Crazy Registered Nurse

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#42 Jan 4, 2013
It's "killing", I'll grant you that, but murder? Nope.

I'm not going to get into the whole abortion issue with you, since neither one of us will change their minds. Besides, it has nothing to do with the topic.

BTW, "abortion" isn't a "soft" term. That's what "termination of pregnancy" is. Abortion is the technical, medical term for ending a pregnancy before it comes to full term.
misticosombrero

Cedartown, GA

#43 Jan 5, 2013
wobbler1957 wrote:
It's "killing", I'll grant you that, but murder? Nope.
I'm not going to get into the whole abortion issue with you, since neither one of us will change their minds. Besides, it has nothing to do with the topic.
BTW, "abortion" isn't a "soft" term. That's what "termination of pregnancy" is. Abortion is the technical, medical term for ending a pregnancy before it comes to full term.
wobby...i do not need you to give me english lessons; you don't wear arrogance well at all.

i reiterate; abortion IS a soft-term for 'killing' babies (or as i stated, murdering babies).

sort of like calling the 'murderers''killing' in the name of islam,'terroists'....they aren't terrorists, they are murderers.

btw, wobby, would you approve of your daughter murdering your grandchildren...or maybe just one of them? given your logic, it's her 'right'.

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#44 Jan 5, 2013
I don't have a daughter, I have a son. But if I did have a daughter, it would be her decision -- she would know her own situation best.

And if I had a minor daughter who turned up pregnant, I'd try my best to get her to have an abortion -- nothing cuts a young woman's dreams down like an unplanned pregnancy.

If she was an adult, it's her body, her pregnancy, her decision.

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#45 Jan 5, 2013
Re: "abortion" being as soft term for "killing" --

Sooooo... contagious abortion in milk cows is actually contagious killing? When women miscarry, it's called a spontaneous abortion -- does this mean it's really a spontaneous killing? Or is it spontaneous murder?

Murder can't occur unless the person is an independent entity -- embryos and fetii are not independent entities. My cut off for abortion is whether the fetus could live outside the womb -- if it can, it's murder. If not, it's not.

Say, what about all the pregnancies that occur yet don't implant, whether due to birth control pills or an IUD? Is that killing or murder? What about the ones that don't implant because they just don't -- is that killing or murder?

What about all the sperm that are blocked by condoms or a diaphragm? Is that killing or murder?

What about hysterectomies and ovariectomies -- there are thousands of eggs in those ovaries, and the uterus provides a fertilized egg a place to implant and grow. If a woman has her uterus and/or ovaries removed, has she killed or murdered all those potential children?

I'm really curious as to how far you'll take this.
Nurse chaser

Loganville, GA

#46 Jan 5, 2013
I'm still interested! Lets practice getting pregnant while these other idiots are arguing about pregnancy.
frank

Marietta, GA

#47 Jan 6, 2013
I love nurses.. they care for you.I had a sore back, she made love to me then rubbed my back.
misticosombrero

Cedartown, GA

#48 Jan 6, 2013
wobbler1957 wrote:
I don't have a daughter, I have a son. But if I did have a daughter, it would be her decision -- she would know her own situation best.
And if I had a minor daughter who turned up pregnant, I'd try my best to get her to have an abortion -- nothing cuts a young woman's dreams down like an unplanned pregnancy.
If she was an adult, it's her body, her pregnancy, her decision.
what about the "dreams" of the baby? whose looking out for them?
misticosombrero

Cedartown, GA

#49 Jan 6, 2013
wobbler1957 wrote:
I don't have a daughter, I have a son. But if I did have a daughter, it would be her decision -- she would know her own situation best.
And if I had a minor daughter who turned up pregnant, I'd try my best to get her to have an abortion -- nothing cuts a young woman's dreams down like an unplanned pregnancy.
If she was an adult, it's her body, her pregnancy, her decision.
what if your son wanted the child, and you the grand-child, but you're daugther-in-law decided to 'KILL' YOUR GRANCHILD....you ok with that, too? in other words, the child is "WANTED" by you, your son, your husband, and MAYBE EVEN the girl's parents (the other set of grandparents)...but she (the daughter) kills the baby.
misticosombrero

Cedartown, GA

#50 Jan 6, 2013
wobbler1957 wrote:
Re: "abortion" being as soft term for "killing" --
Sooooo... contagious abortion in milk cows is actually contagious killing? When women miscarry, it's called a spontaneous abortion -- does this mean it's really a spontaneous killing? Or is it spontaneous murder?
Murder can't occur unless the person is an independent entity -- embryos and fetii are not independent entities. My cut off for abortion is whether the fetus could live outside the womb -- if it can, it's murder. If not, it's not.
Say, what about all the pregnancies that occur yet don't implant, whether due to birth control pills or an IUD? Is that killing or murder? What about the ones that don't implant because they just don't -- is that killing or murder?
What about all the sperm that are blocked by condoms or a diaphragm? Is that killing or murder?
What about hysterectomies and ovariectomies -- there are thousands of eggs in those ovaries, and the uterus provides a fertilized egg a place to implant and grow. If a woman has her uterus and/or ovaries removed, has she killed or murdered all those potential children?
I'm really curious as to how far you'll take this.
you are grabbing for straws, wobby....just as i expected.

