The city buying the old Hubbard build...
uuh

Atlanta, GA

#22 Nov 28, 2012
hey bill , what about declaring it unsafe or just using immenate domain, if that place goes up in flame it will scorch stuff for a quarter of a mile , if i lived or owned anywhere in that block , i'd up my fire insurance to the max!

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#23 Nov 28, 2012
Imminent Domain requires a lot of time and paperwork. Declaring it unsafe really does not do anything and could be tied up in court for years. Buying the property and dozing it adds value and when sold puts money (Hopefully Profit) back into the City coffers.
Olden Goldie

Atlanta, GA

#24 Nov 28, 2012
1) You are correct, you can Thank Tom Murphy for much of the infrastructure, not being in the county school system, Technical College, water in county, etc..... The list goes on. He was a great provider for this community. Bill Heath has done nothing but the In God We Trust sticker on the tags and legislation to ban clit rings.
2) If you want to revitalize a community, start with the worst parts first. That Hubbard building is a mess, granted, but it is our mess and we can ignore and hope for a tornado or fire or we can embrace it and cause positive change.
I don't believe that anyone on this board actually cares about causing real positive change so I don't even know why I bother.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#25 Nov 29, 2012
I for one would very much like to see my Hometown returned to it's Glory of the 70's again. It is very depressing to drive through downtown these days.
Big Bass Hunter

United States

#26 Nov 29, 2012
Thanks wrote:
You can think the great Tom Murphy for not having the reservoir, when he was in he could have made it happen. But he used it for leverage
For votes, then heath beat him and now we have no reservoir.. Oh yeah I almost forgot how much money was wasted on straightening cash town road. Wonder which supporter of his had property there?
Some people are so stupid or they don't check the facts. The money for the reservoir was sitting ready to be started when Bill Heath took office. The fact is that the Governor used the money with the help of senators to fund other projects. " Get your facts right". Tom Murphy supported this county like no other person has or will. Ask you senator or congressman what have they done that impacted our residents directly on the positive side. How many millions will the state cut Bremen City Schools this year?
old man

AOL

#27 Nov 29, 2012
Big Bass Hunter wrote:
<quoted text>
Some people are so stupid or they don't check the facts. The money for the reservoir was sitting ready to be started when Bill Heath took office. The fact is that the Governor used the money with the help of senators to fund other projects. " Get your facts right". Tom Murphy supported this county like no other person has or will. Ask you senator or congressman what have they done that impacted our residents directly on the positive side. How many millions will the state cut Bremen City Schools this year?
Tell us what Tom did for this county, A detailed list would help.

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#28 Nov 29, 2012
Yeah, I'd kind of like to know, too.
uuh

Atlanta, GA

#29 Nov 29, 2012
Bill in Clayton County wrote:
Imminent Domain requires a lot of time and paperwork. Declaring it unsafe really does not do anything and could be tied up in court for years. Buying the property and dozing it adds value and when sold puts money (Hopefully Profit) back into the City coffers.
Roger that , understand. It's sad that the hubbard company did'nt do something with or at the least tear it down. What's really sad is the eyesore people who come through here have to see it . but at least somebody tried to do something with the other building down the hill. Wonder what happend to that project. They had to spend a chunk on that one .

“Unions are still scum ”

Since: Dec 07

Atlanta

#30 Nov 29, 2012
Big Bass Hunter wrote:
<quoted text>
Tom Murphy supported this county like no other person has or will.
Yeah, old man Murphy got a few people jobs in Atlanta, but did jack sh!t to bring business to Haralson county. Please tell me exactly what Murphy did for this area while serving 50 plus years in Congress.
old man

AOL

#31 Nov 29, 2012
Mr Tom, My boy need's a good job with the state, I know he's not too bright so I hope you can help him out, our whole family votes for you every election and support you 100%. Oh and in this envelope is a little donation to pay your reelection expenses, even though no one ever runs against you, please let us know if there's anything we can ever do for you.
Big Bass Hunter

United States

#32 Dec 1, 2012
Bill in Clayton County wrote:
The only way Bremen is ever going to move forward is through investment. Buying up these old run down properties and leveling them is a good way to attract new business. Bremen is still close enough to the interstate to be revitalized, but you have to spend money and make improvements in order to attract investors and new business.
This is right. Bremen can and should invest in properties that will be a huge tax investment in the future. Just think, what the Hubbard's property was worth when 1100 workers were working there? I bet it was in the millions. Now it is worth a small fraction of that amount.

The mayor and the city can get grants to help, these are matching grants that promote jobs and revenue for the city.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#33 Dec 3, 2012
Tom Murphy was in Office as long as I can remember. I know that my mom and dad knew him personally, and he got Sam Nunn to sponsor my brother to the Naval Academy back before cars had catalytic converters. I would really like to know from somebody who can be objective and nonpartisan about what he did for Haralson County in General. I know that he did quite a bit for the state as speaker of the house.

Thanks, Bill

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#35 Dec 3, 2012
I had to split up "gerry mandering" instead of making it one word like it should be as Topix apparently thought it was a cuss word.
Olden Goldie

Atlanta, GA

#37 Dec 4, 2012
Let's see
Technical College in waco, 4 lane Hwy 27, Money to start library in Bremen in 70's, Money for underpass on East side of town, Bremen Softball fields, Water infrastructure all through Haralson county... All the public services you take for granted were funded to a great deal by state grants.
Do you not think that it is odd that a tiny little town has the infrastructure we have? When Tom was in office, if a local government needed money for a project or to fix something - BAM there it was. Without Tom, Carrollton would take over 30 minutes to get to from bremen. Without Tom, I-20 would have gone through Carrollton. Without Tom Bremen High School would be part of the failing Haralson School system and half the people who live in Bremen would not be here. The list continues...

