Rails-to-trails plans again considered

May 2, 2010 Full story: Watertown Daily Times 25

Lewis County legislators are slated to once again consider a long-discussed plan to convert 31.4 miles of unused rail lines to recreational trails.

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former student

Massena, NY

#1 May 2, 2010
Here goes Rick Lucas and his band of outlaws. How long do you think the walking trail in Lowville will stat that way? Lucas will push for this but abstain when it comes time for a vote. Put the time, effort and money into attracting industry or retail that will create more jobs than this can ever do.
Do they ever quit

Syracuse, NY

#2 May 2, 2010
Today's WTD covered the subject with author Steve Virkler and his bestis pal Rick Lucas. I guess the board has no other talker. In the article Lucas is quoted as having money being reviewed by Shummer. When Shummer is contacted and told what's going on and the hundreds of people against this, the plan will be DONE. Lucas does not even have the votes to carry from his own group.

Further, the tax payers of the village of Lowville have had thousands of dollars wasted on research time by it's great leader eric virkler. For three years that is all he worried about. Even to the point of insoboardination of his own village board.

Now he is wasting county tax payers money to persue this idea. Why are they so dead set on doing this project? You then even have a former DA who climbs into a legislator's car to push the issue. Same old Same old.

Steve Virkler mentioned in his article of the many
"detractors of this" To bad he failed to ask any of them what they felt. This is typical Virkler reporting.

Why not call it the Steve and Rick show.
RECUSE

Constableville, NY

#3 May 2, 2010
Both Jack Bush and Rick Lucas should recuse themselves. Jack because of this IDA connection with the railroad and Rick because his business depends of the ATVs and Sonowsleds.

This could not be clearer.
Yea right

Constableville, NY

#4 May 2, 2010
If jack and rick recuse themselves, they will be down to two votes!!!! Not that it matters but you are right, they should but they will not.

Lucas has been told in the past, to recuse himself and he has not.
sliver

Glenfield, NY

#5 May 2, 2010
Even if grant money pays for this and ATV's and sleds never get to use it, I have one question that nobody has addressed. Who is going to pay to maintain and repair it? You got it, the taxpayers!
JohnnyCash

Keeseville, NY

#6 May 2, 2010
Ode To Rick Lucas..to the tune of"I Walk the Line"

The taste of trails are sweet

When beers and wheelers meet.

We need some riding trails

and so I bought the line.

I paid,paid,paid with the taxpayers money,

I taxed, taxed, taxed and it ain't funny,

We need to buy that railroad line,

We need to buy that railroad line.
RECUSE

Constableville, NY

#7 May 3, 2010
have gone to the courthouse and Doug Hanno Staff proved to me that the IDA and the railroad are tightly connected. Thanks to Doug and his staff for the assistance. There is no way Jack Bush should not vote on the trail. There is a BIG CONFLICT. If he votes either way he needs to be reported to the state. Does anyone know who to report him to incase he votes?
Jolly Jim

Constableville, NY

#8 May 3, 2010
Ethically Mr. Bush must recuse himself from the vote on the trail based on his relationship with the rail company being the IDA Chairman. I too reviewed the court house records.

I called Senator Schumer office and they don't know anything of a $500,000 grant to Lewis County for a trail in this years appropriations. I am also told a grant was turn down by an agency (BRAC). I never heard of this agency.

This whole deal needs to be investigated before a final decision is made. There are too many open ended assumptions.

This sounds like Mr. Bush is pushing the through for some reason.
Jolly Jim

Syracuse, NY

#9 May 4, 2010
There are few comments today on the trail. Must be Mr. Youngs is out pressuring legislators to vote yes for the trail.

Since: Apr 09

Henderson

#10 May 4, 2010
Anyone who still thinks these trails(walking trails) will turn into ATV trails is naive. The way it is written, they would have to change the law to allow ATV's on the trails. Anyone saying different is spreading false rumors and hearsay. Check the facts!!
JohnnyCash

Caroga Lake, NY

#11 May 4, 2010
changing the law only takes a public hearing and six votes. maybe you're naive.
JohnnyCash

Caroga Lake, NY

#12 May 4, 2010
further, they admit it's for ATVs outside of town. since no local law is yet involved, only a resolutuion, only a vote to rescind the resolution would be necessary. snowmobiles are another can of worms and could be there, too. henry, you are naive if you think Lucas is pushing this hard only for a walk trail.

Since: Apr 09

Henderson

#13 May 4, 2010
Well, I just do not dabble in speculation or rumor. I know the facts. On paper, right now, there is no chance of the in town trail becoming an ATV trail. Any talk/type of the contrary is rumor, hearsay or speculation.
JohnnyCash

Caroga Lake, NY

#14 May 4, 2010
wrong-o..you refuse to dabble in reality.
kripes

United States

#15 May 5, 2010
don't anybody find it disturbing that the state can't afford to keep parks open, yet L.C. want to invest over million on trail? wonder if legislators have any info on todays economic crisis in the whole state/country
happy taxpayer

Syracuse, NY

#16 May 5, 2010
I would like to thank the 6 legislators, that they listen to the taxpayers and shot this down, maybe the proposal at one time has good merits but the time is not now, we are in such bad shape, we need to get conservative and stop spending money we do not have,weather if its the county, state or federal gov. STOP SPENDING, we the taxpayers cannot afford it anymore.............
Ezro

Cortland, NY

#17 May 5, 2010
My belief in miracles has been reinforced. The Lewis County legislature has grown a backbone. Ain't it wonderful?
yeah

Remsen, NY

#18 May 5, 2010
Glad they shot it down.

Over a mil, though?- makes one wonder if some contractor(s) was/were looking to get their palms greased over that potential boondoggle. Probably not,.... but maybe.
kripes

United States

#19 May 6, 2010
I too am pleased that 6 legislators have listened to the citizens and become independent thinkers. I agree with you Ezro
Fedup

United States

#20 May 15, 2010
It really sounds like the usual childlike way our local elected officials operate(they anly care about a selected few). I'm thinking of trying out Arizona atleast their elected officials are doing something right.

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