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“Mess with these Claws......”

Since: Oct 09

Carrollton, GA

#66 Dec 8, 2012
wobbler1957 wrote:

I don't go door to door forcing my beliefs on anyone,
I beg to differ. You may not actually go door to door but you definitely try your best to discredit the christian religious beliefs with all your "research". And, I do believe, demanding that others accommodate your beliefs with no displays IS shooving your beliefs down others throats. Say what you will about Christians and spin it any way you want but dear you are so guilty of doing exactly what you accuse others of.
aggravated again

Bremen, GA

#67 Dec 8, 2012
octoberK wrote:
<quoted text>I beg to differ. You may not actually go door to door but you definitely try your best to discredit the christian religious beliefs with all your "research". And, I do believe, demanding that others accommodate your beliefs with no displays IS shooving your beliefs down others throats. Say what you will about Christians and spin it any way you want but dear you are so guilty of doing exactly what you accuse others of.
I agree. Atheists seem to think that asking us not to pray, to not have "Christmas" parties, to not being able to express our religion is not forcing their beliefs down our throats.

Wobbler - By the way, you don't have to go to the door unless you are just looking for an argument. I don't open my door for salespeople or solicitations. You don't have to open your door either. As far as I know, my church does not do that unless someone submits a visitor's card to be visited at home or if you are part of the Congregation. I have seen flyers distributed to doors, but that's not much different that yard work advertisements or pizza coupons.

I have found it is better to approach someone with Christianity who comes to me freely with questions (and some have been unbelievers) rather than wearing it on my shoulder. It's easy to identify me as a Christian but I do not approach with religion unless I am approached first. And I am received well by unbelievers. I don't force anything down anyone's throat.

I have come on here and debated church and state, and I have discussed the freedom to worship publicly, but I have yet to send you to Hell. You know why? I am not God and He could work on you at some other point in your life. I can no way say that you are going to Hell because I don't know His path for you.

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#68 Dec 8, 2012
1. I'm not a miserable person. You only see what is on Topix. Most of y'all would drive a saint to drink.

2. I'm not one of the atheists demanding no religious displays, no praying, no Christmas parties. I don't care what you do in private, non-government property. I don't *like* religious displays on government property, but I don't do anything about it. I just ignore it.

3. Thanks for not consigning me to hell. That's more than several other "good Christians" have done here.

4. How is discussing my spiritual beliefs "forcing them down others' throats" yet talking about Christian beliefs and threatening me with hellfire and eternal damnation isn't? Bit of a double standard, isn't it?

5. I don't know why I keep on with this -- maybe because it's entertaining to see you all react just like Pavlov's dog when I ring the bell of Not Everyone Is A Christian. You're all so predictable.

“Mess with these Claws......”

Since: Oct 09

Carrollton, GA

#71 Dec 8, 2012
wobbler1957 wrote:
5. I don't know why I keep on with this -- maybe because it's entertaining to see you all react just like Pavlov's dog when I ring the bell of Not Everyone Is A Christian. You're all so predictable.
And you wonder why others stay on you. You always end your posts with some sort of snide remark and expect it to be the end of the conversation. SMH You are a pot stirrer indeed.
aggravated again

United States

#72 Dec 8, 2012
wobbler1957 wrote:
1. I'm not a miserable person. You only see what is on Topix. Most of y'all would drive a saint to drink.

2. I'm not one of the atheists demanding no religious displays, no praying, no Christmas parties. I don't care what you do in private, non-government property. I don't *like* religious displays on government property, but I don't do anything about it. I just ignore it.

3. Thanks for not consigning me to hell. That's more than several other "good Christians" have done here.

4. How is discussing my spiritual beliefs "forcing them down others' throats" yet talking about Christian beliefs and threatening me with hellfire and eternal damnation isn't? Bit of a double standard, isn't it?

5. I don't know why I keep on with this -- maybe because it's entertaining to see you all react just like Pavlov's dog when I ring the bell of Not Everyone Is A Christian. You're all so predictable.
I'm going to go with you for a minute. I am not a pushy Christian because I don't try to cram my beliefs down your throat. I will admit, I have seen some very aggressive Christians. Can you not also see our point though? I appreciate that you don't try to take away Christmas in schools, take away Santa, and you turn the other way when you see Christian references in a government place and don't raise a fuss about it. But you do know that there are some, right? And those seem just as pushy to us as those Christians knocking on your door?

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#73 Dec 8, 2012
Yes, I know there are strident atheists just like there are strident religious people.

