Random Drug Testing for SC Teachers

Random Drug Testing for SC Teachers

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Concerned Parent

Wilmington, NC

#1 Apr 13, 2011
On 2-14-2011 the Sixth Circuit Court ruled that as the current drug testing policy is written, is is unconstitutional to allow drug testing for SC teachers. See SCEA vs Smith County Board of Education. This suit was brought about by a small minority of SC teachers. Many jobs that require a CDL, firemen, police and other " safety sensitive " jobs mandate drug testing. I think the care and safety of our children that we entrust daily to these teachers, far outweigh the right of the teachers. My question is; what do these teachers has to hide, and it is not all SC teachers, it is a very, very small minority of them that initiated this suit against the SC BOE. Even the court gave provisions providing these searches would be constitutional, but the current policy would have to be amended. I say the BOE get their attorney busy and rewrite the policy to conform with Federal court rulings. If a teacher test positive for a preccription drug, a Medical Review Officer will review the tests to determine what the drug is and if they have a legal prescription for it, so a " false positive " is no valid issue. Random drug testing is legal for student athletes; do we hold our students to a higher standard that the teachers?
datthugdayron

Hollywood, AL

#2 Apr 13, 2011
Concerned Parent wrote:
On 2-14-2011 the Sixth Circuit Court ruled that as the current drug testing policy is written, is is unconstitutional to allow drug testing for SC teachers. See SCEA vs Smith County Board of Education. This suit was brought about by a small minority of SC teachers. Many jobs that require a CDL, firemen, police and other " safety sensitive " jobs mandate drug testing. I think the care and safety of our children that we entrust daily to these teachers, far outweigh the right of the teachers. My question is; what do these teachers has to hide, and it is not all SC teachers, it is a very, very small minority of them that initiated this suit against the SC BOE. Even the court gave provisions providing these searches would be constitutional, but the current policy would have to be amended. I say the BOE get their attorney busy and rewrite the policy to conform with Federal court rulings. If a teacher test positive for a preccription drug, a Medical Review Officer will review the tests to determine what the drug is and if they have a legal prescription for it, so a " false positive " is no valid issue. Random drug testing is legal for student athletes; do we hold our students to a higher standard that the teachers?
I think ALL drug testing should be illeagle cuz what u do to your body no body gotdam buisness
prez

Clarksville, TN

#3 Apr 13, 2011
TEST THE ENTIRE STUDRNT BODY, THE CUSTOADIANS, ALL THE BUS DRIVERS, TEACHERS AND PRINCIPLE AND STUDENTS PARENTS.
trustno1

Franklin, KY

#4 Apr 13, 2011
They do not test athletes in Smith County Schools. They need players. They also test teachers prior to employment, if they have documented suspicion , and they test if teachers are in an accident at school.
former owl

Memphis, TN

#5 Apr 13, 2011
There is ABSOLUTELY no reason to stop the random testing. I agree; rewrite the policy. I am subject to random drug testing and have no problem with it.
Y DO I CARE WHAT U THINK

Mount Juliet, TN

#6 Apr 13, 2011
Concerned Parent wrote:
On 2-14-2011 the Sixth Circuit Court ruled that as the current drug testing policy is written, is is unconstitutional to allow drug testing for SC teachers. See SCEA vs Smith County Board of Education. This suit was brought about by a small minority of SC teachers. Many jobs that require a CDL, firemen, police and other " safety sensitive " jobs mandate drug testing. I think the care and safety of our children that we entrust daily to these teachers, far outweigh the right of the teachers. My question is; what do these teachers has to hide, and it is not all SC teachers, it is a very, very small minority of them that initiated this suit against the SC BOE. Even the court gave provisions providing these searches would be constitutional, but the current policy would have to be amended. I say the BOE get their attorney busy and rewrite the policy to conform with Federal court rulings. If a teacher test positive for a preccription drug, a Medical Review Officer will review the tests to determine what the drug is and if they have a legal prescription for it, so a " false positive " is no valid issue. Random drug testing is legal for student athletes; do we hold our students to a higher standard that the teachers?
this is so true! our children are in their care all day..how do we know their not high on something while their supposed to be teaching our youth? i guess this could explain why some kids are being left behind in class because their teachers are busy worrying about how their gonna pass a drug test!!!
Concerned Parent

Dana, NC

#7 Apr 14, 2011
Contact your local school board members and tell them what you want. You can obtain their names from the Board of Education.
Voter

Carthage, TN

#8 Apr 14, 2011
Concerned Parent wrote:
On 2-14-2011 the Sixth Circuit Court ruled that as the current drug testing policy is written, is is unconstitutional to allow drug testing for SC teachers. See SCEA vs Smith County Board of Education. This suit was brought about by a small minority of SC teachers. Many jobs that require a CDL, firemen, police and other " safety sensitive " jobs mandate drug testing. I think the care and safety of our children that we entrust daily to these teachers, far outweigh the right of the teachers. My question is; what do these teachers has to hide, and it is not all SC teachers, it is a very, very small minority of them that initiated this suit against the SC BOE. Even the court gave provisions providing these searches would be constitutional, but the current policy would have to be amended. I say the BOE get their attorney busy and rewrite the policy to conform with Federal court rulings. If a teacher test positive for a preccription drug, a Medical Review Officer will review the tests to determine what the drug is and if they have a legal prescription for it, so a " false positive " is no valid issue. Random drug testing is legal for student athletes; do we hold our students to a higher standard that the teachers?
I am very displeased, disappointed and concerned about our current school board. I feel it is time to pay attention to the issues in our school system and get the chip off our shoulders for whatever particular person certain members only serve to go against regardless of the issue.
real justice

