OMTE

Ford City, PA

#17622 Jul 8, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
It's OK with me to increase the national debt $30 Billion to put more guards on the border - if we throw those who employee illegals in prison.
The former will make it harder for Pedro to cross the Rio Grande, or Petr from crossing in from Canada; the latter will make them not want to bother.
Just sayin....
That's what I was sayin too. We have some of the toughest immigration laws in the country, in Ga. They are not enforced though. Most business' around here employ illegal criminal immigrants and local law enforcement turns a blind eye. All the new laws in the world will useless, if they're not enforced. 40% of illegal immigrants didn't cross the border illegally. They came here on a visa, overstayed their visa, and disappeared. While 5000 I.C.E. agents total nationwide are given the task to roundup all illegal immigrants once past our borders. This bill in the house calls for no more I.C.E. agents and they are the only ones that actually ENFORCE our immigration laws. This bill in the House should not even be addressed until more I.C.E. agents are in it. Immigration is not the main reason Border Security is must. National Security is the #1 reason we should have a secure border. We travel space. Securing a border in 6 months should be walk in the park. Ya think?

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17624 Jul 8, 2013
OMTE wrote:
This was a pretty good informative video clip. That pretty much explains the ups and downs of the amnesty bill that Reagan signed into law in '86.
The same moron Chuck Schumer had a hand in that failed attempt to stop illegal immigration, as well as, being an author of this amnesty bill that's currently in the House now. Why is he even allowed to be apart of anything to do with immigration. He's a dummy. He is the reason the number of illegal criminal aliens have more than tripled since '86. Duh??? The american people shouldn't allow the government to make the same empty promises as they did last time. That should prove themselves to the american people, that they can secure our border and enforce the laws that are already in effect. Then talk about immigration reform. http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/Politics/...
Amen

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17626 Jul 8, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
CONFLICT IN THE BALKANS: THE OVERVIEW; NATO AUTHORIZES BOMB STRIKES; PRIMAKOV, IN AIR, SKIPS U.S. VISIT
By JANE PERLEZ
Published: March 24, 1999
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/03/24/world/confl...
NATO today authorized air strikes against Serbia as President Clinton declared that force was necessary to halt the aggression by Serbs against ethnic Albanians in Kosovo.
The air campaign, using primarily American aircraft and cruise missiles, is poised to begin over southern Serbia and targets in Kosovo under cover of night Wednesday, NATO officials said.
It would come almost a year after the conflict in Kosovo began and more than six months after NATO, backed by the Clinton Administration, first threatened the use of force.
...More than 40 members of Congress met with President Clinton at the White House this morning, and after hearing his arguments for intervention, rallied around him. The Senate voted tonight 58 to 41 in support of a one-sentence resolution authorizing President Clinton to carry out bombing and missile attacks.
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Both Iraq and Afghanistan fall under this Congressional Resolution which has not been repealed...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_fo...
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Two different opinons on the need for authorization in Libya...
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2011-06-15...
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/21/opinion/21A...
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Can you point to where US troops are involved inany action in Syria.
Congress approves anything that the elite wants. They do not have the guts to actually declare war. We have and we are now actively sending the so called Syrian Rebels weapons. We know that much is a fact. I have a good hunch that there are some special forces along with CIA helping them. Don't you? Do I have secret documents showing all of this? No. It is the normal military plan that is used over and over though.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#17628 Jul 8, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Congress approves anything that the elite wants. They do not have the guts to actually declare war. We have and we are now actively sending the so called Syrian Rebels weapons.
Course you claimed something entirely different...

