BREAKING NEWS: AHS band director arre...

BREAKING NEWS: AHS band director arrested

There are 881 comments on the Alamogordo Daily News story from Feb 23, 2011, titled BREAKING NEWS: AHS band director arrested. In it, Alamogordo Daily News reports that:

The Alamogordo Department of Public Safety has arrested a 30-year-old man accused of having a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old female high school student.

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Shut up

Alamogordo, NM

#345 Feb 24, 2011
kpup wrote:
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Wow, the if you don't like it move somewhere else mentality.
How do you know if I know him or not. You make a lot of assumptions.
Aren't you making assumptions about him? If you really knew him, then you would know the girl who did it. And you would also know that the BAND is the one hurting right now. If you really knew him you would know that everyone was close to him. Everyone looked up to him. Everyone respected him. Think about how they feel and what their going though right now. THEY are the ones taking the biggest hit right now.
Amazed

Tularosa, NM

#346 Feb 24, 2011
Band Mom in Alamogordo wrote:
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The band wasn't talking bad about the football team, THE OTHER TEAM MEMBERS WERE. Mr. Hale taught these kids that they shouldn't be arrogant about their positions. Yes, they could be proud of what they were and where they stood, but they were not to bash anyone else. Get a grip, you have no idea what kind of person Mr. Hale was and you don't know anything about what these band kids are going through. They are hurting, disappointed, confused, and they are lost......leave them alone.....the BAND STUDENTS did nothing wrong.
I was actually referring more to the band parents not the students. You are right I dont know what Mr Hale was, but what he is, has been made very public. lol And as far as "bashing" anyone, please refer to your comment where you seem to be bashing "the girl".
Shut up

Alamogordo, NM

#347 Feb 24, 2011
Amazed wrote:
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So if someone 30 years old diddled your underage child, would it be ok? You sure seem to have passed judgement on "the girl".
If you knew "the girl" Then you would know what she's talking about. And right now your passing judgment on Mr. Hale and "the girl".
at band camp

United States

#348 Feb 24, 2011
A few nights, days, lunch hours at band camp....!
We should use some of those hollywood tax credits before the governor takes them away to make a Liftime movie about this saga! Will she wait for him and have his babies after he gets out of prison? Pricless TV opportunity here folks!
not surprised

Columbus, OH

#349 Feb 24, 2011
rcer wrote:
What does a grown man see in a high school student?
He's 30. Hardly grown up! have you seen the way girls dress nowadays? Thats why!!!
It is not just how they dress it is everything in todays society that says everything young people do is ok. Sex is VERY casual...whose job is it to teach our girls good personal values and help them develope healthy self esteem and self respect? That's right...us as parents. We are so concerned that they wont have good self esteem that parents wont step up and say "this is not acceptable" about anything! What they wear, how they act, who their friends are..NOTHING! Should he be held accountable...of course. But I sure hope the courts consider that there were two participants...there is not ALWAYS a "victim" in these cases.
Shut up

Alamogordo, NM

#350 Feb 24, 2011
Embarrassment wrote:
LOL, Isn't that what was said about our football team this past season by you band people?
Anyway, you are missing the point about this thing. If it happened, she is seventeen and apparently didnt say no, so you could argue that it was consentual but regardless, he is in a position of AUTHORITY over her and it wouldn't matter if she was over eighteen or not because of that by itself.
YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT! The band has more respect for people. And here you are targeting BAND STUDENTS! Who did nothing wrong! Right now the Band students need support from people not people tearing them now! So you know what? STOP BEING IGNORANT YOU SELFISH LOW LIFE!!!
Shut up

Alamogordo, NM

#351 Feb 24, 2011
Amazed wrote:
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I was actually referring more to the band parents not the students. You are right I dont know what Mr Hale was, but what he is, has been made very public. lol And as far as "bashing" anyone, please refer to your comment where you seem to be bashing "the girl".
Do you hear yourself right now?!?! YOU ARE SO F****** IGNORANT! People like you piss me off! Wanna know why? Because you think your better then everyone else! And you know what?!?!? YOUR NOT!!!! So get a grip!! You wanna talk about "bashing" people. LOOK WHAT YOUR DOING RIGHT NOW!!
mommyof3

Albuquerque, NM

#352 Feb 24, 2011
Ok First of all.... this girl is 17 years old...old enough to know right from wrong old enough to know what she was doing so why is it that he's the only one getting in trouble for this...ummm...BS. Its not that I'm saying its ok for an older man to be with a younger girl but she knew what she was doing...I was 16 when i was with my 24 year old boyfriend and i knew what I was doing. I have a daughter and if this ever happens to her I'm not saying I wouldn't be pissed but still she would be in trouble as well. Both parties need to be in trouble not just him.
Learn idio

Las Cruces, NM

#353 Feb 24, 2011
Sarah P wrote:
<quoted text>Wasn't Mr. Young involved in a similar situation when he was here before? This should be investigated before we put other students in harm's way.
Mr. Young built that band program to the premier program in the state while he was there. It was after him, I'll leave out the name, that this same situation occurred. You damn well better check yourself before slandering Mr. Young. He has saved countless programs in the southwest and does it willingly. You have no education on this matter and you should be ashamed of your false accusations. And now you have poisoned the minds of these students and where will the rumors go from here? This is unreal....Sarah P you are a fool
Raquel Sarza

