FactCheck.org IS A Conservative Bias...

FactCheck.org IS A Conservative Biased Website !!!

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1961 Alumni ROLLA MO

Rolla, MO

#1 Oct 5, 2012
FactCheck.org is run by Conservative Philanthropist, Annenburg Foundation.

This analysis ia a statement of general caution to those using factcheck.org as a means of determining "true & false" during the current election cycle.

As any organization or individual claiming to have a complete understanding of "facts" should fall under scrutiny for such a claim,- factcheck.org is not exception.

Factcheck.org provides substantive & in-depth analysis of issues & topics & has been cited this election cycle as providing a sound basis from which to determnd who may be misrepresenting facts and why.

And though much of the facts & analysis presented on factcheck.org site seem unbiased & cite numerous sources, a number come from those with a conservative bent like the Heritage Foundation or McCain political advisers.

To better understand the potentially conservative bias of the website - factcheck.org - it is worthwhile to examine who runs it - namely - Annenberg Foundation.

The Annenberg Foundation is one of the 12 largest organizations in the U.S., operating under a 3 billion dollar grant given by Walter Annenberg.

The foundations primary goal has been to provide grants to schools in order to improve quality of education. However, a number of satellite media-related organizations have sprung for Annenberg projects.one of them being, factcheck.org .

WALTER ANNENBERG IS A POWERFUL CONSERVATIVE PUBLISHING MOGUL & AMBASSADOR TO ENGLAND.

(To anyone who wishes to read more about this, key in: Factcheck.org is run by Conservative Philanthropist.)

This answers a lot of questions about several Topix posters who claim to get their "so-called facts" from factcheck.org .

THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE BIASED FACT-CHECKING WEBSITE!!!
John Doe

Poplar Bluff, MO

#2 Oct 5, 2012
Alumni,

I swear, when you grasp at straws you really go for it.

If factcheck.org is this disreputable, conservative based organization why does ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN cite information from the factcheck as being valid, hard facts?

Do you care to mention that George Soros, a noted and disreputable progressive billion who started his fortune by working with the Nazi's funds Huffington Post, THINK PROGRESSIVE, Media matters and others?

The truth is this. You're man, President Obama, screwed up the debate and lost. He was royally trounced and now the left propaganda machine is spreading more slanted stories and out right lies than any other organization in history. You being a brainwashed democrat liberal are buying everything they tell as being the truth.

The truth is that your THINK PROGRESSIVE is a partisan site and because factcheck does not agree with you and THINK PROGRESSIVE you are now using the old Democrat trick of trying slander the messenger.

Good God, to pull and try to be even semi convincing in your raving here you had better contact the news divisions of ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN and try to get them to stop using factcheck.org information as valid hard facts.

And for the record let me state I did go look at THINK PROGRESSIVE. How do you think I learned about it being a partisan, liberal, left wing progressive site?
1961 Alumni ROLLA MO

Rolla, MO

#3 Oct 5, 2012
John Doe wrote:
Alumni,
I swear, when you grasp at straws you really go for it.
If factcheck.org is this disreputable, conservative based organization why does ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN cite information from the factcheck as being valid, hard facts?
Do you care to mention that George Soros, a noted and disreputable progressive billion who started his fortune by working with the Nazi's funds Huffington Post, THINK PROGRESSIVE, Media matters and others?
The truth is this. You're man, President Obama, screwed up the debate and lost. He was royally trounced and now the left propaganda machine is spreading more slanted stories and out right lies than any other organization in history. You being a brainwashed democrat liberal are buying everything they tell as being the truth.
The truth is that your THINK PROGRESSIVE is a partisan site and because factcheck does not agree with you and THINK PROGRESSIVE you are now using the old Democrat trick of trying slander the messenger.
Good God, to pull and try to be even semi convincing in your raving here you had better contact the news divisions of ABC, CBS, NBC, and CNN and try to get them to stop using factcheck.org information as valid hard facts.
And for the record let me state I did go look at THINK PROGRESSIVE. How do you think I learned about it being a partisan, liberal, left wing progressive site?
Have you heard me deny that (on the surface) it looked like Romney won??? No, you have not! Romney put on a VERY GOOD SHOW & he was very entertaining! But, as most of us know - it was just that - A SHOW!