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
It is odd that we were at war in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, and are involved in Afghanistan and Syria all without the consent of Congress.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17630 Jul 8, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
No, Al-Qaeda are NOT similar to the Viet Cong...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_Cong
The Viet Cong, or National Liberation Front, was a political organization and army in South Vietnam and Cambodia that fought the United States and South Vietnamese governments during the Vietnam War (1959–1975), and emerged on the winning side. It had both guerrilla and regular army units, as well as a network of cadres who organized peasants in the territory it controlled. Many soldiers were recruited in South Vietnam, but others were attached to the People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN), the regular North Vietnamese army. During the war, communists and anti-war spokesmen insisted the Viet Cong was an insurgency indigenous to the South, while the U.S. and South Vietnamese governments portrayed the group as a tool of Hanoi. Although the terminology distinguishes northerners from the southerners, communist forces were under a single command structure set up in 1958.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda
Al-Qaeda is a global militant Islamist organization founded by Osama bin Laden in Peshawar, Pakistan,[19] at some point between August 1988[20] and late 1989,[21] with its origins being traceable to the Soviet War in Afghanistan.[22] It operates as a network comprising both a multinational, stateless army[23] and a radical Sunni Muslim movement calling for global Jihad and a strict interpretation of sharia law.
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"I don't understand why you would use the term alleged terrorist either."
Without investigation and intelligence how do you tell the difference between real terrorists and innocent by-standers.
It would appear that many believe there is such a distinction, how else can drone strikes kill innocent people?
Lady you need to get a life. You were not there and you don't know sh*t.
The Viet Cong wore no uniforms. They were made up mostly from Vietnamese population. Many of the terrorist techniques were being used by the Viet Cong. They wrote the book. Yes, the Viet Cong was a tool of Hanoi, the same as the terrorist are tools of Iran. The V.C. seemed to operate seperate from the NVA in most actions.
Keep reading and posting your hi-brow literature maybe it will impress someone.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17631 Jul 8, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
Course you claimed something entirely different...
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
It is odd that we were at war in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, and are involved in Afghanistan and Syria all without the consent of Congress.
Congress never declared war. I think all Congress does is approve money for these various illegal operations.
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#17633 Jul 8, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Lady you need to get a life. You were not there and you don't know sh*t.
The Viet Cong wore no uniforms. They were made up mostly from Vietnamese population. Many of the terrorist techniques were being used by the Viet Cong. They wrote the book. Yes, the Viet Cong was a tool of Hanoi, the same as the terrorist are tools of Iran. The V.C. seemed to operate seperate from the NVA in most actions.
Keep reading and posting your hi-brow literature maybe it will impress someone.
Just pointing out your misconceptions, but hey, who can trust history since so few of us were really there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viet_Cong
...It had both guerrilla and regular army units, as well as a network of cadres who organized peasants in the territory it controlled. Many soldiers were recruited in South Vietnam, but others were attached to the People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN), the regular North Vietnamese army.

http://www.pbs.org/battlefieldvietnam/guerril...
...Main force Vietcong units were uniformed, full-time soldiers, and were used to launch large scale offensives over a wide area. Regional forces were also full-time, but operated only within their own districts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_terr...
Oh boy, looks like terrorist techniques have been around for a long time
Oh my

Blairsville, GA

#17634 Jul 8, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
And since you mentioned the source, they are hardly unbiased:
Is this your new standard for ALL source material you post?

As far as your objections are concerned, people can read the report and judge for themselves the meaning of the pie chart. Do I expect this to convince anyone opposed to Obamacare, nope, but so what.
James

Blue Ridge, GA

#17635 Jul 8, 2013
Why is it so hard for people to realize there has to ba a better way of providing some form of health care to uninsured people that truly can't afford it. I'm not saying by any means Obama care, as it is currently written is the perfect solution to our problems. We have been stuck in so many ruts in this country that contine to only cause us to fall behind the rest of the wold in almost every way. We waist enormous sums of money and resources over the years on polices and wars that are fought for reasons we know not to be the reasons we are told. Our war on drugs is a complete failler and by some estimated cost us a total of nearly a trillion dollars a year. Our education system is nearly as bad and our health care system is falling behind the rest of the world as well. I believe if pumped money into education and health the way we have wars and bad government all these years we would still be the greatest country on earth today. How can we get back to the top ? We all have different opinions of what it will take, this is mine
Opinion Poll

Baldwin, GA

#17636 Jul 8, 2013
State your opinion about Obama Care(even though it doesn't count.)

Write your Senators and Representatives(even though they pay no attention.)

Tell your spouse how you feel(even though he/she may tell you to go soak your head.)

Tell your neighbor(even though he/she may slam the door in your face.)

Tell your kids(even though they may call you an old fogy( even if you are only 31.))

And finally tell your Priest/Preacher(even though the Priest will tell you to do 3 Hail Marys, and the Preacher will ask you to repair the bathroom in the men's room.)
Opinion Poll

Baldwin, GA

#17637 Jul 8, 2013
Opinions are only good to make us feel better about ourselves. Self therapy if you like.

I feel good about my opinion on opinions.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#17638 Jul 8, 2013
James wrote:
Why is it so hard for people to realize there has to ba a better way of providing some form of health care to uninsured people that truly can't afford it. I'm not saying by any means Obama care, as it is currently written is the perfect solution to our problems. We have been stuck in so many ruts in this country that contine to only cause us to fall behind the rest of the wold in almost every way. We waist enormous sums of money and resources over the years on polices and wars that are fought for reasons we know not to be the reasons we are told. Our war on drugs is a complete failler and by some estimated cost us a total of nearly a trillion dollars a year. Our education system is nearly as bad and our health care system is falling behind the rest of the world as well. I believe if pumped money into education and health the way we have wars and bad government all these years we would still be the greatest country on earth today. How can we get back to the top ? We all have different opinions of what it will take, this is mine
In regard to healthcare, I don't think anyone would argue with you that our system was far from perfect and that insurance companies could be a bureaucratic minefield. But there were reasonable changes that could have been made that would not have required such a complete transformation (and IMO crippling) of what was still the best healthcare available. Simply allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines in order to increase competition and lower prices would have been huge. Torte reform to lessen the "defensive medicine" that doctors - especially emergency room doctors- practice would also be huge. No one is advocating for those truly harmed by negligent physicians to not be able to sue, but the virtual lottery system that civil lawyers have made out of medical malpractice is criminal. Creation of a pool of the uninsured that insurance companies would have to take a portion of would have been reasonable. I don't think many would have had a problem even potentially subsidizing such a pool. But Obamacare was not and is not the answer, it only will create a whole host of new problems.
The Heritage Foundation, e a conservative think tank, posted an interesting article today. Regardless of their political bent, facts are facts, as they lay out.
http://blog.heritage.org/2013/07/08/morning-b...

