CHECKPOINTS: Torrance results. Carson...

CHECKPOINTS: Torrance results. Carson, Redondo Beach, Gardena, Hawt...

There are 39 comments on the Daily Breeze story from Jul 15, 2010, titled CHECKPOINTS: Torrance results. Carson, Redondo Beach, Gardena, Hawt.... In it, Daily Breeze reports that:

Police released these results of a checkpoint from 8 p.m. July 10 to 3 a.m. July 11 in the eastbound lanes of the 2800 block of Sepulveda Boulevard.

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Since: May 10

Van Nuys, CA

#1 Jul 15, 2010
Since police departments are no longer being specific about where there checkpoints are. Which to my understanding, they have to be by California law. Make sure to check Twitter or Trapster before you leave the house these days, so you can bypass these "taxpayer shakedown and rights violation checkpoints."
define tonight

Sacramento, CA

#2 Jul 15, 2010
"Redondo Beach. Police will conduct a sobriety and driver's license checkpoint from 8 tonight to 3 a.m. Saturday at an undisclosed location."
So is the check point "tonight" Thursday July 15th or is it on Saturday July 17th? Or is it from 8pm on Friday the 16th to 3am on Saturday the 17th?
Am I correct in being confused?
BigAL77

Lakewood, CA

#3 Jul 15, 2010
I really don't care where the checkpoints are. It's important to get unlicensed and drunk drivers off the road. Your complaints about this are unwarranted since you believe an unlicensed or drunk driver will never harm you or your family. Be careful out there. It will happen when you least expect it.
Paul Revere

Redondo Beach, CA

#5 Jul 15, 2010
Checkpoints are a violation against the Amendment 6 of the US Constitution regarding illegal search and seizure. Let us find the checkpoint and post signs miles in advance "Warning your Constitutional rights are about to be violated - checkpoint ahead" and organize a large group of vehicles to gather and go thru the checkpoint in serial fashion and refuse to stop on the grounds of our rights against illegal search and seizure without probable csuse as stated in the US Constitution. As I warned in the 1700's the Red Coats are coming. Paul.
Alex Trebek

Fontana, CA

#6 Jul 15, 2010
Bzzzz! Wrong answer, thank you for playing Jeopardy, Paul Revere!
The courts (even the 9th circuit) have found that the checkpoints fall under an "administrative detention" much like the security screenings at the airport.
How about you just walk through the airport screening and see what happens? Probably pretty much the same as if you drive through the checkpoint!
Neeto

Hilmar, CA

#7 Jul 15, 2010
Paul Revere wrote:
Checkpoints are a violation against the Amendment 6 of the US Constitution regarding illegal search and seizure. Let us find the checkpoint and post signs miles in advance "Warning your Constitutional rights are about to be violated - checkpoint ahead" and organize a large group of vehicles to gather and go thru the checkpoint in serial fashion and refuse to stop on the grounds of our rights against illegal search and seizure without probable csuse as stated in the US Constitution. As I warned in the 1700's the Red Coats are coming. Paul.
both of your foolish plans are illegal. With that I think you should do it, lead the way but be careful when your pursuit gets into Torrance as they don't mess around. Also I thought the 4th amendment dealt with search and seizure? Maybe I'm wrong!!?? I will go to the check point to watch, should be fun to watch you get dragged out of your car!!
Paul Revere

Redondo Beach, CA

#8 Jul 16, 2010
Alex Trebek wrote:
Bzzzz! Wrong answer, thank you for playing Jeopardy, Paul Revere!
The courts (even the 9th circuit) have found that the checkpoints fall under an "administrative detention" much like the security screenings at the airport.
How about you just walk through the airport screening and see what happens? Probably pretty much the same as if you drive through the checkpoint!
Alex, What do you know about the US constituion? You are a Canadian. I think stopping and detaining people on the streets for however long without any probable cause is just plain WRONG and in violation of the US constitution right against illegal search and siezure regardless of what ever weasal words like "administrative detention" are used to get around the US constitution, it still violates the US Constitution amendment as stated by the Supreme court ( i will send you the url if you like) who then went on to justify them anyway.
SOBAY310

Bloomington, IL

#9 Jul 16, 2010
You guys all have the same stupid debate everytime the Daily Breeze post a checkpoint notice. Just don't drink and drive...that's it!
numbers dont lie

United States

#10 Jul 16, 2010
I don't drink, I have a valid drivers license, and I have insurance....Oh yea, and I'm not an illegal alien....soooo, I'm good...Put them up at every corner...I got nothing to hide!
Alex Trebek

Fontana, CA

#11 Jul 16, 2010
Paul,
Despite my “nom de plume”, I have put my life on the line for this country and it’s constitution. I don’t care how YOU interpret the document, what is important is how the courts interpret it. So follow court law, listen to the courts, and drive safe. If you drive while impaired or unlicensed, you should be held accountable.
After all, the life the cops save, might be your own!
Right Right

Torrance, CA

#12 Jul 16, 2010
The Supreme Court has ruled that these worthless checkpoints are only constitutional if the location is published far ahead of time.

