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misticosombrero

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#41
Mar 10, 2013
 
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Teachers in Ga. are forbidden from creating a union. There is no right to collectively bargain. Please quit listening to Faux News.
NEA and other State Educational Unions DO have offices in the state of Georgia. There is NO restriction from georgia Teachers joining and being memebers of the NEA. Those union fees should be going directly to our state's educational system.
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#42
Mar 11, 2013
 
misticosombrero wrote:
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NEA and other State Educational Unions DO have offices in the state of Georgia. There is NO restriction from georgia Teachers joining and being memebers of the NEA. Those union fees should be going directly to our state's educational system.
Are you joking? So you're reasoning is that teachers should not be allowed to join organizations because those fees should be going to local education to pay teachers more?
Scrumpty

Cartersville, GA

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#43
Mar 11, 2013
 
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GA is a "right to work ": http://jobsearchtech.about.com/gi/dynamic/off...
Teachers are not required to have any pay deducted to go to the NEA. However teachers may join PAGE or GAE. These organizations may contribute to national organizations but the teachers can opt out of these organizations. You can call any district BOE and sopeak to human resources if you want more proof. Other than special education and some grant money requirements, all control of public schools a LOCAL. So, check yourself to see what political leanings the board and superintendents have in your local district. The bogeyman is not the President (at least not in this case) nor the teacher unions , national or not.
Obviously the only solution is to move. According to the following 2 sources. the AVERAGE teacher in America makes $54,000.00/ year. They work an AVERAGE of 1097 hours per year. That comes out to an AVERAGE of $49.22/ hour.

I now make more than that myself and teaching is a difficult job. But I've had jobs in my life where I made one HELL of a lot less than $49.00/ hour.

Just imagine no Dept of Education or teacher unions ANYWHERE

http://www.indeed.com/salary/q-Teacher-l-Unit...

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2011/06/25/num...

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#44
Mar 11, 2013
 
Still misunderstanding your stance. Are you saying teachers make too much money and the dissolution of all teacher unions will benefit GA by providing more money for teachers?
Scrumpty

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Mar 11, 2013
 

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Still misunderstanding your stance. Are you saying teachers make too much money and the dissolution of all teacher unions will benefit GA by providing more money for teachers?
The AVERAGE teacher makes $54,000.00 per year for working an AVERAGE of 22 hours per week. Are some teachers in some areas underpaid? Sure they are. Is there WAY too much bureaucracy involved in public education in this country? Sure there is.

The AVERAGE public school in Georgia receives just under $10,000.00 PER STUDENT, PER YEAR. EVERY YEAR. How is all of that money spent? They don't have a mortgage to pay. The school is paid from OTHER taxes and is paid for the day it opens. Cut out the tremendous waste and use the difference to pay teachers more. The money is there, in my opinion, it is not being properly allocated

Or the state could just give it back to the tax payers from whom it came.

Oh yeah that's going to fly.
Math

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#46
Mar 11, 2013
 
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The AVERAGE teacher makes $54,000.00 per year for working an AVERAGE of 22 hours per week. Are some teachers in some areas underpaid? Sure they are. Is there WAY too much bureaucracy involved in public education in this country? Sure there is.
The AVERAGE public school in Georgia receives just under $10,000.00 PER STUDENT, PER YEAR. EVERY YEAR. How is all of that money spent? They don't have a mortgage to pay. The school is paid from OTHER taxes and is paid for the day it opens. Cut out the tremendous waste and use the difference to pay teachers more. The money is there, in my opinion, it is not being properly allocated
Or the state could just give it back to the tax payers from whom it came.
Oh yeah that's going to fly.
teachers work 22 hours a week on average? Not EVEN close. I teach and I'm there over 10 hours a day and thats just the time we are required to be there. We only go for days a week and we do more than 40 hours a week.
Scrumpty

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#47
Mar 11, 2013
 
Math wrote:
<quoted text> teachers work 22 hours a week on average? Not EVEN close. I teach and I'm there over 10 hours a day and thats just the time we are required to be there. We only go for days a week and we do more than 40 hours a week.
Take it up with the Wall Street Journal.

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2011/06/25/num ...

“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

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#48
Mar 11, 2013
 
Brewsternews wrote:
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So what do you want? Teaching to be an entry level job requiring only a high school diploma? These folks have multiple degrees which cost them and they have many years experience and should be compensated properly. The reason for the good salaries is not only to compensate for education and skill but to attract high quality individuals to compete for these jobs. I want the best people working with Bartow County students. How about you?
Nope, but I am sick and tired of hearing teachers bitch and moan about how little they are paid. As my examples above show, they make a damn good salary. Where else can a librarian make over $40 an hour?

