America Was Founded on "Socialism"...

America Was Founded on "Socialism"...

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1961 Alumni Rolla MO

Rolla, MO

#1 Aug 10, 2014
From the very 1st century of our Republic, we were short of capital, short of workers, & short of industrial production: but, we were rich in land, & free timber & free mineral wealth.

Back then, the Federal Gov. rightly assumed the duty of promoting business & relieving depression by GIVING SUBSIDIES of land and other resources. Thus from our earliest days - we've always had a tradtion of SUBSTANTIAL GOVERNMENT HELP to our system of private enterprise.

FDR's "new deal" which was government intervention in the economy - was not about destroying indivisual liberty - it was about restoring individual liberty.

It was about making capitolism work in such a way as to ensure equal opportunity for all Americans, not just the priviliged few at the top.

FDR well understood, it was the failing of the free market to provide the average American with basic economic security - that got our country into the crisis in the first place - in the 1930's & now - 2008-2014.

Prosperity was & is not dependent on the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few - but, rather on the economic strength of millions of men & women who make up America's vast working & middle class.

For without purchasing power - or what FDR called the "fair distribution of buying power" - A STRONG VIBRANT ECONOMY IS NOT POSSIBLE...
DrDARWIN

San Francisco, CA

#2 Aug 10, 2014
So...
You are a proud socialist who doesn't think capitalism works. What else is new.

Play your cards right and the Castro brothers may exchange your properties and retirement income for a bungalow and free healthcare. No charge for the nice tropical climate. Not sure how you'd like the food or choice of books to read.

While capitalism isn't perfect, it's the best thing man has yet to create.
1961 Alumni Rolla MO

Rolla, MO

#3 Aug 11, 2014
DrDARWIN wrote:
So...
You are a proud socialist who doesn't think capitalism works. What else is new.
Play your cards right and the Castro brothers may exchange your properties and retirement income for a bungalow and free healthcare. No charge for the nice tropical climate. Not sure how you'd like the food or choice of books to read.
While capitalism isn't perfect, it's the best thing man has yet to create.
Yes, I'm proud to be an American - but I'm saddened that so many (like you) don't seem to have the brain capabiltiy to understand that without government invervention (or what you want to call socialism) America would not be the great country it is today.

America was founded upon a mix of capitalism & socialism policies.

Here's a list of just some of the "Socialists" programs that make up our great country:

All government agencies, federal, state, county & city
Our U.S military
All highways, railways, bridges, dams etc.
All of our law enforcment - police, sheriff, highway-patrol FBI, secret service
Hospitals
Schools
Colleges
Parks
Lakes
Rivers & streams (are maintained by government agencies)
Utilities, water, electricity etc.(are subsidized by government)
Ball parks,
Stadiums
Social Security
Medicare
Medicaid
Welfare
Foodstamps
And, the list goes on & on...

So, do you right-wingers really want to do away with all "SOCIALISM"...?

If you right-wingers are really serious about getting rid of all socialism - I suggest you find some remote uninhabited island - and then you can just live off the land & sea.

Because, that is the only way that you can live "Socialist Free" & not be bothered by any kind of "GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION"...
Jerry

East Stroudsburg, PA

#4 Aug 11, 2014
The Principles That Founded The United States are Socialism?? YOUR A Loon Alumni! Plan and Simple! To actually Start Following The Same Thing That The German People followed to destruction!! The Nazi's were Socialist and you see where that went..

The UNITED STATES was Found on These Principles and The FIRST was GOD and Christianity!!!!!!!
OUR Founding Principles
The principle that each person is born with freedom from arbitrary or unjustified restraint
Federalism:
A system of dual sovereignty. The people delegate certain powers to the national government,
while the states and the people retain those powers not delegated.
Limited Government:
The philosophy that the national government has only those powers given to it in the Constitution. If a power is not listed, the national government is assumed not to have it.
Representative Government:
A republican system where the people select representatives to represent their interests as they
make and carry out laws.
Private Property:
A system where individuals have the right to obtain and control possessions, as well as the fruits of
their own labor.
“All Men Are Created Equal”:
The understanding that there is no natural class of rulers among people, and that all are born with
the same unalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Separation of Powers/Checks and Balances:
A system of distinct powers built into the constitution, to prevent an accumulation of power in one
branch, and in order to ensure each branch can stop the others from growing too powerful.

NOWHERE is Socialism in The Constitution or ANY Paper that was Founded OR any LAW has any mention of Socialism
As for Social security goes? it was A nice Idea but Faltered when The DEMOCRATS kept Stealing from it and Letting ANYONE who was deemed TO stupid or To Lazy to work get put on it! EVEN IF YOU NEVER PUT INTO THE PROGRAM!! Its whyThe Feds are always raising the Age requirement before your able to put on it!!There hoping you DIE before your start collecting!!!!!!!!!!
YOU ALUMNI Need to STOP Listening to Al Sharpton MSNBC and the Liberalism of the Left OR Maybe Move into A Major Metro City!!Go See where Those Social programs have been put to use for over sixty plus years.... go see where All those People who don't want to work Live!! DRUGS RIOTS Prostitution Slave Labor is RAMPANT in your Socialistic Microcosms called inner city Metropolises, Just Look on the News! The Suburb of Missouri right now is Burning to the ground!!! Instead of waiting to find out what happened The ones who are on Social programs go out to riot pillage and plunder Till the Hearts are content !! YOU can have it!! All you gotta do is Move your Dumb ass to A city!! SEE how far that Socialism Gets ya...LOL
DrDARWIN