He was not being the presidental candidate he's been for 18 months. As, a matter of fact, he has all of America scratching their heads trying to figure out just WHO he was on Oct 3, at the debate.

With Romney, you never know who or what he is going to be at any given time. The man sways any way the wind blows. And he will say anything he thinks people want to hear. HE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CONVICTIONS - except his passionate desire to be president & his refusal to show has tax returns!

When you go through the whole debate & pick out all the false statements he made, you realize all he was doing was putting on a show. Even today, he is out back-tracking himself on some of the false statement he made (on the orders of the Republican party)!

This was not a debate - how could anyone debate with an obviously disturbed (or drugged) man who seemed to be far removed from reality. When a man tells 27 lies in a span of 38 minutes THERE IS NO DEBATE - you just have to stand back & let him rant.

I want to see your source that ABC, CBS, NBC & CNN uses factcheck.org as their fact-checking source.

From where I sit my facts report about the 27 lies Romney told is just as accurate source as factcheck.org .

Are you now denying that factcheck.org has conservative connections & ties???

“Radical Islam! Radical Islam! ”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#4 Oct 5, 2012
Alum61...

You've become an Obama Nazi with zero credibility.

A veritable laughing stock…

Your thread subjects are funny, I'll give you that...lol
John Doe

Poplar Bluff, MO

#5 Oct 5, 2012
1961 Alumni ROLLA MO wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you heard me deny that (on the surface) it looked like Romney won??? No, you have not! Romney put on a VERY GOOD SHOW & he was very entertaining! But, as most of us know - it was just that - A SHOW!
He was not being the presidental candidate he's been for 18 months. As, a matter of fact, he has all of America scratching their heads trying to figure out just WHO he was on Oct 3, at the debate.
With Romney, you never know who or what he is going to be at any given time. The man sways any way the wind blows. And he will say anything he thinks people want to hear. HE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CONVICTIONS - except his passionate desire to be president & his refusal to show has tax returns!
When you go through the whole debate & pick out all the false statements he made, you realize all he was doing was putting on a show. Even today, he is out back-tracking himself on some of the false statement he made (on the orders of the Republican party)!
This was not a debate - how could anyone debate with an obviously disturbed (or drugged) man who seemed to be far removed from reality. When a man tells 27 lies in a span of 38 minutes THERE IS NO DEBATE - you just have to stand back & let him rant.
I want to see your source that ABC, CBS, NBC & CNN uses factcheck.org as their fact-checking source.
From where I sit my facts report about the 27 lies Romney told is just as accurate source as factcheck.org .
Are you now denying that factcheck.org has conservative connections & ties???
I am telling you factcheck is recognized as being a reputable non-biased, non partisan site.

As for my source of what ABC,CBS, NBC, and CNN say about factcheck, I saw it watching the show and they never once qualified it with "a notorious right wing site" as they do when make reports on stuff that comes from legitimate right wing sites. As for actually proving it, you tell me how to post what a commentator is saying on television as I'm watching it, and by God, I'll do it.
Guest

Caruthersville, MO

#6 Oct 6, 2012
ComradeWinston wrote:
Alum61...
You've become an Obama Nazi with zero credibility.
A veritable laughing stock…
Your thread subjects are funny, I'll give you that...lol
Funny to who? Conservative narrow minded haters like yourself maybe.
Guest

Caruthersville, MO

#7 Oct 6, 2012
John Doe wrote:
<quoted text>
I am telling you factcheck is recognized as being a reputable non-biased, non partisan site.
As for my source of what ABC,CBS, NBC, and CNN say about factcheck, I saw it watching the show and they never once qualified it with "a notorious right wing site" as they do when make reports on stuff that comes from legitimate right wing sites. As for actually proving it, you tell me how to post what a commentator is saying on television as I'm watching it, and by God, I'll do it.
You mean to tell me with all the YouTube links conservative narrow minded haters like yourself post that you cant find what your looking for? Its probably there, you just dont want to make your posts to appear more dumber than they do without the help of YouTube.
Gene

Caruthersville, MO

#8 Oct 6, 2012
ComradeWinston wrote:
Alum61...
You've become an Obama Nazi with zero credibility.
A veritable laughing stock…
Your thread subjects are funny, I'll give you that...lol
So your jealous shes taking center stage over your ignorance. Here is some factcheck.org about YOU!