Ivins, UT

#354 Feb 24, 2011
Problem is the School Unions hide the many situations or even ignore current/future school employees about their criminal pasts. Also, other times is the students themselves using teachers/school administrators to get what they want & sometimes falsly accusing school officials of wrong doing.
MommaZ wrote:
Considering the number of these types of problems that have been reported in our greater community's school systems, I am surprised that APS has not been sued for not providing a safe environment, doing the proper background checks, etc.
Amazed

Tularosa, NM

#355 Feb 24, 2011
Shut up wrote:
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If you knew "the girl" Then you would know what she's talking about. And right now your passing judgment on Mr. Hale and "the girl".
My only judgement of the girl is that she is the underage juvenile. My judgement of Mr Hale is that he took advantage of his position.
Amazed

Tularosa, NM

#356 Feb 24, 2011
Shut up wrote:
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Do you hear yourself right now?!?! YOU ARE SO F****** IGNORANT! People like you **** me off! Wanna know why? Because you think your better then everyone else! And you know what?!?!? YOUR NOT!!!! So get a grip!! You wanna talk about "bashing" people. LOOK WHAT YOUR DOING RIGHT NOW!!
You are griping about who I am "bashing"? Look at who you are protecting!!! And I am a low life? You are too damn funny. lol
Amazed

Tularosa, NM

#357 Feb 24, 2011
Shut up wrote:
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YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT! The band has more respect for people. And here you are targeting BAND STUDENTS! Who did nothing wrong! Right now the Band students need support from people not people tearing them now! So you know what? STOP BEING IGNORANT YOU SELFISH LOW LIFE!!!
Actually I wasnt targeting the students at all but i do see how it can be read that way. I am actually targeting the band parents, which is what i should have stated. More specifically, the band parents that talk trash about the athletic program. Get your facts straight and read what i wrote over and over again until you finally ralize that I said absolutely NOTHING about the students.
By the way, since you seem so passionate about this, is Mr Hale a good enough man that you will invite him over for dinner after he gets out of prison? Maybe seat him next to YOUR seventeen year old daughter(if you have one)?
Kim

Alamogordo, NM

#358 Feb 24, 2011
TO "Unacceptable":
I don't have a child in high school and I don't know who the girl is. I DO know that your post TOLD most people who she is by telling what position she holds. PLEASE REMOVE THAT POST.
TO anyone who responded to UNACCEPTABLE:
His post is showing on your post. Please delete. This girl will be going through enough as it is. It's better that people don't know her name. I still don't know...nor do I want to. It isn't my business.
THANK YOU.
Band Sister

Muskegon, MI

#360 Feb 24, 2011
"Amazed" brings up a point that few have.

The point they're going to pursue in court is that he took advantage of the situation. Whether or not he did plan it, the problem is that we have to assume that he manipulated the situation because he was in a position of power over her. His having sex with her meant that he had power over her academically and socially. It's going to look like coercion.

Really, sad. I can't imagine this particular guy ever doing that purposefully. And maybe she was the one manipulating the situation, not that innocent, etc. It really doesn't matter, because most cases like this are decided similarly across the board.

My mother-in-law works in a school system in another state. She said the three times she's seen this, they didn't pursue criminal charges; they just dismissed them from the system. I wonder how this will go over in NM.
Lol

United States

#361 Feb 24, 2011
Lol
Just have to say

Alamogordo, NM

#362 Feb 24, 2011
Amazed wrote:
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Actually I wasnt targeting the students at all but i do see how it can be read that way. I am actually targeting the band parents, which is what i should have stated. More specifically, the band parents that talk trash about the athletic program. Get your facts straight and read what i wrote over and over again until you finally ralize that I said absolutely NOTHING about the students.
By the way, since you seem so passionate about this, is Mr Hale a good enough man that you will invite him over for dinner after he gets out of prison? Maybe seat him next to YOUR seventeen year old daughter(if you have one)?
This entire statement is absolutely brilliant.

Those band parents who have that holier than thou attitude toward any other program, how do you like your main man now? Sure you can talk all you want about his music instruction, and how he turned around this program. Doesn't mean a hill of beans when he has no character, no moral ethics, and is the dumbest son of a b**** ever.

I just sit back and wonder, how this band director is feeling now. Sitting in his jail cell, realizing that his future is bleak.(although I heard he posted bail) That everyone in this community knows what a piece of slime he is and what he has done. Knows that he does not have the right to be arrogant to anyone ever again. Ruined lives, all because he was not MAN ENOUGH to be adult enough to do the right thing for this student.
Donkey butt

Alamogordo, NM

#363 Feb 24, 2011
I am Sick wrote:
I am a for flute student of his from my days in NMSU basketball pep band. This guy was a loser. A freak. A swinger. Had girls turning tricks for him in his car. These were college girls and cougars. This?? This is sick/
you need to stop you are too damn funny, i'm overhere crying and laughing right now Lol
Donkey butt

Alamogordo, NM

#364 Feb 24, 2011
at band camp wrote:
A few nights, days, lunch hours at band camp....!
We should use some of those hollywood tax credits before the governor takes them away to make a Liftime movie about this saga! Will she wait for him and have his babies after he gets out of prison? Pricless TV opportunity here folks!
now that would be some s*** right ther you craking me up too, the whole school would be embarrased if they made a movie about this they'd problalby be unaccurated and stereotypical
LMAO

Alamogordo, NM

#365 Feb 24, 2011
Every kid should just consider going to the alt school, suprising enough we dont get with our teachers or have teachers that buy us alcohol. Soooo whos the bad school now?

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