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misticosombrero

Cedartown, GA

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Jan 12, 2013
 
people who are not 1st repsonders (police, emt's, etc.) that listen to scanners are weird.

from the voting shown below in the ctown/rkmart papers as a result that scanner frequencies will now be encrypted and not available to the public has a few scanner-addicts going into withdrawals.

What do you think about the new radio system used by emergency services?

45% I don't like it, the public should be able to listen to the scanners

32% I like it, I think it will be safer

14% I don't think it matters

9% I'm not sure

The Fish Wrap of Cedartown and Rockmart, GA.
someone

Villa Rica, GA

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Jan 12, 2013
 
misticosombrero wrote:
people who are not 1st repsonders (police, emt's, etc.) that listen to scanners are weird.

from the voting shown below in the ctown/rkmart papers as a result that scanner frequencies will now be encrypted and not available to the public has a few scanner-addicts going into withdrawals.

What do you think about the new radio system used by emergency services?

45% I don't like it, the public should be able to listen to the scanners

32% I like it, I think it will be safer

14% I don't think it matters

9% I'm not sure

The Fish Wrap of Cedartown and Rockmart, GA.
First responders are the only ones that have any business listening to scanners. I'm glad they are encrypting them.
First responder

Temple, GA

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Jan 12, 2013
 
Shoulda did it years ago
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Villa Rica, GA

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Jan 12, 2013
 
That is something I would happily want to see my tax dollars helping fund.
misticosombrero

Cedartown, GA

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Jan 13, 2013
 
Stuxnet wrote:
Listening to Cell phone calls in the 800mhz bands is illegal yet most novice listeners can pick up the harmonic frequencies of the cell signals and listen away, the rabid listeners can get their scanners unlocked by those in the know.
The same with the so-called emergency frequency encryption, it can be easily decrypted.
The same with the newer cordless phone encryption, easily defeated.
The way I see it it, if you don't want me to listen or monitor your radio or data signals, then keep them out of my house.
as i said....weired.....very weired.

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Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

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Jan 13, 2013
 

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A lot of shut-ins enjoy being able to listen on scanners, it makes them feel part of the community. News reporters listen to scanners, so they can know when something's going down and be able to report on it.

I don't personally listen to scanners, but I can see the attraction of it.
grey fox

Powder Springs, GA

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#8
Jan 14, 2013
 
stux , i thought cell phone calls we're in the 600 mhz cycle and already againt the law? I personally don't wanna hear phone call , but i do like scanners , i have a cloned grecom 600 which is digital trunking . And yes if it's transmitted , i can hear it . So you can call me weeeiird if you wan't , i dont care .
grey fox

Powder Springs, GA

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#9
Jan 14, 2013
 
so ya'll,not you .

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#10
Jan 14, 2013
 
I have a top of the line scanner in my truck. I have been caught in monster traffic jams because of accidents and used it to get off the highway and re-route around the obstacle. I normally program State Police and Trooper Frequencies along my route when pulling my fifth wheel. It just makes sense. Nothing weird about that.

My electronics guru in Atlanta has already told me that there is a new chip out that will fit in my unit that will decrypt all of the encryption that is scheduled to go online for 95% of the proposed frequencies that will be covered.
misticosombrero

Cedartown, GA

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Jan 14, 2013
 
Bill in Clayton County wrote:
I have a top of the line scanner in my truck. I have been caught in monster traffic jams because of accidents and used it to get off the highway and re-route around the obstacle. I normally program State Police and Trooper Frequencies along my route when pulling my fifth wheel. It just makes sense. Nothing weird about that.
My electronics guru in Atlanta has already told me that there is a new chip out that will fit in my unit that will decrypt all of the encryption that is scheduled to go online for 95% of the proposed frequencies that will be covered.
mr bill, i must admit that's a good use (re-routing around traffic), BUT, your scenario begs the obervations of -1-"IF" there is an accident,-2-traffic snarls usually are worst in bigger cities so having a scanner for that purpose in a rural county isn't as advantageous, and,-3-"if" you're in Atlanta or a large city and there is a wreck and "IF" there is an alternate route, just turn on your radio....there will be many, many radio stations reporting it.

and finally, that's what GSP systems are for!

i lived in major cities for over 25 years....NEVER had a CB, NEVER had a scanner, NEVER missed an appointment EVEN with wrecks as I could turn on the radio....and now I can use my GSP....no scanner or radio needed.

so if people are going to the expense of 'unencrypting' encrypted scanner frequencies...i say, weird!
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Atlanta, GA

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Jan 14, 2013
 
If your not on duty, there is no need for anyone to be listening. Anybody else has no business listening. There is no way you can justify it. If the public needs to know something, they will be advised. End of story

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Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

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Jan 14, 2013
 

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MS, if you don't like scanners, CBs and the like, then don't use them. That's your perogative.