You have lied more than anyone in this forum.
You lied when you said you never read my posts.
You lied when you said you live in Cooter MO only to later announce that you live no where near Cooter MO.
You lied that you are not Republican even though you endorse, support, post all about the GOP.
You lied when accused numerous others in here of being me...I always laugh when you do. Paranoid jackass.
You lied about gas prices reaching $5 per gallon before election day ONLY to use California as your excuse when a Chevron refinery explosion was the reason for the gas price spike in CA.(Yea another way to gouge, but your so dam desperate youll use anything to keep up the hate)

So factcheck that you racist bumbling boob!
1961 Alumni ROLLA MO

Rolla, MO

#9 Oct 6, 2012
John Doe wrote:
<quoted text>
I am telling you factcheck is recognized as being a reputable non-biased, non partisan site.
As for my source of what ABC,CBS, NBC, and CNN say about factcheck, I saw it watching the show and they never once qualified it with "a notorious right wing site" as they do when make reports on stuff that comes from legitimate right wing sites. As for actually proving it, you tell me how to post what a commentator is saying on television as I'm watching it, and by God, I'll do it.
So, I'm just supposed to take you word that you are telling the truth? Sorry, no can do!
John Doe

Poplar Bluff, MO

#10 Oct 6, 2012
No, you could try watching those channels to see it. As I said you show me how to post television commentary as I am watching it and I'll do it. You are making slanderous allegations to protect your precious THINK PROGRESS when they declare on their own site that they are leftist and liberal.

You know you should read this: http://factcheck.org/about/

And I recommend you read this:

http://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/Ab...

I know you won't and even if you did you would have stupid remark about them lying but it's worth a try
John Doe

Poplar Bluff, MO

#11 Oct 6, 2012
Alumni,

You want to slam Ambassador Walter Annenberg as being a conservative. I really suggest that you know where of you speak.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Annenberg

I suggest you read that and you read the section on his philanthropy. Please not where he made his charitable donations then tell me what makes him a conservative.

If you could just 1% of the humanitarian that Ambassador Annenberg was then you would be one hell of a person. But what are you instead? You attack a dead man who couldn't defend himself if he was so disposed. You rant and rave all of the left's propaganda and call anything that disagrees with your personal vision of life and what life should be as a lie.

You talk about being a Christian and you spout bible versus while support the left that is for abortion and gay marriage, both of which are in opposition to what is in the bible.
1961 ROLLA MO

Rolla, MO

#12 Oct 6, 2012
John Doe wrote:
Alumni,
You want to slam Ambassador Walter Annenberg as being a conservative. I really suggest that you know where of you speak.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Annenberg
I suggest you read that and you read the section on his philanthropy. Please not where he made his charitable donations then tell me what makes him a conservative.
If you could just 1% of the humanitarian that Ambassador Annenberg was then you would be one hell of a person. But what are you instead? You attack a dead man who couldn't defend himself if he was so disposed. You rant and rave all of the left's propaganda and call anything that disagrees with your personal vision of life and what life should be as a lie.
You talk about being a Christian and you spout bible versus while support the left that is for abortion and gay marriage, both of which are in opposition to what is in the bible.
That's well & good that Annenbert was a great humanitarian. But, the fact remains - that factcheck.org is still a conservative biased website.
John Doe

Poplar Bluff, MO

#13 Oct 6, 2012
Alumni,

You tried to prove that by saying he was conservative and as such his foundation was conservative and by extension factcheck was conservative. The problem is that when you learn the truth about who Ambassador Annenbert, your entire argument crumbles like the proverbial house of cards in the winds.

Nice of you to continue to disrespect the world by not using their titles.
1961 ROLLA MO

Rolla, MO

#14 Oct 6, 2012
John Doe wrote:
Alumni,
You tried to prove that by saying he was conservative and as such his foundation was conservative and by extension factcheck was conservative. The problem is that when you learn the truth about who Ambassador Annenbert, your entire argument crumbles like the proverbial house of cards in the winds.
Nice of you to continue to disrespect the world by not using their titles.
That is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard! How has learning the truth about Annenbert got anything to do with the fact that factcheck.org is a conservative website???
John Doe

Poplar Bluff, MO

#15 Oct 6, 2012
Alumni's basic theory was that Ambassador was a conservative. Because he was the conservative the Annenbert Foundation that he found was conservative. Further, because Factcheck is an offshoot of the Annenbert Foundation then it too must be conservative.