Monticello, FL

#9 Apr 14, 2011
I say everyone should be randomly tested and charged appropriately when failed. Doctors nurses lawyers judges policemen teachers ain't no better than trk drivers or athletes
Margaret

Calhoun, LA

#10 Apr 14, 2011
real justice wrote:
I say everyone should be randomly tested and charged appropriately when failed. Doctors nurses lawyers judges policemen teachers ain't no better than trk drivers or athletes
I totally agree that drug testing should be mandatory upon hiring and after hiring is done randoms should alays be done --- This should be for every postion in this county-
No exceptions --- Why would someone not want to be tested if they are not doing drugs - makes no sense --- If you are on medication all you have to do is show the reps what you take --- very simple
Concerned Parent

United States

#11 Apr 14, 2011
I think the names of the teachers that filed the suit be made public to allow each individual that feels " unsafe " about that teacher to have their child put into another class. As you said, if they are not guilty of anything, why be afraid of a test?
Random

Cookeville, TN

#12 Apr 14, 2011
I understand that this topic is going to be on the agenda for the Tuesday, April 19th meeting of the school board. A spokesperson and a lot of concerned parents are going to ask the board to reconsider and put random testing back in place for ALL employees and board members. I think everyone that wants it in place should contact the board members and then show up to sit in on the meeting. These are our kids, our schools and we have a right to be represented. I dont know of a problem with any teacher, but the policy NEEDS to be there for the safety of the kids as well as the employees.
Joe

Brush Creek, TN

#13 Apr 14, 2011
Does no one not realize that Smith Co is the ONLY school system in the state that had random testing? That tells you how far behind the norm we are. And the names were made public. You should have read the paper.
ricki lake

Memphis, TN

#14 Apr 14, 2011
Joe wrote:
Does no one not realize that Smith Co is the ONLY school system in the state that had random testing? That tells you how far behind the norm we are. And the names were made public. You should have read the paper.
Do you always talk out of your butt?I have taught in Smith Co. And adjoining counties and Smith is the only one that doesn't with Sumner Co been doing it for at least 10 yrs so Joe maybe you aught to do some research before you go to flapping your gums.
random joe

Brush Creek, TN

#15 Apr 14, 2011
yes they should be randomly tested, i hope alot show up at th meeting.
citizen

Portland, TN

#16 Apr 14, 2011
SMith COunty is the only county/district in the state of TN that randomly tests their employees. ALL others do pre-employment, post accident and suspicion. The above post must be someone who works at the supt. office because it is widely known that the agenda is not made public until the day before the meeting. If you think a teacher/employee has a problem then report it to the principal and let him investigate. It seems like a lot of money that could be spent on the children of Smith COunty.
Random

Cookeville, TN

#17 Apr 15, 2011
citizen wrote:
SMith COunty is the only county/district in the state of TN that randomly tests their employees. ALL others do pre-employment, post accident and suspicion. The above post must be someone who works at the supt. office because it is widely known that the agenda is not made public until the day before the meeting. If you think a teacher/employee has a problem then report it to the principal and let him investigate. It seems like a lot of money that could be spent on the children of Smith COunty.
I do not work there and was not trying to make it seem that way. I just said that "I understood" that it was going to be on the agenda. I understand this because in conversations I have been told that they were seeking to have it on the agenda, nothing more. Besides, why does it matter where anyone works, we still have a right to an opinion, same as you. Thanks.
sad

Scottsville, KY

#18 Apr 15, 2011
ricki lake wrote:
<quoted text>Do you always talk out of your butt?I have taught in Smith Co. And adjoining counties and Smith is the only one that doesn't with Sumner Co been doing it for at least 10 yrs so Joe maybe you aught to do some research before you go to flapping your gums.
You are so very wrong, and you also have trouble formulating sentences.
sad

Scottsville, KY

#19 Apr 15, 2011
Random wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not work there and was not trying to make it seem that way. I just said that "I understood" that it was going to be on the agenda. I understand this because in conversations I have been told that they were seeking to have it on the agenda, nothing more. Besides, why does it matter where anyone works, we still have a right to an opinion, same as you. Thanks.
Yes they do, and the school boards vote of 5/3 was that the policy would not include random testing. I really feel that was the opinion of the board. What I think is this: someone has trouble not getting their way!!! Could this someone have the last name Lewis?
topper

United States

#20 Apr 15, 2011
Perhaps it was not the real opinion of the board, there always politics involved. One of the five votes just happened to be the husband of one of the teachers that file the suit. Can you say NEPOTISM? He should have excused himself from the vote and any conversation related to it.

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