In regard to education, this country spends more than most countries per student already and fails miserably. And the blame can be laid at teachers' unions and a blotted bureaucracy. Throwing more money after bad is not the answer. Tax money following the student (rather than the student following the tax money) to whatever school the parents choose is my answer.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#17639 Jul 8, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
Is this your new standard for ALL source material you post?
No, but when:
1. A Democratic website has the following headline"Center For American Progress Launching Big War Room To Drive Obama Agenda" and
2. When CAP was created and is led by the Obama 2008 presidential transition team head John Podesta, I think it is reasonable to question how they slant their statistics.
Who

Baldwin, GA

#17640 Jul 8, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
Do I expect this to convince anyone opposed to Obamacare, nope, but so what.

Maybe not the conservatives, but you sure do expect to convince the uninformed, bolster the liberal point of acceptance, and further Obama's "slide to doom" for America.

If not, then why post this, "The Republicans want you to believe that Obamacare is a clear and present danger to you. They want you to believe it will cost most of you much more than now."

It's obvious you are trying to create a boogeyman to bolster the sorry web links you provided.

Using a social media site to bolster your argument, ROFL. Why not use topix? Why not use Obama's white house link?

The funny part is you think you can slip everything by conservatives here on topix. The only ones we let slip by are those so meaningless and innocuous that most conservatives don't even pay to attention to anyway.
It's just when you try to corrupt the young people, we do pay attention. It's a conservative thing, you wouldn't understand.
James

Blue Ridge, GA

#17641 Jul 8, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>
In regard to healthcare, I don't think anyone would argue with you that our system was far from perfect and that insurance companies could be a bureaucratic minefield. But there were reasonable changes that could have been made that would not have required such a complete transformation (and IMO crippling) of what was still the best healthcare available. Simply allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines in order to increase competition and lower prices would have been huge. Torte reform to lessen the "defensive medicine" that doctors - especially emergency room doctors- practice would also be huge. No one is advocating for those truly harmed by negligent physicians to not be able to sue, but the virtual lottery system that civil lawyers have made out of medical malpractice is criminal. Creation of a pool of the uninsured that insurance companies would have to take a portion of would have been reasonable. I don't think many would have had a problem even potentially subsidizing such a pool. But Obamacare was not and is not the answer, it only will create a whole host of new problems.
The Heritage Foundation, e a conservative think tank, posted an interesting article today. Regardless of their political bent, facts are facts, as they lay out.
http://blog.heritage.org/2013/07/08/morning-b...
In regard to education, this country spends more than most countries per student already and fails miserably. And the blame can be laid at teachers' unions and a blotted bureaucracy. Throwing more money after bad is not the answer. Tax money following the student (rather than the student following the tax money) to whatever school the parents choose is my answer.
Don't agree with your statement about education, my kids go to a public school, they do not even have books for there classes and no they don't have I pads or any other electronic aids. Only notes of a chalk board but they got a new 3 million dollar football field recently I don't know how they track money spent per student but I have a feeling spending money on construction , not teachers or book or advancing or education proses is a large part of our ploblem.
As for your statements on possible ways to start repairing our health care ond or insurance options I agree with you as a begging point to moniter uninsured and see if those changes would begin to shift the uninsured numbers and bring cost down
James

Blue Ridge, GA

#17642 Jul 8, 2013
Also as far as health care cost ,it may or may not surprise you to know what some doctors make. I have a friend that works for a company that recruits doctors to work for hospitals. The company places the doctors, negotiates there contracts and pays there malpractice insurance, then the company pays them a hourly rate directly to the doctor. These hourly rates range from 350.00 to 500.00 per hour. I know it takes many years of hard work and costly education to become a doctor, but I believe the financial reward out weighs the the real motivation that should encourage people to become doctors, to help people. Our doctors are the highest paid doctors in the world. Also my friend earns a six figure income for just recruiting these doctors.
Opinion Poll

Baldwin, GA

#17643 Jul 8, 2013
James wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't agree with your statement about education, my kids go to a public school, they do not even have books for there classes.

