Lottery winner

United States

#22 Aug 11, 2008
And I was not talking about the Child Support Enforcement Office, note the name, I was talking about the courts that enforce the court orders. The courts and judges that will enforce child support orders but not visitation orders, note the reference. LOL
Tired

Senath, MO

#23 Aug 11, 2008
Blah wrote:
Does anyone know if once you are married and have a child (in that marriage) would it lower the amount of child support you are paying from a previous relationship??
I am currently paying ALOT of child support for my first kid. His mother and I were not ever married. I am now remarried and have just found out we are expecting a child. Wouldn't that drop the amount I am paying to my son's mother- since I will be supporting two kids and a wife now. I was told it would drop it if I went back to court or my lawyers and told them that I was expecting another child. My friend told me to handle it the same way I would if my son's mother got a new job with a high pay rate, they would just refigure the amount I'm paying?
Does anyone have any information on this?
I recive childsupport from my ex and I have 2 of his kids and he remarried and now has a son in his current marriage and he thought his child support was going to get lowered but it didn't when he went back and had it re figured up. It raised his child support and he was only bringing home $1.00 a week because child support and insurance was taking all his money but I went and had it lowered myself so he could live because if he has no gas money to get to work I can't get child support and it effects all of us and not just him.
Ima Tellit

United States

#24 Aug 12, 2008
Lottery winner wrote:
And I was not talking about the Child Support Enforcement Office, note the name, I was talking about the courts that enforce the court orders. The courts and judges that will enforce child support orders but not visitation orders, note the reference. LOL
show up at regular visit times, call police & make them enforce the order. Even if it does not work out--- the kid sees that you ARE trying to spend time with them... & it's FREE. You have to MAKE things go your way sometimes!

(just a thought)
Lottery winner

United States

#25 Aug 12, 2008
Ima Tellit wrote:
<quoted text>
show up at regular visit times, call police & make them enforce the order. Even if it does not work out--- the kid sees that you ARE trying to spend time with them... & it's FREE. You have to MAKE things go your way sometimes!
(just a thought)
You must have never had to try to enforce the so called order. The police say it is a civil matter and will not get involved. And it is hard for the kids to see you trying when you show up and the ex doesnt and when you call to see why they do not show up the police threaten to arrest you for harrassment for calling to see where you kids are. I am glad it is over for me but I do see why fathers get so aggravated at the way the system works and how his rights to his children are not enforced. I have been there and done it and let me tell ya, you may think you know how it works but you have no idea. And the child support office does a good job of what they are tasked to do. It is the courts that do not make it important to enforce a fathers visitation rights. But it is all good now. Just feel sorry for the fathers who have to play the legal game for years to come.

(Not just a thought, reality)
Guest

United States

#26 Aug 12, 2008
Call police to make a RECORD - admissable in Court record - of violation of your visitation. You call and say I went to so and so to get my kids PER A COURT ORDER and tell them what happened. Call them to the house/site you are refused visitation. Keeping a record at home is better than nothing. But getting an officer to witness and verify it every time - let me tell you - if a father really cares and WANTS his visitation - it WILL BE taken seriously. If you have not tried - go to Division I on the third floor and tell them you need to file a Family Access Motion - it's kind of like a restraining order - it's free - and you get a hearing in front of a judge. There again, making a PERFECT RECORD. A couple of times in that court and the Judge will get tired of looking at yall. Alienating/interfering in a parental relationship is grounds for change of custody. You just have to have PROOF.
Big Sexy

Blacksburg, VA

#27 Aug 13, 2008
bssouth2008 wrote:
<quoted text>So you are saying that your obligation to your child should lower because you decided to add another obligation. I don't think it works like that and if it does it shouldn't. What does how much the mother makes have to do with your obligation to the child in the first place??? That logic does not even remotely compute. If that were the case then you could have 300 children and lower your payment to almost nothing.
You are REAL smart!
OMG

United States

#28 Aug 13, 2008
I cant believe all the different opinions on this. It does matter what the mother makes. They take into consideration what she makes, the father makes, and if either party have other children in the house. If the mother has another child in the home and does the modification she gets NO credit for her other child by another man. If the father does the modification he gets no credit for the child by another mother in his home. I know what Im talking about. But if the mother does the modification he will get credit for his other children. We just went through this
guest

United States

#29 Aug 13, 2008
OMG wrote:
I cant believe all the different opinions on this. It does matter what the mother makes. They take into consideration what she makes, the father makes, and if either party have other children in the house. If the mother has another child in the home and does the modification she gets NO credit for her other child by another man. If the father does the modification he gets no credit for the child by another mother in his home. I know what Im talking about. But if the mother does the modification he will get credit for his other children. We just went through this
I just went through it too. And if the father or the mother are the biological parents of another child in your home you do get a credit. I got the book and the worksheets in front of me at the moment. You also get credit for any other children you are paying child support on. There is a book at the library that is named "Missouri Divorce Handbook" and it explains all this and has examples. It is in the reference section. Has all the forms and examples in it for the child support issue in Missouri.
OMG