It's NOT your perogative to call those who do use them "weird" or otherwise denigrate them. Some people don't approve of or trust GPS (note that's "GPS", not "GSP", unless you have the Georgia State Patrol leading you everywhere)-- I've never gotten decent directions from one; how would you like it if someone starting calling you "weird" for using one?

I had a CB back in the 70's, driving from Pace to Pensacola FL, and it was not only helpful for avoiding wrecks, truckers liked chit-chatting too.

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

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Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

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Jan 14, 2013
 
First Responer: who decides what the public "needs to know? Suppose there's a major hazardous spill that endangers lives but some politician decides it's best if it's kept under wraps, and thanks to closed channels on radios, no news outlets know and no scanner listeners know?

Nope, keep the airwaves free. It's a slippery slope when you start saying some restriction is in place because no one else needs to know...
msticosombrero

Cedartown, GA

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Jan 14, 2013
 
wobbler1957 wrote:
First Responer: who decides what the public "needs to know? Suppose there's a major hazardous spill that endangers lives but some politician decides it's best if it's kept under wraps, and thanks to closed channels on radios, no news outlets know and no scanner listeners know?
Nope, keep the airwaves free. It's a slippery slope when you start saying some restriction is in place because no one else needs to know...
wobby...do you know that scanners are now encrypted and virtually useless? obviously not, by your response. THAT's why those that have had them are a bt upset now.

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#16
Jan 14, 2013
 
Like I said, I don't do scanners. No clue as to whether they're encrypted or not.

I'm just taking exception to your judgementalism and FR's need-to-know position.
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Americus, GA

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Jan 14, 2013
 
wobbler1957 wrote:
First Responer: who decides what the public "needs to know? Suppose there's a major hazardous spill that endangers lives but some politician decides it's best if it's kept under wraps, and thanks to closed channels on radios, no news outlets know and no scanner listeners know?
Nope, keep the airwaves free. It's a slippery slope when you start saying some restriction is in place because no one else needs to know...
first responders Are trained to handle situations such as these. Civilins are not, that's why they pay us to worry with it. Sometimes it's best the public not know, because they will panic and it could lead to mass chaos.

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Not all civilians are untrained or unknowledgeable, you know. Just because we don't work in a health care field doesn't mean we wouldn't know what to do in an emergency.

And people in general don't panic -- most folks have decent common sense.

I just don't like the phrase "need to know", because that implies someone else is making a decision that should be mine to make. If I don't want to know something, I'll say so, thanks awfully. But if something is happening in my neighborhood that could affect my health/safety or that of my family, then I believe I DO have the "need to know."
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wobbler1957 wrote:
Not all civilians are untrained or unknowledgeable, you know. Just because we don't work in a health care field doesn't mean we wouldn't know what to do in an emergency.
And people in general don't panic -- most folks have decent common sense.
I just don't like the phrase "need to know", because that implies someone else is making a decision that should be mine to make. If I don't want to know something, I'll say so, thanks awfully. But if something is happening in my neighborhood that could affect my health/safety or that of my family, then I believe I DO have the "need to know."
People in general do panic, I have seen it first hand, if something was happening in your neighborhood that you "needed to know" you would know. The main reason people in this area have scanners is so they can chase ambulances and fire trucks. I will agree with you that some things a scanner would be good for, but for the other 95% of radio traffic, the public should not be able to hear.
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First Responder wrote:
<quoted text>People in general do panic, I have seen it first hand, if something was happening in your neighborhood that you "needed to know" you would know. The main reason people in this area have scanners is so they can chase ambulances and fire trucks. I will agree with you that some things a scanner would be good for, but for the other 95% of radio traffic, the public should not be able to hear.
They also post it all over social media to make themselves seem like they are in the know when it really just makes them look like a nosey ass.

Wobb, some people may know what to do in an emergency, but they don't necessarily have the proper equipment,meds,etc. needed.
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Powder Springs, GA

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#21
Jan 15, 2013
 
I guess your the new joseph goebbells of propaganda, "need to know basis ".THE TAX PAYER PAYS FOR THE RADIO'S YOU SPEAK ON FR.!! If we wan't to know whats going on the radio , we have the damned right ot have a scanner .If it wasn't for US you would'nt have a job as FIRST responder . Get your head out of your ass obama .

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