Certainly he had some issues, as we all do, but he used his considerable power at the State to make sure West Georgia was taken care of. Travel around Georgia and look at cities twice our size and how little they have as far as public infrastructure - Thank you Tom. RIP
Wondering

Douglasville, GA

#38 Dec 4, 2012
What is Haralson County Schools failing at? Are they failing at not providing an education are they failing at providing an education to those kids that Bremen doesn't want. As a city school they choose the best and brightest and send the others to the county system unless they provide a benefit for athletics. The charter system model is alive and well in Haralson County.
politically incorrect

Bremen, GA

#39 Dec 4, 2012
Technical College in waco, 4 lane Hwy 27, Money to start library in Bremen in 70's, Money for underpass on East side of town, Bremen Softball fields, Water infrastructure all through Haralson county... All the public services you take for granted were funded to a great deal by state grants.
Do you not think that it is odd that a tiny little town has the infrastructure we have? When Tom was in office, if a local government needed money for a project or to fix something - BAM there it was. Without Tom, Carrollton would take over 30 minutes to get to from bremen. Without Tom, I-20 would have gone through Carrollton. Without Tom Bremen High School would be part of the failing Haralson School system and half the people who live in Bremen would not be here. The list continues...

I'm sure you are right about a lot of things Mr. Murphy did for the W.Ga. area and Ga. as a whole. He was a powerful force and guided the state in fiscal responsibility and growth. I always felt he wanted to take care of Haralson county but wanted it to remain rural and avoid the pitfalls other counties around metro Atlanta dealt with. Haralson county and Bremen were very prosperous back in the day before the collapse of textiles. Maybe he felt that was enough compared to the rest of Ga. But it never took me 30 minutes to get to Carrollton even when 27 was a two lane. And I-20 was started in the 1950's. My dad bought property all along the the proposed route speculating on real estate. In the 1960's you got off I-20 at D'ville onto 78 and got back on at Heflin. I can't believe the Fed Govt ever considered a route through Carrollton. But, I always heard that one of Mr. Murphy's land baron in-laws held up this stretch of I-20 over an emminent domain case for 20 something years. Also, in the original plan there was no exit at Waco but there was one at old Hwy 100 near the Al. line which changed before the Carroll and Haralson stretch of I-20 was completed.

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#40 Dec 5, 2012
PI, I remember the I-20 Debacle well. I also know the name of the man that kept the feds at bay for the 20 years, but no need to mention it here. I don't recall there ever being a plan to run I-20 through Carrollton. Don't know where that came from. I know it was always a pain to get off there at Douglasville and run 78 all the way to Heflin. Many folks lost their lives over that 20 year period with Tractor Trailer accidents all along 78 back in the day. I lost a couple of high school friends in the Temple area myself.
Callin it like

Temple, GA

#41 Dec 5, 2012
Wondering wrote:
What is Haralson County Schools failing at? Are they failing at not providing an education are they failing at providing an education to those kids that Bremen doesn't want. As a city school they choose the best and brightest and send the others to the county system unless they provide a benefit for athletics. The charter system model is alive and well in Haralson County.
So you think bremen schools are really that great? Lol, look at some of the folks they hire.lol
Big Bass Hunter

Macon, GA

#42 Dec 5, 2012
old man wrote:
<quoted text> Tell us what Tom did for this county, A detailed list would help.
OK, Here is the list

1. Served in the military, during WW11
2. Served in the House for Haralson County, provided adequate funding for both Haralson County Schools and Bremen City Schools for over 30 years,
3. Provided for new schools for Haralson County and Bremen.
4. Water Works improvements through out Haralson County. Every home has the county water line available to them.
5. Paved Roads in Haralson County.
6. Computers in every school.
7. West Central Technical College.
8. I-20 from Alabama state Line to Douglasville.
9. Hwy 27 Bypass
10. High School sports complex Haralson County
11. Companies coming to Haralson County to provide over 1500 jobs
12. Provided attorney services to needy citizens who could not afford attorney services otherwise.
13. Assisted over 1000 Haralson county Citizens to acquire jobs in the state government. Many State patrolmen positions were filled with qualified citizens from Haralson County.
14. My family has been helped by Mr. Murphy and I would bet every Haralson County Citizen has had a family member that Mr. Murphy has represented.

Personal note: When I was 15, a junior at Bremen High School, our class was given the opportunity to go to Washington DC in the "close-up" program. It was our responsibility to ask for donations
for the trip. The price for each person was approximately $800.00
and I went to Mr. Murphy and he funded two students to go on the trip.
Big Bass Hunter

Macon, GA

#43 Dec 5, 2012
Callin it like wrote:
<quoted text>
So you think bremen schools are really that great? Lol, look at some of the folks they hire.lol
I don't want to cut down Temple because I have family there, but YES Bremen is a great school. The day Temple beats Bremen in Football is when I will say Temple is Great!

Maybe you can send your son or daughter to Bremen for a year like the other 100 + Carroll County residents do every year.
Try it and I know you will like it!.

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