Please tell me which school system does not have books for their classes.
I really would like to know. If it is the same system as mine, I intend to do something about it.
oh great

Blairsville, GA

#17644 Jul 8, 2013
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh name changer with many faces, Are you Eve?
Which one are you? The one who wants a baby sitter? A nannie? or does your diaper need changing?
Post # 17570
Obamacare;
Socialist’s medicine. When many European countries are considering ways to cut services and cost at the expense of patients.
The worldwide recession has forced countries around the world to curb public spending — or risk defaulting on their debt.
“The United Kingdom is the latest to tighten its belt. The National Health Service (NHS)— the centralized public agency that runs Britain’s government healthcare system — is being forced to shave $31 billion from its budget by 2015.
In order to realize some savings, the NHS is raising the threshold at which patients qualify for treatment and lengthening wait times for surgeries determined “non-lifesaving.” The Service is also cutting more than 20,000 NHS jobs over the next two years and shuttering a number of hospitals.
Patients are feeling the pain. For decades, they’ve turned over substantial portions of their hard-earned paychecks as taxes — and accepted “free”
health care from the government in return. Only about 11 percent of Britons pay for their care privately.
They’ve foregone cutting-edge medical treatments available in the United States, told by their leaders that these new therapies were no better than the old ones — just more expensive. At least in Britain, they thought, everyone has access to basic health care. That has to be better than the situation in America, where tens of millions of people lack health insurance, right?
Hardly. The British healthcare system may “guarantee” access to care — but that doesn’t mean patients actually receive it.”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/2011/1...
“The Canadian supreme court struck down two Quebec laws, overturning a 30-year ban on private medicine in the province. The wording of the ruling, though, has implications beyond Quebec, and could be used to scrap other major parts of Canada's federal health care legislation.”
Government as baby sitter, nannie, and diaper changer will be forced to change their ways, as economies can no longer sustain the monies needed for socialism.
Again, which one are you?
Oh great moron, I can't argue with a nut. But I will try, our country is broke and deep in debt as most countries are today. Our health care system is the most expensive in the world, with a huge portion of our citizens with no coverage of any kind. But some hospitals are required by law to administer critical care. Our health care costs are breaking the middle class, with the insured making up the difference between the have insurance and the have no insurance. Hospitals have to cover their costs and most must also make a profit. The government already covers most of the cost for people like you, 65 and over. Why is that not socialism in your mind, could it be because you benefit? All the countries have the same budget problems we do, but everyone has health care. What you think to the Mr. Moron, are our adding machines just to conservative to do what other countries already do have done for many years?? Tell me why Medicare is not the same as socialized medicine for the elderly??
Who

Baldwin, GA

#17645 Jul 8, 2013
oh great wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh great moron, I can't argue with a nut. But I will try, our country is broke and deep in debt as most countries are today. Our health care system is the most expensive in the world, with a huge portion of our citizens with no coverage of any kind. But some hospitals are required by law to administer critical care. Our health care costs are breaking the middle class, with the insured making up the difference between the have insurance and the have no insurance. Hospitals have to cover their costs and most must also make a profit. The government already covers most of the cost for people like you, 65 and over. Why is that not socialism in your mind, could it be because you benefit? All the countries have the same budget problems we do, but everyone has health care. What you think to the Mr. Moron, are our adding machines just to conservative to do what other countries already do have done for many years?? Tell me why Medicare is not the same as socialized medicine for the elderly??

Well Eve, just because you say so doesn't make it true. Just because you say I'm over 65 doesn't make it true. Just because you say hospitals must make a profit doesn't make it true.

There are many untrue statements in your post. I'm not going to point them out, you wouldn't believe me anyway.

You keep asking for information while providing none, except opinions of course. Well sorry dude, I'm not an information booth on the highway for the dumb.

But you can put this in your hat to wear around, or in your pipe and smoke it instead of the weed.

The IRS is going to administer Obamacare, must give you a warm and fuzzy feeling all over.

"The IRS Mistakenly Exposed Thousands of Social Security Numbers."

http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/the-irs-m...
Informed Opinion

United States

#17646 Jul 8, 2013
corrected wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong o king of morons!! Its not what they prefer, its what the voting public prefers. Congress does nothing and blames someone else for all the problems. Then they go home and promise they are going to do exactly what the voters want. Then they go back to Congress and do nothing, and blame someone else again. And the cycle continues, they tell you want you want to hear. They know you are wrong and they can't do what they promise, they have no intention of doing anything. The spoiled baby boomers in American will have to die off before anything changes. Then the young people and new immigrants will get it corrected.
Congress - blames Obama and the Supremes;
Obama - blames the Supremes and Congress;
The Supremes - blame Congress and Obama;

Nobody is at fault;
Everyone gets re-elected;
Everyone gets paid.

Ah... American politics in action.

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