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#1
Nov 7, 2012
 
Now that ObamaCare is an inevitable reality, I wonder when the masses are going to learn its not free. I cannot wait to see my co workers who were so Obama supportive when the get that first paycheck with the ObamaCare deduction,
They still all think they are getting free insurance, lol

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Nov 7, 2012
 

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Educate yourself. There is no "Obamacare deduction". You keep the insurance you have. Employers over a certain size are required to offer an affordable health care plan, and employees are required to be covered in some way. If you can't afford to pay the premiums, you can get assistance.

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Key word "assistance".

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Nov 7, 2012
 
Which is less expensive in the long run than having medical costs increased to cover unpaid ER visits, or for those people to go on Medicaid.... which are the only options they have right now.
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yea , wobb your an entitlelist. probably the first inline to get what your country OWES YOU
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Nov 9, 2012
 
just got my new rate for insurance.up $70 a month. glade obamacare is free

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Nov 13, 2012
 

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Wobbly, not entirely true. Companies with over 50 employees have already started letting people go to get at or under 50 employees total. Applebees, Papa Johns and several other Franchise owners have also started doing that and pulling hours so that the employees will not be counted as full time. Business owners are going to start being creative by breaking companies into smaller businesses with less employees to bypass ObamaCare. This is going to hurt the average employee only in the long run.

I got a little chuckle on Monday when a friend of Neil Boortz called into his program and advised Neal that he had just taken actions to get his Company downsized under the 50 Employee Maximum. He told Neil that he walked out in the parking lot of his business and the first 5 employees that had Obama Bumper Stickers were given Termination Notices. He said the only fair way to let folks go was to let the ones that Voted for this mess be the first on the Chopping Block to feel the consequences of their choice.....

Elections Have Consequences...
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Nov 13, 2012
 

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Excellent! May sound cruel but,I would live to do that!Lol!

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Nov 13, 2012
 
Bill in Clayton County wrote:
Wobbly, not entirely true. Companies with over 50 employees have already started letting people go to get at or under 50 employees total.
And what does that say about employers who would rather let employees go or cut their hours instead of providing a minimal level of health insurance?

I don't know the particulars for the Darden Group businesses, but Papa John's owner John Schnatter said that he'd cut employee's hours rather than pass on a 15 cent increase on the price of a pizza.

15 cents. To provide decent health insurance to his employees. And to avoid that he'll cut their hours and cost *them* much more than 15 cents. I'd have been happy to pay 15 cents more for a pizza, rather than have people lose income or their jobs.

It's a case of the rich only wanting to be richer rather than look after their employees and make their lives better. It's not the President bringing hardship into the lives of these people; it's the corporations not wanting to let go of a little profit.

"I've got mine, Jack, keep your hands off my stack."

Now that right there is a sin if there ever was one. And karma is a bitch.

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Oh, one more thing: it's illegal to terminate or harass an employee based on their vote. I hope those employees march themselves right down to the Labor Bureau and file complaints against the employer, and then find a good lawyer and sue his behind parts off.
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Nov 13, 2012
 
Bill in Clayton County wrote:
Wobbly, not entirely true. Companies with over 50 employees have already started letting people go to get at or under 50 employees total. Applebees, Papa Johns and several other Franchise owners have also started doing that and pulling hours so that the employees will not be counted as full time. Business owners are going to start being creative by breaking companies into smaller businesses with less employees to bypass ObamaCare. This is going to hurt the average employee only in the long run.
I got a little chuckle on Monday when a friend of Neil Boortz called into his program and advised Neal that he had just taken actions to get his Company downsized under the 50 Employee Maximum. He told Neil that he walked out in the parking lot of his business and the first 5 employees that had Obama Bumper Stickers were given Termination Notices. He said the only fair way to let folks go was to let the ones that Voted for this mess be the first on the Chopping Block to feel the consequences of their choice.....
Elections Have Consequences...
If an employer really did that and was dumb enough to brag about it so that his identity is known, he could be in some serious legal trouble. Retaliating for someone for how they vote is, I think, illegal.

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Nov 13, 2012
 
Used to live in GA wrote:
If an employer really did that and was dumb enough to brag about it so that his identity is known, he could be in some serious legal trouble. Retaliating for someone for how they vote is, I think, illegal.
You are absolutely correct. I think it's covered by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which, interestingly enough, certain "severe conservatives" keep trying to have repealed.

