Carson council ponders Plan B after Measure H sales tax fails

There are 20 comments on the Daily Breeze story from Nov 3, 2010, titled Carson council ponders Plan B after Measure H sales tax fails. In it, Daily Breeze reports that:

Elie Zaarour, the owner of Minuteman Press in Carson, breathed a sigh of relief Wednesday at the news that Measure H had failed.

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Rachel Carlson liar

United States

#1 Nov 3, 2010
Plan-b; cut the salaries and pension of city workers...
you gotta be kiddin

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Nov 3, 2010
How about worrying about infrastructure and not worrying about social programs?
Corrupt-O-Crats

Santa Fe Springs, CA

#3 Nov 3, 2010
Rachel Carlson liar wrote:
Plan-b; cut the salaries and pension of city workers...
I'm glad the voters were smarter than that... Good for them and they deserve a pat on the back...
Corrupt-O-Crats

Santa Fe Springs, CA

#4 Nov 3, 2010
Rachel Carlson liar wrote:
Plan-b; cut the salaries and pension of city workers...
Oh and I almost forgot, you are 100% spot on. IF the city officials are expecting the people to shell out more of their cash, then they should help out also and take pay reductions, benefit reductions, cut out the perks, cut out the allowances, cut out the bonuses, cut out the waste, etc, etc, etc ...
carsons unhappy son

Corona Del Mar, CA

#5 Nov 3, 2010
at least we got to vote on it... given another avenue, it would have been tacked on automatically. thank God we STILL have some rights.
moses

United States

#6 Nov 4, 2010
it's time to change the mayor. it seems that it just keeps getiing worse with him in office. is he a democrat...all hey know is spend and tax.
Danny Boy

Los Angeles, CA

#7 Nov 4, 2010
The City employees are getting too much from the good days and their salary is one of the highest. One area that does not do anything is the "Code Enforcement" for the buildings and home constructions. They do not enforce the law if their friends are involved. It take years to enforce a lot of stuff including home remodeling 7 business building encroachment. What they do is bother residential trash cans that are on personal property, not on the city property. Too much pay for these employees and too much on their retirement. These is very true with all the Managers and Superintendent of Carson City Hall. Time for a "Pay Cut" for all. The Union is too greedy and getting too much politics. At least they have a job. Almost 10% of Americans are unemployed, many more are under-employed.
Jack Daniels

Los Angeles, CA

#8 Nov 4, 2010
Start by firing that lazy eyed public safety guy Rockhold who does nothing but sniff the behinds of more important people.
Joe

Santa Ana, CA

#9 Nov 4, 2010
Just think, the voters of Carson voted just like if they are good Republicans!
Gladiator of Torrance

Torrance, CA

#10 Nov 4, 2010
Oh yeah time to clean HOUSE!
Doug

Hermosa Beach, CA

#11 Nov 4, 2010
The citizens of Carson did the right thing.
Gonzo

Westminster, CA

#12 Nov 4, 2010
Corrupt-O-Crats wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh and I almost forgot, you are 100% spot on. IF the city officials are expecting the people to shell out more of their cash, then they should help out also and take pay reductions, benefit reductions, cut out the perks, cut out the allowances, cut out the bonuses, cut out the waste, etc, etc, etc ...
All city officials should drive their own cars and pay for their own gas like all the other city employees. If they need to conduct city business then they can provide a new job, ie a driver and a city van. It's time to trim the fat. If these simple ideas to cut the budget start to happen, see how many of the city muckie mucks start looking for other jobs.
Doug

Hermosa Beach, CA

#13 Nov 4, 2010
The citizens of Carson voted the right way.
Gonzo

Westminster, CA

#14 Nov 4, 2010
carsons unhappy son wrote:
at least we got to vote on it... given another avenue, it would have been tacked on automatically. thank God we STILL have some rights.
That is because you people in Carson stood your ground and didn't let the city council push you around anymore. Congrats to you all.
I hope other cities see what taking charge does instead of crying like babies and doing nothing about it. Great job
Gonzo

