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“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#468 Apr 5, 2013
Noogent wrote:
<quoted text>GOD exists moron. Get over it.
Prove it. Prove any one of the so called gods.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#469 Apr 7, 2013
http://www.wingia.com/web/files/news/14/file/...

Unlike other statistics we've looked at in this thread, this study looks at two polls conducted the same way in every country seven years apart from each other. As such, it is the only study I've seen that can claim to have correctly analyzed the trends over that time.

Vietnam had the greatest drop in religiosity, yet still has too small an atheist population to be represented at the scale used in presenting the data as compared to 1% in 2005.

Religiosity fell from 73% in the U.S. while atheism jumped from 1% to 5%.

Among countries surveyed in both studies (only 39 were), religiosity fell from 77% to 68% while atheism rose from 4% to 7%.

All in all, an interesting and encouraging study. Have a look for yourselves.
Lincoln

United States

#470 Apr 7, 2013
Noogent wrote:
<quoted text>GOD exists moron. Get over it.
Q-bot is a legend in his own mind?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#471 Apr 7, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
http://www.wingia.com/web/file s/news/14/file/14.pdf
Unlike other statistics we've looked at in this thread, this study looks at two polls conducted the same way in every country seven years apart from each other. As such, it is the only study I've seen that can claim to have correctly analyzed the trends over that time.
Vietnam had the greatest drop in religiosity, yet still has too small an atheist population to be represented at the scale used in presenting the data as compared to 1% in 2005.
Religiosity fell from 73% in the U.S. while atheism jumped from 1% to 5%.
Among countries surveyed in both studies (only 39 were), religiosity fell from 77% to 68% while atheism rose from 4% to 7%.
All in all, an interesting and encouraging study. Have a look for yourselves.
Thanks! Interesting, as always.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#472 Apr 7, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
http://www.wingia.com/web/file s/news/14/file/14.pdf
Unlike other statistics we've looked at in this thread, this study looks at two polls conducted the same way in every country seven years apart from each other. As such, it is the only study I've seen that can claim to have correctly analyzed the trends over that time.
Vietnam had the greatest drop in religiosity, yet still has too small an atheist population to be represented at the scale used in presenting the data as compared to 1% in 2005.
Religiosity fell from 73% in the U.S. while atheism jumped from 1% to 5%.
Among countries surveyed in both studies (only 39 were), religiosity fell from 77% to 68% while atheism rose from 4% to 7%.
All in all, an interesting and encouraging study. Have a look for yourselves.
What I found compelling is the statistic you didn't mention: "non religous" at 23%.

I see that as a welcome improvement, myself, even if some in that group still believe in something "cosmic".

Indeed, no one has anything much to fear from the people in that group, as far as I can see-- for people who self-identify as "non religions" are unlikely to rally around strictly religious causes.

And that is a positive improvement. If more and more people require reasons that are more than just "god said so" to make life choices and causes to rally around?

Then "god said so" eventually takes a back-seat, and everyone is better off.
Lincoln

United States

#473 Apr 7, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Respect other people's beliefs?
ROFLMAO!!
You're the guy who with the holy book that contains instructions to kill other people for their beliefs.
Karl Marx
VI Lenin
Communist atheists killed 50 million in the 20th century.
Don't be modest about your side

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#474 Apr 7, 2013
Oh absolutely! That makes the numbers so much better for our standpoint.

Religion and the god myth is being properly minimized and secular humanism is winning the day.

Bravo!
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>What I found compelling is the statistic you didn't mention: "non religous" at 23%.

I see that as a welcome improvement, myself, even if some in that group still believe in something "cosmic".

Indeed, no one has anything much to fear from the people in that group, as far as I can see-- for people who self-identify as "non religions" are unlikely to rally around strictly religious causes.

And that is a positive improvement. If more and more people require reasons that are more than just "god said so" to make life choices and causes to rally around?

Then "god said so" eventually takes a back-seat, and everyone is better off.
Lincoln

United States

#475 Apr 7, 2013
Joseph Stalin
V I Lenin
Kamenev
Zinoviev
Communist atheists killed 50 million in the 20th century.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#476 Apr 7, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Oh absolutely! That makes the numbers so much better for our standpoint.
Religion and the god myth is being properly minimized and secular humanism is winning the day.
Bravo!
<quoted text>
Yep. The godbots are growing ever more desperate...