Ashburn, VA

#5 Aug 11, 2014
Jerry wrote:
The Principles That Founded The United States are Socialism?? YOUR A Loon Alumni! Plan and Simple! To actually Start Following The Same Thing That The German People followed to destruction!! The Nazi's were Socialist and you see where that went..
The UNITED STATES was Found on These Principles and The FIRST was GOD and Christianity!!!!!!!
OUR Founding Principles
The principle that each person is born with freedom from arbitrary or unjustified restraint
Federalism:
A system of dual sovereignty. The people delegate certain powers to the national government,
while the states and the people retain those powers not delegated.
Limited Government:
The philosophy that the national government has only those powers given to it in the Constitution. If a power is not listed, the national government is assumed not to have it.
Representative Government:
A republican system where the people select representatives to represent their interests as they
make and carry out laws.
Private Property:
A system where individuals have the right to obtain and control possessions, as well as the fruits of
their own labor.
“All Men Are Created Equal”:
The understanding that there is no natural class of rulers among people, and that all are born with
the same unalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Separation of Powers/Checks and Balances:
A system of distinct powers built into the constitution, to prevent an accumulation of power in one
branch, and in order to ensure each branch can stop the others from growing too powerful.
NOWHERE is Socialism in The Constitution or ANY Paper that was Founded OR any LAW has any mention of Socialism
As for Social security goes? it was A nice Idea but Faltered when The DEMOCRATS kept Stealing from it and Letting ANYONE who was deemed TO stupid or To Lazy to work get put on it! EVEN IF YOU NEVER PUT INTO THE PROGRAM!! Its whyThe Feds are always raising the Age requirement before your able to put on it!!There hoping you DIE before your start collecting!!!!!!!!!!
YOU ALUMNI Need to STOP Listening to Al Sharpton MSNBC and the Liberalism of the Left OR Maybe Move into A Major Metro City!!Go See where Those Social programs have been put to use for over sixty plus years.... go see where All those People who don't want to work Live!! DRUGS RIOTS Prostitution Slave Labor is RAMPANT in your Socialistic Microcosms called inner city Metropolises, Just Look on the News! The Suburb of Missouri right now is Burning to the ground!!! Instead of waiting to find out what happened The ones who are on Social programs go out to riot pillage and plunder Till the Hearts are content !! YOU can have it!! All you gotta do is Move your Dumb ass to A city!! SEE how far that Socialism Gets ya...LOL
Keep beating the socialist drum alumni61.

Be for anything that transfers from the middle-class and gives to the poor. Be a good liberal democrat and vote for higher taxes and more regulations being slapped on all businesspeople. Remember, your a guilty capitalist pig who owes it to the poor to equalize the playing field. Your life's on the downward slide so, nows as good a time to be for "income redistribution".

And always remember The word socialism is not in the constitution. Because the founding fathers had vision combined with brains. Two things you have to leave at the door if you join up with the democrats.
Tiger High

Shreveport, LA

#6 Aug 12, 2014
1961 Alumni Rolla MO wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I'm proud to be an American - but I'm saddened that so many (like you) don't seem to have the brain capabiltiy to understand that without government invervention (or what you want to call socialism) America would not be the great country it is today.
America was founded upon a mix of capitalism & socialism policies.
Here's a list of just some of the "Socialists" programs that make up our great country:
All government agencies, federal, state, county & city
Our U.S military
All highways, railways, bridges, dams etc.
All of our law enforcment - police, sheriff, highway-patrol FBI, secret service
Hospitals
Schools
Colleges
Parks
Lakes
Rivers & streams (are maintained by government agencies)
Utilities, water, electricity etc.(are subsidized by government)
Ball parks,
Stadiums
Social Security
Medicare
Medicaid
Welfare
Foodstamps
And, the list goes on & on...
So, do you right-wingers really want to do away with all "SOCIALISM"...?
If you right-wingers are really serious about getting rid of all socialism - I suggest you find some remote uninhabited island - and then you can just live off the land & sea.
Because, that is the only way that you can live "Socialist Free" & not be bothered by any kind of "GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION"...
your list says it all - federal government is has too many fingers in the pie - much, not all but much, of what you listed should be regulated at the state level - who in the fudge in Washington dc knows what "welfare people" need in eros, la - time's a comin, 61, time's a comin
1961 Alumni Rolla MO

Rolla, MO

#7 Aug 12, 2014
Tiger High wrote:
<quoted text>your list says it all - federal government is has too many fingers in the pie - much, not all but much, of what you listed should be regulated at the state level - who in the fudge in Washington dc knows what "welfare people" need in eros, la - time's a comin, 61, time's a comin
Tiger, you must be high as a kite on your "medicine"! Don't you realize many of the things I listed are already regulated by the state, county & city.

But when you say "some" I supose you mean Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, Foodstamps should be regulated by the state.

Look, we all know what would happen if the above listed programs were controlled by the states!

Just look what those states with Republican Governors & Republican led legislation have already done. They've REFUSED to accept millions of dollars which would expand Medicaid
which could insure million & millions of uninsured people.

And, the fact that millions & millions of those uninsured people (are their constituents)- might create quite a problem for them in the mid-term election...

Yes, these people are not stupid - all they have to do is look at their neighboring states - and realize that they are not getting insurance because their REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS have refused to allow them to have insurance coverage - because of PURE POLITICAL SPITE against Obama & his policies...

No, you are wrong, wrong, wrong - Republican Governors & Republican led state legislators CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING!

If the states had contoll of these programs - we'd soon see people going hungry & homeless & without medical care. We would also see S.S. privatized & Medicare voucherized...

Absolutely not!!! Republican DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SENSE TO CONTROL THESE PROGRAMS...!!!
XDEMOCRAT

Seattle, WA

#8 Aug 12, 2014
All Obama knows how to do is be a "community organizer" ..... just whip up hate and discontent .... divide people ....

Just read how much he's got poor 1961alumni all full of hate and whipped up...

He's a complete empty suit .....

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