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#49
Mar 11, 2013
 
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Obviously the only solution is to move. According to the following 2 sources. the AVERAGE teacher in America makes $54,000.00/ year. They work an AVERAGE of 1097 hours per year. That comes out to an AVERAGE of $49.22/ hour.
I now make more than that myself and teaching is a difficult job. But I've had jobs in my life where I made one HELL of a lot less than $49.00/ hour.
Just imagine no Dept of Education or teacher unions ANYWHERE
http://www.indeed.com/salary/q-Teacher-l-Unit...
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2011/06/25/num...
Grat point, yet some of these teachers would have you believe they have to eat pork and beans just to get by.

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#50
Mar 11, 2013
 
Great.
Scrumpty

Cartersville, GA

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#51
Mar 11, 2013
 
Math wrote:
<quoted text> teachers work 22 hours a week on average? Not EVEN close. I teach and I'm there over 10 hours a day and thats just the time we are required to be there. We only go for days a week and we do more than 40 hours a week.
It just occurred to me. You're a math teacher and you don't understand the definition of the word "AVERAGE"?? If so that explains A LOT.

How many weekdays a year do you have off Skippy? The average person in the PRIVATE SECTOR works twice as many hours per year than do teachers. I work more than that.
funny

Cartersville, GA

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#52
Mar 11, 2013
 
Math wrote:
<quoted text> teachers work 22 hours a week on average? Not EVEN close. I teach and I'm there over 10 hours a day and thats just the time we are required to be there. We only go for days a week and we do more than 40 hours a week.
You are there so many hours because you spend all that extra time putting that stupid pinterest cutsie crap all over the walls so it'll look pretty. Teach the basics and leave the Martha Stewart crap off. If you are teaching then you have enough time. If you can't teach.. and I mean teach, grade papers, etc, and not waste time on fru fru crap, in the time allowed, then you are an idiot and don't need to be a teacher.
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Cartersville, GA

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#53
Mar 11, 2013
 
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That comes out to an AVERAGE of $49.22/ hour.
I now make more than that myself
You are a damn liar.
Scrumpty

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Mar 11, 2013
 
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You are a damn liar.
You know that how? I know what I make and I know what I pay in taxes every year. I'm guessing I pay more in taxes than you make

Go back to the keep a word drop a word post where you belong.
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Cartersville, GA

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#55
Mar 11, 2013
 
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You know that how? I know what I make and I know what I pay in taxes every year. I'm guessing I pay more in taxes than you make
Go back to the keep a word drop a word post where you belong.
I repeat.. you are a liar and a braggart. Ask anybody on here who gives a F how much you make. Go ahead, liar.
Scrumpty

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Mar 11, 2013
 
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I repeat.. you are a liar and a braggart. Ask anybody on here who gives a F how much you make. Go ahead, liar.
Go back to the keep a word drop a word post where you belong. You're clearly in WAY over your head in this discussion.
Teacher

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#57
Mar 22, 2013
 
Scrumty wrote:
There is no need to furlough one single teacher. There is no need to cut teacher pay. In fact EXCELLENT teachers ought to be paid much more than they currently are.
How is this achieved?
Abolish every local, state and federal teachers union in this country and take the hundreds of million of dollars PER YEAR that are wasted paying these political tools and shift the money to finding, training and compensating the best possible men and women in America to educate our countries children
While your at it abolish the Dept of "Edgu-ma-k-shun" in DC as well.
Here endeth the lesson
FYI-There are no teacher unions, administrative unions, or staff unions in the State of GA. You can join GAE or PAGE at your own expense for liability insurance purposes if you choose to do that. BUT again there are no educational unions in the State of GA.
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#58
Mar 22, 2013
 
funny wrote:
<quoted text>You are there so many hours because you spend all that extra time putting that stupid pinterest cutsie crap all over the walls so it'll look pretty. Teach the basics and leave the Martha Stewart crap off. If you are teaching then you have enough time. If you can't teach.. and I mean teach, grade papers, etc, and not waste time on fru fru crap, in the time allowed, then you are an idiot and don't need to be a teacher.
No kidding - go back to the primitive one room classroom
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I want to be a teacher I want to be off for summer and spring break and christmas break and winter break. It aint all you thought it was is it little teachers.

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I want to be a teacher I want to be off for summer and spring break and christmas break and winter break. It aint all you thought it was is it little teachers.
But wait for it, the teachers will tell you how they are up till 1am grading papers and never get a moments rest. It is the biggest racket going.

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