I really hope, if this actually happened, those employees immediately filed a complaint with the EEOC and got themselves a bulldog of a lawyer. I'd *love* to hear about some employer with a load of post-election butthurt getting sued for firing an employee because they had an Obama sticker on their car... especially is they were monumentally stupid enough to *tell* the employee that's why they were fired!!

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Nov 13, 2012
 
Bill in Clayton County wrote:
I got a little chuckle on Monday when a friend of Neil Boortz called into his program and advised Neal that he had just taken actions to get his Company downsized under the 50 Employee Maximum. He told Neil that he walked out in the parking lot of his business and the first 5 employees that had Obama Bumper Stickers were given Termination Notices. He said the only fair way to let folks go was to let the ones that Voted for this mess be the first on the Chopping Block to feel the consequences of their choice.....
Elections Have Consequences...
Amen! Stinking "entitled people".

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wobbler1957 wrote:
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And what does that say about employers who would rather let employees go or cut their hours instead of providing a minimal level of health insurance?
I don't know the particulars for the Darden Group businesses, but Papa John's owner John Schnatter said that he'd cut employee's hours rather than pass on a 15 cent increase on the price of a pizza.
15 cents. To provide decent health insurance to his employees. And to avoid that he'll cut their hours and cost *them* much more than 15 cents. I'd have been happy to pay 15 cents more for a pizza, rather than have people lose income or their jobs.
It's a case of the rich only wanting to be richer rather than look after their employees and make their lives better. It's not the President bringing hardship into the lives of these people; it's the corporations not wanting to let go of a little profit.
"I've got mine, Jack, keep your hands off my stack."
Now that right there is a sin if there ever was one. And karma is a bitch.
People that put this man back in office thinking they would get freebies are the only ones to blame for this. Karma.

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It's not "thinking they'd get freebies". He was re-elected because Romney wanted to put social services back in the 30's and civil rights back in the 50's. Not to mention having a "secret plan" to fix the economy, which he wouldn't discuss unless he was elected.

It's a different world, a different America, and white men aren't in control anymore. It's much more diverse, and women have a bigger voice than ever before. Until the Republicans realize that, and stop patting minorities and women on the head while kicking them to the back of the bus, they'll keep losing elections and wondering what happened.

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Georgia is a Right to work State. You can be terminated for anything. They could fire all their Ugly People if they want to and its perfectly legal.

Employers in Georgia are not required by Law to give an employee a reason for termination. I don't like your car...Its got an Obama Sticker on it....Case Closed.

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Not in this case. You can't terminate someone in retaliation any more than you can terminate someone because of their race, religion or national origin.

There is a specific clause in the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act stating you can't fire someone in retaliation.
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wobbler1957 wrote:
It's not "thinking they'd get freebies". He was re-elected because Romney wanted to put social services back in the 30's and civil rights back in the 50's. Not to mention having a "secret plan" to fix the economy, which he wouldn't discuss unless he was elected.
It's a different world, a different America, and white men aren't in control anymore. It's much more diverse, and women have a bigger voice than ever before. Until the Republicans realize that, and stop patting minorities and women on the head while kicking them to the back of the bus, they'll keep losing elections and wondering what happened.
No one group is in "control" foolish one.
The pendulum swings in both directions, the further Obama pulls it to the left, the further it will go to the right when it's released, and it will be released.
If you think the left will always be in power after this election you are very naive or not too bright.
Recent history has shown US politics can change on a dime.

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Nov 14, 2012
 
We will see....Stay Tuned :)

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Anyone who thinks Obama is anything but a centrist is "very naive or not too bright".

And he has more in common with what used to be moderate Republicans than he has with Democrats.

The US was under the thumb of a right of center Republican party for so long that kept skewing more and more to the extreme right that you can't recognize a return to the center when you see it.

Oh, and Forbes calculated that the cost of a pizza at Papa John's would only increase 4 to 5 cents to pay for Obamacare. So that makes John Schnatter even more of an a$$hole.

Imagine that: Forbes, a right wing Republican outfit if there ever was one, calling another Republican out on being a penny-pinching miser who was taking losing the election out on his employees.

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