Anyone who gets a DUI at the Redondo Checkpoint is off the hook.
Freedom to lose

Redondo Beach, CA

#13 Jul 16, 2010
numbers dont lie wrote:
I don't drink, I have a valid drivers license, and I have insurance....Oh yea, and I'm not an illegal alien....soooo, I'm good...Put them up at every corner...I got nothing to hide!
Nothing to hide, but your freedom to lose, never mind how many hours you spend in the nazi gastapo line at every corner. Halt unt show us your papers. Unt if you do not halt vee vill open fire. Heil Hitler!
MADD

AOL

#14 Jul 16, 2010
Paul Revere wrote:
Checkpoints are a violation against the Amendment 6 of the US Constitution regarding illegal search and seizure. Let us find the checkpoint and post signs miles in advance "Warning your Constitutional rights are about to be violated - checkpoint ahead" and organize a large group of vehicles to gather and go thru the checkpoint in serial fashion and refuse to stop on the grounds of our rights against illegal search and seizure without probable csuse as stated in the US Constitution. As I warned in the 1700's the Red Coats are coming. Paul.
Well, I am a roving DUI checkpoint. If I see a drunk driver I call 911 and follow you until the police arrive so watch out if you drink and drive!It works every time!
What, don't you care if someone wipes out your family or friends because they wanted to break the law and be irresponsible! My life has been affected forever because of a drunk driver!
cali native girl

Redlands, CA

#15 Jul 16, 2010
MADD wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, I am a roving DUI checkpoint. If I see a drunk driver I call 911 and follow you until the police arrive so watch out if you drink and drive!It works every time!
What, don't you care if someone wipes out your family or friends because they wanted to break the law and be irresponsible! My life has been affected forever because of a drunk driver!
Keep up the good work! I lost someone close to me due to the stupidity of a repeat offender drunk driver. The more checkpoints, the safer we all are.
Martin Luther King

Redondo Beach, CA

#16 Jul 17, 2010
cali native girl wrote:
<quoted text> Keep up the good work! I lost someone close to me due to the stupidity of a repeat offender drunk driver. The more checkpoints, the safer we all are.
Yes that is probable cause - they are driving erratic. And yes police should rove and look for erratic driving rather then set up a Nazi roadblock and stop every car on the street and illegally seize there vehicle and not allow them to proceed free until they say so. Police stopping every car at a roadblock WRONG and a violation of the US consitution against illegal search and siezure without probable cause and should NOT BE TOLERATED!!!
Martin Luther King

Redondo Beach, CA

#17 Jul 17, 2010
MADD wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, I am a roving DUI checkpoint. If I see a drunk driver I call 911 and follow you until the police arrive so watch out if you drink and drive!It works every time!
What, don't you care if someone wipes out your family or friends because they wanted to break the law and be irresponsible! My life has been affected forever because of a drunk driver!
Yes that is probable cause - they are driving erratic. And yes police should rove and look for erratic driving rather then set up a Nazi roadblock and stop every car on the street and illegally seize there vehicle and not allow them to proceed free until they say so. Police stopping every car at a roadblock WRONG and a violation of the US consitution against illegal search and siezure without probable cause and should NOT BE TOLERATED!!!
unconstitutional

United States

#18 Jul 17, 2010
attorneys make the laws for their own benefits,deal with it,who cares what our beautiful Constitution rules, if a state bypasses a law to make checkpoints legal we should all approve it.NOT ANYMORE!!!.we are losing our freedom.we live on a police state.
we as citizens do not have to agree with everything the government does.we need to rise up and fight for our rights.
unconstitutional

United States

#19 Jul 17, 2010
Paul Revere wrote:
Checkpoints are a violation against the Amendment 6 of the US Constitution regarding illegal search and seizure. Let us find the checkpoint and post signs miles in advance "Warning your Constitutional rights are about to be violated - checkpoint ahead" and organize a large group of vehicles to gather and go thru the checkpoint in serial fashion and refuse to stop on the grounds of our rights against illegal search and seizure without probable csuse as stated in the US Constitution. As I warned in the 1700's the Red Coats are coming. Paul.
I agree,we need to stand up and claim our constitutional rights.
we cannot let a government dictate our way of life.
The Shadow

Compton, CA

#20 Jul 17, 2010
Just the revenue agents gathering taxes so the city can pay their overtime. 25 cops driving around may have caught more than 7 drunks. But maybe not? Much easier this way though. Why pay cops to patrol when they can stop law abiding citizens and detain them without cause? Because it's a lot easier than driving around and doing a better job of getting really impaired folks off the road. One of these days while 25 cops are holding down Torrance Blvd at Bishop Montgomery, someone really drunk will smash up a mile away where no cops are around. Then we'll see just how effective these really are. Just like most PDs dumb rules about following drivers who run, someone will get run over at 60 mph on Eyewitness News, then we'll see how well those policies are received in the future. Cops need to get out there and patrol in areas where traffic collisions are high, where gang activity exists, and in areas that attract crowds of folks. You know like the mall. Leave the rest of us alone!

Since: May 10

Van Nuys, CA

#21 Jul 18, 2010
Anybody making the argument that these checkpoints are for our safety to protect us from drunk drivers needs to look at the police's own stats. Checkpoints have time and time again been proven an ineffective method of catching drunk drivers and paled when compared with putting the same number of officers on patrol. So those advocating for checkpoints, you are directly advocating for less safety on the road for all of us and are allowing more drunk drivers to not get caught.

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