Scrumpty

Cartersville, GA

#21 Mar 8, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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What's your problem, it's nice when someone comes on here with facts for a change, rather than just propaganda.
I'm not looking for anything you moron. Okay and say what (the same douche) are mental midgets. I find it amusing at how brain dead he is.
okay

Cartersville, GA

#22 Mar 8, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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What's your problem, it's nice when someone comes on here with facts for a change, rather than just propaganda.
That comment had nothing to do with the facts...

He's referring to OCD dummy continually commenting about still searching for some comment. Of course you have to stick your know it all mouth into it, again, not knowing what the comment was about. Once again, you show your ignorance.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#23 Mar 8, 2013
okay wrote:
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That comment had nothing to do with the facts...
He's referring to OCD dummy continually commenting about still searching for some comment. Of course you have to stick your know it all mouth into it, again, not knowing what the comment was about. Once again, you show your ignorance.
Then maybe he needs to work on clarity. Oh, speaking of sticking yourself into it - what exactly does my comment have to do with you? Don't know (or care) what your issue with me is, but why don't you get a life.
411 and 41

Manchester, GA

#24 Mar 8, 2013
Hey Scrumpty- relax. Chill out. You're so angry!

“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta

#25 Mar 8, 2013
http://www.open.georgia.gov/sta/search.aud
Boyd Crowder wrote:
<quoted text>Word is the state going to cut education even more. All local elected officials want a raise. They deserve it. How can they survive on 100k a year? If teachers continue the furloughs there should be enough in the budget to give the well deserved raises to our local elected officials. Teachers make too much as it is. It's crazy to pay a college graduate 35,000 a year to teach our children when our hard working elected officials are working 20-30 hours a week for 110,000-120,000 K per year!
Really Boyd?

Go to the Bartow board of education on the site I linked and you will find gems like this.

Lena Adams, Librarian in the Bartow system, annual pay $72,000 a year. Thats more than $36 and hour and remember most of these poor teachers only work 190 days a year.

“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta

#26 Mar 8, 2013
http://www.open.georgia.gov/sta/search.aud

Or Steve Adams Assistant Principal pulling in $94,113.26 a year. Oh those poor, broke teachers.
Scrumpty

Cartersville, GA

#27 Mar 9, 2013
MSO4 wrote:
http://www.open.georgia.gov/st a/search.aud
Or Steve Adams Assistant Principal pulling in $94,113.26 a year. Oh those poor, broke teachers.
I believe his comments were made tongue in cheek.
okay

Cartersville, GA

#28 Mar 9, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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Then maybe he needs to work on clarity. Oh, speaking of sticking yourself into it - what exactly does my comment have to do with you? Don't know (or care) what your issue with me is, but why don't you get a life.
Yeah right

Once again, it must be the other person that's wrong, it's never you. Ever. rolling eyes

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#29 Mar 9, 2013
okay wrote:
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Yeah right
Once again, it must be the other person that's wrong, it's never you. Ever. rolling eyes
And I repeat, get a life.

“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta

#30 Mar 9, 2013
Scrumpty wrote:
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I believe his comments were made tongue in cheek.
I hope so because this poor teacher thing is such a myth. There is not a job around that gives that much time off and benefits as does teaching.
okay

Cartersville, GA

#31 Mar 10, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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And I repeat, get a life.
It's so easy to manipulate you.!ike teaching a dog to speak. Speak, simple minded. Speak.
Brewsternews

Cartersville, GA

#32 Mar 10, 2013
MSO4 wrote:
<quoted text>I hope so because this poor teacher thing is such a myth. There is not a job around that gives that much time off and benefits as does teaching.
So what do you want? Teaching to be an entry level job requiring only a high school diploma? These folks have multiple degrees which cost them and they have many years experience and should be compensated properly. The reason for the good salaries is not only to compensate for education and skill but to attract high quality individuals to compete for these jobs. I want the best people working with Bartow County students. How about you?
Brewsternews

Cartersville, GA

#33 Mar 10, 2013
MSO4 wrote:
http://www.open.georgia.gov/st a/search.aud
Or Steve Adams Assistant Principal pulling in $94,113.26 a year. Oh those poor, broke teachers.
And by the way, why don't you look at the majority of CLASSROOM TEACHERS' salaries instead of administrators and media specialists if you are looking to bash educators' pay. Those two individuals which you so shamelessly decided to call out hold the only of each of those positions at that school. Teachers get paid more when they increase their education level. How about that , encouraging educators to get educated.
Scrumpty