I always tell strident atheists to tone it down, people have to come to their own spiritual truths on their own, in their own time, and all the stridency in the world won't get any of them anywhere any quicker.

I think the difference is that non-Christians are now standing up and asking for a little consideration, and the pushback by the Christians appears frantic and over-the-top. Seems to me that as long as no one is trying to regulate what you do in your own home or on private property, the Christian community should be able to let go of some of the more invasive religious appurtenances...

I look at it kind of like you have lived on your own for years, sitting around in the living room with no pants on and only washing dishes once a week. Now you have a roommate who doesn't want to see your underwear all the time and would like a clean dish on Wednesdays. So roommate wants you to moderate your behavior in the common areas.

Doesn't seem too out of bounds to me.
Wondering

Douglasville, GA

#76 Dec 12, 2012
God will assign those to hell who do not accept Jesus as their personal savior. What I are others think or say does not place anyone in hell. When you do true research you must look at all sides not just information that proves what you want to believe. If you are right it is not being pushy it is an attempt to tell everyone the GOOD NEWS even those who are adamantly opposed to it. Jesus came into the world not to condemn but that all the world could be saved(from themselves)

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#77 Dec 12, 2012
And there you go. Saying "God will" do so and so is just a passive-aggressive way of consigning anyone who doesn't believe the way YOU do to eternal hellfire and damnation.

Sorry, I can't believe in a supreme deity who would blithely send over half his supposed children to eternal torment because they never had the opportunity to become your particular brand of Christian.

That's just one of the many inconsistencies I began finding in religion of all sorts waaaaay back when I first started questioning. It's true research which led me to understand that atheism is the only thing that makes sense to me, along with some stuff from Buddhism.

(NB: I don't "worship" Buddha, but there are some of Gautama's teachings that I respect and have incorporated into my life. Hence, "delusions of Buddhism.")

And proselytizing of any sort, whether you call it being pushy or "sharing", is just offensive. Everyone comes to their own spiritual path on their own -- pushing your brand of spirituality only turns seekers off.

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#78 Dec 12, 2012
"When you do true research you must look at all sides not just information that proves what you want to believe."

This is important. Do you apply it to your own spiritual beliefs?
Wondering

Douglasville, GA

#79 Dec 12, 2012
YES, I do. In fact I am constantly questioning everything that I hear and read and when I research I look at all sides and come to a decision with an open mind. If you will allow me to comment on God. God is not consigning anyone including you to hell. Every opportunity is open to you and others across the world to become a believer in the only path to eternal life. I wish the fate of hell on no one and would never tell anyone where their eternal residence might be. Thorough studying of the Bible will tell you where individuals end up who refuse to believe. I urge you to consider Jesus Christ and when you choose Jesus to be as strong in that belief as you are in what you believe right now.

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#80 Dec 12, 2012
Thorough study of the bible is one of the things that led me to atheism. The pettishness of your god is astounding, and I could never venerate such a being.
Wondering

Douglasville, GA

#81 Dec 12, 2012
You must be talking about many of the events that occur in the Old Testament. You might have noticed that these were things that were brought on by the people themselves. When God created mankind he gave us free will. He also gave us consequences for our actions. This is exactly a parent child relationship. When mankind strayed punishment was forthcoming, which is still the case today. A great website that answers all of these questions is http://www.gotquestions.org/ I use it frequently for questions that occur in my walk with Jesus.

Since: Jun 08

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#83 Dec 13, 2012
Jesus, Mary and Joseph People.... This Thread was about Christmas decorations downtown...Hijackers :(

“Mess with these Claws......”

Since: Oct 09

Carrollton, GA

#85 Dec 13, 2012
Bill in Clayton County wrote:
Jesus, Mary and Joseph People.... This Thread was about Christmas decorations downtown...Hijackers :(
Btw, they do look a little shabby on the main street. It looks like our towns leaders just do not care what it looks like. I am sure there are funds set aside from taxes collected for downtown beautification. It doesn't cost that much to buy decent lights and decorations(Walmart, Dollar General). I am not broke after decorating.
Wondering

Douglasville, GA

#86 Dec 13, 2012
Anyway shape or form talking about Jesus is something that has to be done.
Bremen Mom

Douglasville, GA

#87 Dec 18, 2012
Bigger, better Christmas lights would be splendid. However, I think I would rather have Georgia Avenue and some of the roads in Bremen resurfaced before money is spent on Christmas decor and lights. My poor vehicle is feeling the wear and tear of all the pot holes and such in Bremen that really need to be resurfaced. Surely there is a grant or some other kind of help for problems such as city roads.

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