Ambassador Annenbert was not a conservative but A HUMANIST, the whole tower crumbles. He is not a conservative so his foundtation is not conservative and as such factcheck is not conservative.

Add this to the fact that ABC News, CBS News, NBC News, and CNN all treat and report on information from factcheck as accurate, non-biased, facts.
Arbitros

Denver, CO

#16 Oct 7, 2012
If Romney and is surrogates are called out on their falsehoods and misrepresentations by Factcheck.org more than Obama and his surrogates, it's because the Romney camp has more falsehoods and misrepresentations. Don't shoot the messenger!
Gene

Caruthersville, MO

#17 Oct 7, 2012
The Annenberg Foundation was originally founded by Walter J. Annenberg, a conservative who supported Ronald Reagan. However, when Walter Annenberg died, his family took over the management of the foundation and it took a turn to the far left and has ties to radical left individuals such as Bill Ayers and his friend and fellow left wing radical collegue Barack Obama. How is factcheck.org associated with these people:

To start, Ayers was the key founder of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was a Chicago public school reform project from 1995 to 2001. Upon its start in 1995, Obama was appointed Board Chairman and President of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Geesh, that alone connects all three. Well, it branches out even more from there.

Ayers co-chaired the organization’s Collaborative, which set the education policies of the Challenge. Oddly enough, Obama was the one who was authorized to delegate to the Collaborative in regards to its programs and projects. In addition to that, Obama often times had to seek advice and assistance from the Ayer’s led Collaborative in regards to the programmatic aspects of grant proposals. Ayers even sat on the same board as Obama as an “ex officio member”. They both also sat together on the board of the CAC’s Governance Committee. Obama and Ayers were two parts of a group of four who were instructed to draft the bylaws that would govern the CAC. Keep in mind that the “A” in CAC is for Annenberg, the owners of FactCheck.org . The funding for Ayer’s projects and those of his cronies was approved by Board Chair, Barack Obama.
Gene

Caruthersville, MO

#18 Oct 7, 2012
and of course Comrade John Doe McClemore will want links facts yada yada yada....look it up your dam self you lazy jackass
1961 Alumni ROLLA MO

Rolla, MO

#19 Oct 7, 2012
Gene wrote:
The Annenberg Foundation was originally founded by Walter J. Annenberg, a conservative who supported Ronald Reagan. However, when Walter Annenberg died, his family took over the management of the foundation and it took a turn to the far left and has ties to radical left individuals such as Bill Ayers and his friend and fellow left wing radical collegue Barack Obama. How is factcheck.org associated with these people:
To start, Ayers was the key founder of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was a Chicago public school reform project from 1995 to 2001. Upon its start in 1995, Obama was appointed Board Chairman and President of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Geesh, that alone connects all three. Well, it branches out even more from there.
Ayers co-chaired the organization’s Collaborative, which set the education policies of the Challenge. Oddly enough, Obama was the one who was authorized to delegate to the Collaborative in regards to its programs and projects. In addition to that, Obama often times had to seek advice and assistance from the Ayer’s led Collaborative in regards to the programmatic aspects of grant proposals. Ayers even sat on the same board as Obama as an “ex officio member”. They both also sat together on the board of the CAC’s Governance Committee. Obama and Ayers were two parts of a group of four who were instructed to draft the bylaws that would govern the CAC. Keep in mind that the “A” in CAC is for Annenberg, the owners of FactCheck.org . The funding for Ayer’s projects and those of his cronies was approved by Board Chair, Barack Obama.
Obama is not an officer or director of the Annenberg Foundation! Nor, is any prominent Democrat or Republican. Instead the foundation's directors are members of the Annenberg family - which is a traditonal conservative family with conservatrive values.

Because of the Annenberg family's traditional conservative values - they supported John McCain & supported him financially in the 2008 presidential race. I have not been able to find out if they are supporting Romney in this election yet.

So, contrary to the rumor that factcheck.org has liberal ties, just the opposite is true! The parent company of factcheck.org (The Annenbert Foundation) has very strong conservative ties!

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#20 Oct 7, 2012
1961 Alumni ROLLA MO wrote:
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(The Annenbert Foundation) has very strong conservative ties!
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