Cartersville, GA

#34 Mar 10, 2013
Brewsternews wrote:
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And by the way, why don't you look at the majority of CLASSROOM TEACHERS' salaries instead of administrators and media specialists if you are looking to bash educators' pay. Those two individuals which you so shamelessly decided to call out hold the only of each of those positions at that school. Teachers get paid more when they increase their education level. How about that , encouraging educators to get educated.
How about eliminating teacher unions, at every level, accross the country and allow teachers to keep more of the pay they earn? Instead it goes to funding political candidates who, often times, are at odds with what's best for America's children.
Scrumpty

Cartersville, GA

#35 Mar 10, 2013
okay wrote:
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Yeah right
Once again, it must be the other person that's wrong, it's never you. Ever. rolling eyes
Aggie23 wrote:
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And I repeat, get a life.
If the troll had a life he wouldn't have multiple nicknames on here constantly posting the same nonsense. Alas he doesn't. so he does.
Brewsternews

Cartersville, GA

#36 Mar 10, 2013
Scrumpty wrote:
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How about eliminating teacher unions, at every level, accross the country and allow teachers to keep more of the pay they earn? Instead it goes to funding political candidates who, often times, are at odds with what's best for America's children.
Fine. Why not? Unions for most working class folks have been neutered so why not teachers? How does that help Georgia teachers?
Henry

Rome, GA

#37 Mar 10, 2013
Brewsternews wrote:
<quoted text>So what do you want? Teaching to be an entry level job requiring only a high school diploma? These folks have multiple degrees which cost them and they have many years experience and should be compensated properly. The reason for the good salaries is not only to compensate for education and skill but to attract high quality individuals to compete for these jobs. I want the best people working with Bartow County students. How about you?
I am amazed at how many whine about furloughs and how difficult it will be to pay bills - quit buying designer purses
Scrumpty

Cartersville, GA

#38 Mar 10, 2013
Brewsternews wrote:
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Fine. Why not? Unions for most working class folks have been neutered so why not teachers? How does that help Georgia teachers?
So just because Georgia has no STATE teacher union that makes them immune from paying dues to all of the national unions?

Please provide me with that link. I'd like to see it. I'm not being facetious I would really be surprised if they did not give up some pay to any of the many others

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#39 Mar 10, 2013
Scrumpty wrote:
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So just because Georgia has no STATE teacher union that makes them immune from paying dues to all of the national unions?
Please provide me with that link. I'd like to see it. I'm not being facetious I would really be surprised if they did not give up some pay to any of the many others
I stand to be corrected, but I don't think Georgia teachers HAVE to belong to a national union (NEA) though many do. But the Professional Assoc of Georgia Educators actually has more members and is an independent group - not a union. But your point about unions in general is spot on, IMO. They protect the incompetent and cost school districts many thousands of dollars in legal fees when a school actually tries to fire a teacher.(just look at the "rubber rooms" in New York) They support the heavy bureaucracy which keeps money from going to good teachers and to the classroom. The Dept of Education was and is a huge mistake and needs to be abolished. Local control is the key to improving our schools. Cut the bureaucracy and pay good teachers enough so that the field is attractive to our best and brightest who might love to teach but have to look at the bottom line of supporting their families and so either don't go into education or leave it. Nothing is a quick fix, but who can really argue that the system as is isn't broken and needs SOMETHING done. It isn't hard to argue that teaching is one of the most important jobs around, but raising taxes isn't the answer, because the "in the trenches" teachers never see it in their paychecks.

(and Scrumpty, by the way, thanks)
Brewsternews

Cartersville, GA

#40 Mar 10, 2013
Scrumpty wrote:
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So just because Georgia has no STATE teacher union that makes them immune from paying dues to all of the national unions?
Please provide me with that link. I'd like to see it. I'm not being facetious I would really be surprised if they did not give up some pay to any of the many others
GA is a "right to work ": http://jobsearchtech.about.com/gi/dynamic/off...

Teachers are not required to have any pay deducted to go to the NEA. However teachers may join PAGE or GAE. These organizations may contribute to national organizations but the teachers can opt out of these organizations. You can call any district BOE and sopeak to human resources if you want more proof. Other than special education and some grant money requirements, all control of public schools a LOCAL. So, check yourself to see what political leanings the board and superintendents have in your local district. The bogeyman is not the President (at least not in this case) nor the teacher unions , national or not.

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