but i will addrress 1 point in your babbling post above..."YOUR" "CUT-OFF" point for an independent entity is the notion whether a baby can live outside the womb or not........but YOU DO CONCEDE THE BABY IS LIVING........just living inside the womb. one can conclude then, that you condone 'killing' a living human being.

there is no agreement between us on this, and there never will be i suppose.

for clarification, then, my position is simply this......i believe that life begins at the point of conception...that a baby-is-a-baby at that point...THEN the DECISION to kill/murder/'abort' a baby is one that can be made by the mother alone, or the mother and father together...it's her or their choice. i agree all humans have 'free-will' to make a choices every day of their lives; small choices, big choices. in 'choosing' to let a baby live or not?...'either way has LIFE-LONG implications and consequences for those individuals (not to mention the LIFE of the Baby that was "taken").
misticosombrero

Cedartown, GA

#51 Jan 6, 2013
wobbler1957 wrote:
Re: "abortion" being as soft term for "killing" --
Sooooo... contagious abortion in milk cows is actually contagious killing? When women miscarry, it's called a spontaneous abortion -- does this mean it's really a spontaneous killing? Or is it spontaneous murder?
Murder can't occur unless the person is an independent entity -- embryos and fetii are not independent entities. My cut off for abortion is whether the fetus could live outside the womb -- if it can, it's murder. If not, it's not.
Say, what about all the pregnancies that occur yet don't implant, whether due to birth control pills or an IUD? Is that killing or murder? What about the ones that don't implant because they just don't -- is that killing or murder?
What about all the sperm that are blocked by condoms or a diaphragm? Is that killing or murder?
What about hysterectomies and ovariectomies -- there are thousands of eggs in those ovaries, and the uterus provides a fertilized egg a place to implant and grow. If a woman has her uterus and/or ovaries removed, has she killed or murdered all those potential children?
I'm really curious as to how far you'll take this.
arguing with 'wobbler' is..........like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end'!!!

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#52 Jan 6, 2013
I'm sure you have a lot of experience in that.

If a woman does NOT want to bear a child, then there is no one who has the right to tell her otherwise.

End of discussion.

And again, if life begins at conception, and a woman is using birth control or an IUD, then is it killing/murder when the conceptus doesn't implant? What about a conceptus that doesn't implant in an "open" uterus -- is that killing/murder?

And the "dream" of a baby is not a real, actual, living child. Those that have already been born. I care more about those children than these undifferentiated clumps of cells you're sanctimoniously calling "babies".

Like I said, there's no convincing anyone on either side of the abortion issue. So let's just stop while we're ahead.
misticosombrero

Cedartown, GA

#53 Jan 7, 2013
wobbler1957 wrote:
I care more about those children than these undifferentiated clumps of cells you're sanctimoniously calling "babies".
"undifferentiated clumps of cells".

wow....your choice of words is beyond the pale....unbelievable.
Johnny

United States

#54 Jan 7, 2013
If a woman does not want to bear a child, she should not have had sex to begin with.
frank

Carrollton, GA

#55 Jan 7, 2013
will crazy nurse give it up?
seriously

Carrollton, GA

#56 Jan 7, 2013
Wobbler,for someone that knows everything you should be rich!Damn you know some things you must of been a valedictorian back long,long,long,ago..
Desperate for Answers

Villa Rica, GA

#57 Jan 17, 2013
wobbler1957 wrote:
You never know -- it could really be someone who doesn't have a clue that leaving minor children home alone all night long is A Bad Thing.
I figure I did a public service -- if he/she is a troll, so be it, but maybe someone else read what I said and will change their ways.
Actually Wobbler, you are the only one who believes me it seems. I did lie about 2 things though. I live in Bremen, not Villa Rica and I work in Carrollton, night shift, not Hiram. So there to everyone else who wants to know. I thought it was legal to leave kids alone when they were 10 years old. I do have a 15 year old that looks after my 10 year old. Isn't that "old enough?"
Just start calling me Curly Sue for the ones of you who are thrown off by the name changes.

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#58 Jan 17, 2013
40 years ago a 15 year old watching a 10 year old until the parents got home from work would have been alright. Even now a 15 year old babysitting while parents are out for an evening is ok, assuming you get home by midnight or so.

But leaving your kids on their own until you get home at 3 am or later? No, that's not alright.

If something were to happen and the authorities got involved, those kids will be in DFACS' hands so fast your head will spin.

I suggest you get a responsible adult to watch them while you're at work or get on the day shift, and get someone to watch them when you go out partying.

You are not being a responsible parent.
misticosombrero

Cedartown, GA

#59 Jan 20, 2013
just think, wobby, you were once an "undifferentiated clump of cells" (as you so callously call babies after conception).
O me

Carrollton, GA

#60 Jan 20, 2013
Damn Wobb, People attack you almost as hard as they get on 04's case. Glad you have thick skin.

“Get off my lawn”

Since: Jul 10

Bremen, GA

#61 Jan 21, 2013
MS, I sure was. So were you. So was every single living thing on this planet.

Didn't you take biology in high school? Go look up conception on Wikipedia -- I'm too tired this AM to be your teacher today.

OM: It's fear that makes them do it.

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