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#477 Apr 7, 2013
They're about due to start mentioning crimes against humanity in the name of communism any time now.

Always a sign of desperation and one that has been repeatedly debunked.

Next up Hitler the Christian will become an atheist again lol!
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Yep. The godbots are growing ever more desperate...
Tonya

Little Elm, TX

#478 Apr 7, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
They're about due to start mentioning crimes against humanity in the name of communism any time now.
Always a sign of desperation and one that has been repeatedly debunked.
Next up Hitler the Christian will become an atheist again lol!
<quoted text>
Ummm.....Hitler was not a Christian. Dig a little deeper and get your "facts" straight.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#479 Apr 7, 2013
Tonya wrote:
<quoted text>
Ummm.....Hitler was not a Christian. Dig a little deeper and get your "facts" straight.
Sure, sure-- he was a Catholic (according to his own diaries) and they are not >>real<< christians, right?

After all-- Jesus died and left YOU in charge of who is and who isn't.

Is that about right?

LMAO!

Since: Mar 11

United States

#480 Apr 8, 2013
Even if she is one of these Catholics are not Christians she will be red faced explaining away his championing for Protestantism to become the main religion in Germany.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Sure, sure-- he was a Catholic (according to his own diaries) and they are not >>real<< christians, right?

After all-- Jesus died and left YOU in charge of who is and who isn't.

Is that about right?

LMAO!
Thinking

Bolton, UK

#482 Apr 8, 2013
Hitler was the catholic leader of a majority protestant Germany.
Tonya wrote:
<quoted text>
Ummm.....Hitler was not a Christian. Dig a little deeper and get your "facts" straight.
Lincoln

United States

#483 Apr 8, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Hitler was the catholic leader of a majority protestant Germany.
<quoted text>
Wrong but typical of atheist thinking.

Thatcher is dead
Lincoln

United States

#484 Apr 8, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Hitler was the catholic leader of a majority protestant Germany.
<quoted text>
Lurkers stay tuned.

Next Stalin,
Trostsky
and the rest of the atheist communists
will be
" leader of a majority protestant Germany." :-)
Thinking

Bolton, UK

#485 Apr 8, 2013
Hitler was the catholic leader of a majority protestant Germany.
Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong but typical of atheist thinking.
Thatcher is dead

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#486 Apr 8, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Hitler was the catholic leader of a majority protestant Germany.
<quoted text>
Absolutely

The vast majority of the German population were Christians with Christian morals and ethics.

There was nothing that stood between the Jews and the gas chambers other than those same Christian ethics.

Which ended up amounting to nothing.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#487 Apr 8, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Hitler was the catholic leader of a majority protestant Germany.
<quoted text>
True or not, that misses the point. Hitler was not inspired by religion or by animosity for it. II don't see much agreement about what did inspire him, actually beyond a lust for power, conquest, and German supremacy. Some propose that he suffered from paranoid schizophrenia and narcissistic personality disorder. Some dismiss him as simply Evil. Others say that attempts to understand him are ultimately futile. At any rate, using him as a tool to smear anyone other than Hitler himself shows a huge lack of understanding, probably from minds compromised by enmity.

The same goes for Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin... none of these men were driven by their religious affiliations or viewpoints. I suspect that for all of them, it was about narcissism and the pursuit of power.

Which is why I almost never write about them here. They are soooo beside the point.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#488 Apr 8, 2013
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>
True or not, that misses the point. Hitler was not inspired by religion or by animosity for it. II don't see much agreement about what did inspire him, actually beyond a lust for power, conquest, and German supremacy. Some propose that he suffered from paranoid schizophrenia and narcissistic personality disorder. Some dismiss him as simply Evil. Others say that attempts to understand him are ultimately futile. At any rate, using him as a tool to smear anyone other than Hitler himself shows a huge lack of understanding, probably from minds compromised by enmity.
The same goes for Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin... none of these men were driven by their religious affiliations or viewpoints. I suspect that for all of them, it was about narcissism and the pursuit of power.
Which is why I almost never write about them here. They are soooo beside the point.
Incorrect.

Hitler was motivated by many things. He was motivated by a hate of religion, particularly Judaism and Christianity.

He was also motivated by science - namely Darwinian evolution theory.

He saw justification for his debauchery in his perceived weakness of religion, and strength of science.

It's familiar in these parts.

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