would say we are middle class.
Lefty

United States

#19 Nov 29, 2012
I think u would be surprised what farm hands make. My boss man paid me close to 40000 dollars last year with the bonus included and I am far from middle class.
concord boy

Sikeston, MO

#20 Nov 29, 2012
I defintely am surprised with the pay farmers are paying these days. This has been very interesting to say the least. I see where the median household pay is around $28,000 dollars a year and the median family pay is around $33,000 a year in pemiscot county. It just shows you how many different opinions there are. There's a lot of poor that are pulling it down tho and the average is $15,000 per year.

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