Westminster, CA

#15 Nov 4, 2010
Jack Daniels wrote:
Start by firing that lazy eyed public safety guy Rockhold who does nothing but sniff the behinds of more important people.
That would be a great start, keep it going!
Gonzo

Westminster, CA

#16 Nov 4, 2010
Danny Boy wrote:
The City employees are getting too much from the good days and their salary is one of the highest. One area that does not do anything is the "Code Enforcement" for the buildings and home constructions. They do not enforce the law if their friends are involved. It take years to enforce a lot of stuff including home remodeling 7 business building encroachment. What they do is bother residential trash cans that are on personal property, not on the city property. Too much pay for these employees and too much on their retirement. These is very true with all the Managers and Superintendent of Carson City Hall. Time for a "Pay Cut" for all. The Union is too greedy and getting too much politics. At least they have a job. Almost 10% of Americans are unemployed, many more are under-employed.
The people of Carson finally got things started, don't stop now. Protect your city like Bell did. Congrats to you all remember it's the citizens that pay the salaries.
The Shadow

Long Beach, CA

#17 Nov 4, 2010
In my business we have a plan B before we try out plan A. Not so with politicians. Hey the city of Bell is looking for some good council members.
Plain and Simple

Carson, CA

#20 Nov 4, 2010
"Councilman Elito Santarina and Councilwoman Lula Davis-Holmes said Wednesday that they were never enthusiastic about the measure"

Yet the city council voted "unanimously" to put the measure on the ballot.

I am so glad this measure has been defeated, sending a overwhelming and clear message to the city council. No to tax and fee hikes....
ASEA for life

Laguna Beach, CA

#21 Nov 4, 2010
Its lights out wrote:
These clowns we voted in and now we regret need to go! just like Obama we wanted change and all we got is change in our pockets we are broke and the city is too 9 million in the hole wow Karen Avilla held out for months and then wala guess what we are in the red sorry i could not balance the budget for the last five years on time i didn't have enough time was her excuse. But we gave away money to the car dealerships and money to the developers of the stink hole (Hopkins) and to the developer of the new building across from city hall. I say sell all that land the city owns you know the ones with the white fence's all over town. cut city staff to a skeleton crew especially planning dept they just sit around now that the construction business is dead. and yes get rid of all them weak wantabe public safety that what the sheriffs are for, and no more paying for over time to cops at the home depot events we do not benefit from the ticket nor parking sales anyway. Jerry Groomes leave and don't take another dollar that would truly show us you really cared NO PENSION NO VACATION NO LIFE TIME MED NO BENEFITS NOTHING JUST LEAVE NOW BECAUSE YOU ARE WORTHLESS. N O W T H A T S P L A N "B"
I am so happy that there are others that feel the same as I Do. Lets Roll, off with there heads and start cutting back staff asap.
Very Interesting

Anaheim, CA

#22 Nov 4, 2010
I find it very interesting that now that elections are over, the City Council members speak out. Where were they during the election? They voted to put the measure on the ballot and therefore should have been promoting the measure. If the measure would have passed, they would all be seeking a pat on the back. As for the committee that worked against the measure, they are no better than the elected officials. They sit back and complain day in and day out. What are THEY doing to protect the city? NOTHING. Just their usual complaining.

There have been major cut-backs in the city's general fund budget. Important programs including the safety of the residents will continue to be at risk. Gone are the days of all the "freebies."

I am also tired of the posts that bad mouth the employees and management. These folks work hard to sustain the city and ensure the residents have a safe city, including programs for all. Just like those who work in private industry, city employees work for years and years to have a pension. In fact those in private industry have higher salaries! So give it a rest people, the city of Carson is not the city of Bell.

Carson will find a way to continue to provide essential services to their residents.

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