United States

#30 Aug 13, 2008
They were never married and besides that she didnt get credit for her other child in the home because SHE had the modification done. You only get credit if the other parent does the modification. I dont know why but that is the way they did us. We got credit for both of our children because SHE asked for the modification and she did NOT get credit for her other child by another man. Understand what i am saying. It is hard to explain.
Guest

Fairmont, WV

#31 Aug 13, 2008
My child support was lowered because my ex-husband had twins. It went from $150 to $50. Luckily, I just graduated nursing school so I won't have to worry about trying to survive on a little more than min. wage and a whole $50 a month just because he decided he wanted to bring more people into this world he could afford. I was told I could challenge the case in 3 years if his wages went up.
bssouth2008

United States

#32 Aug 13, 2008
Big Sexy wrote:
<quoted text>
You are REAL smart!
Oh thank you "Big" for thanking so. Some other people also agree.
lightstar

AOL

#33 Dec 23, 2008
i have 2 kids with my ex , im trying to get child support right now but he has another child that he is paying child support, will i get 28% for my to in illinois or will i get less cause he pays already 20 %?
just a thought

United States

#34 Dec 23, 2008
Instead of asking people on here why don't you ask a lawyer.That way you will get the right answer and just asking doesn't cost you anything but may save you in the long run. It may also make a difference if your support amount was ordered by the state or if it was ordered by a judge. Judges can be more understanding than the state in some cases.
Mad Mom

Jefferson City, MO

#35 Dec 24, 2008
If you don't want to support your kids, don't have any, there is plenty a man can do to prevent it....I'm sooo tired of men complaining about thier obligation to support thier kids. Most of the ones that contribute thier support don't share in the responsibility of raising them. Stand up be a man and be a Dad, it's not just the Mom's place to raise and spend time with your children.
Sick

Jefferson City, MO

#36 Dec 24, 2008
I too have been put through the system. There are guidelines that the courts must follow based on the income of both parents. Having another child should lower the amount of support, but you will most likely need to prove that you are supporting the other child financially. It is easy for most custodial parents (mostly female) to totally agree with the system, because it is primarily a positive outcome for them. It seems they want you to pay for the child, as well as them. I sincerely think they should have to prove that the support is used on behalf of the child. The main purpose of child support is Food, Shelter, & Clothing. If the custodial parent cannot afford the child then give the child to the Non-Custodial parent (normally male). Rarely will that happen because they know the child support will need to come out of their paycheck. It is easy to criticize, until you are the one that is paying.
mad mom

Jefferson City, MO

#37 Dec 24, 2008
It's easy to complain when you aren't the one that is taking care of the child. Most custodial parents(moms) are the ones responsible for the day in day out care of the child. They work thier lives around what they have to do. Most noncustodial parents(dads) might have them a couple of days a month, they can do what they want when they want, and that's usually when another baby gets made. I'm not saying all dads are like that but sadly it is the majority.
HELLBILLY

Caruthersville, MO

#38 Dec 28, 2008
Blah wrote:
Does anyone know if once you are married and have a child (in that marriage) would it lower the amount of child support you are paying from a previous relationship??
I am currently paying ALOT of child support for my first kid. His mother and I were not ever married. I am now remarried and have just found out we are expecting a child. Wouldn't that drop the amount I am paying to my son's mother- since I will be supporting two kids and a wife now. I was told it would drop it if I went back to court or my lawyers and told them that I was expecting another child. My friend told me to handle it the same way I would if my son's mother got a new job with a high pay rate, they would just refigure the amount I'm paying?
Does anyone have any information on this?
JUST KNOCK HER OFF , MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A SUICIDE, THEN YOU'LL GET YOU'RE KID AND WON'T PAY THE CHILD SUPPORT WORKS EVERYTIME, WELL, ALMOST
concerned

Saint Louis, MO

#39 Jan 9, 2009
Here is your answer, if she takes you back to court to raise your child support then your new child(ren) will come into play and you will get credit for them. If you request that your child support be lowered and ask that it be refigured they will not give you credit for your child because because they don't want people to have children to get their child support lowered. It's a woman's system and it's messed up. Basically she has to request more money and then you may get a break.
Justice

United States

#40 Jan 19, 2009
I think your crazy for even considering having your payment lowered. It's not your sons mothers fault that you are married and expecting, she has nothing to do with your new life. Be a man and handel you business get a second job or work over time taking care of your child is a part of life don't try to take away from him due to your decissions.
guest

Caruthersville, MO

#41 Jan 19, 2009
uh oh

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