Nun may wear habit at fatal-crash trial

Nun may wear habit at fatal-crash trial

There are 36 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from May 15, 2009, titled Nun may wear habit at fatal-crash trial. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

A Kane County judge ruled Friday that a nun can wear her habit when she goes on trial next week on a traffic violation charge stemming from a fatal accident.

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greenmansf

Temperance, MI

#22 May 16, 2009
Running a red light is a willful act. Yes it is. Red light means stop. If you don't stop, you willfully break the law. She killed a young child of 16 years. She also broke the law while killing that child if she ran the red light, which prosecutors will have to prove at trial. She is not excused from killing someone because she is a religious person. Her religion has no bearing on this civil trial about the death of a 16 year old child. Running a red light is never an accident, it is breaking the law.
Juan wrote:
The charge is running a red light? It was an accident. A fatal accident that no one feels should have happened. An accident that showed no one was intoxicated, willfully negligent or out of control. It was an accident. THE ENTIRE CASE IS IF THE LIGHTS WERE WORKING PROPERLY. These Nuns only help people and if this occurred because the Nun ran a red light, it still was an accident. She has to live with this every day of her life. How can she do or give more to her work for God then she already does?
mpc

Chicago, IL

#23 May 16, 2009
This is horse pucky! The only reason the prosecutor wants the nun to not wear her habit when she testifies is because he knows that it will greatly decrease his chances of getting a conviction. Who’s going find a nun in full habit guilty? If the prosecutor claims that she’s lying, who would believe it? In the same situation, however, would the prosecutor ask a Muslim woman to remove her hijab or an Orthodox Jewish man to remove his yarmulke? No. It would be deemed as immaterial--a piece of religious garb with no meaning in the court. Moreover, there would be an outrage if the prosecutor made such a demand. As an atheist and firm believer in the separation of church and state, this is an example of the state attempting to overstep its boundary and for very self-serving purposes at that
Sam

Chicago, IL

#24 May 16, 2009
The difference is a Christian nun has never been known to carry a bomb under their apparel, ever!

Muslim women have.

That is a big big difference.
thingy

Terre Haute, IN

#25 May 16, 2009
greenmansf wrote:
Running a red light is a willful act. Yes it is. Red light means stop. If you don't stop, you willfully break the law. She killed a young child of 16 years. She also broke the law while killing that child if she ran the red light, which prosecutors will have to prove at trial. She is not excused from killing someone because she is a religious person. Her religion has no bearing on this civil trial about the death of a 16 year old child. Running a red light is never an accident, it is breaking the law. <quoted text>
Whoa. She did not intentionally run a red light, or intend to willfully kill anyone.
It was a terrible accident.
Her punishment will be, to never forget that instant, or take it back.
It is just a horrible tragedy.
Why Cry Now

AOL

#26 May 16, 2009
Your Honor, the defense is attempting
to taint the jury pool.
If the judge let's her wear her "habit" to her arraigment it could
set a disturbing precedent.
miguel

Algonquin, IL

#27 May 19, 2009
I can't understand why a nun would lie. I feel bad for the family .
fry the nun

AOL

#28 May 20, 2009
Name Them wrote:
These dirty prosecutors were ready to strip a nun of her clothes. They'll stop at nothing to come out on top.
Yes, the defendant is a bride of Christ. If that sways the jury, so be it.
Maybe this b$tch should say sorry to the famlies?
yeah she didn't even say sorry, maybe this b$tch should read her bible thy shall not kill!
fry the nun

AOL

#29 May 20, 2009
thingy wrote:
<quoted text>Whoa. She did not intentionally run a red light, or intend to willfully kill anyone.
It was a terrible accident.
Her punishment will be, to never forget that instant, or take it back.
It is just a horrible tragedy.
she has shown no remorse she was happy and all smiles in court WTF
fry the nun

AOL

#30 May 20, 2009
Reverend Dewey Cox wrote:
France or no France, English speaking or not, the family must follow the American way and file a law suit. Just imagine how much they will get from a nun that takes a vow of poverty, amongst other things.
WE WOULD SETTLE FOR DEPORTED!
Zoe

Crystal Lake, IL

#31 May 20, 2009
If you want to get technical about breaking the law, the teenager was out past curfew with no adult supervision and with more than one passenger in the car with her. Because of these facts, her license was technically invalid when this accident happened. I think they are both at fault.
greenmansf wrote:
Running a red light is a willful act. Yes it is. Red light means stop. If you don't stop, you willfully break the law. She killed a young child of 16 years. She also broke the law while killing that child if she ran the red light, which prosecutors will have to prove at trial. She is not excused from killing someone because she is a religious person. Her religion has no bearing on this civil trial about the death of a 16 year old child. Running a red light is never an accident, it is breaking the law. <quoted text>
Alexis

Redmond, WA

#32 May 20, 2009
Okay first off for all of you who say this nun is innocent and deserves to walk, I respect your opinion. I am Alexis Pena, the driver of the vehicle Keith Forbes died in. All of you can sit and say I'm in the wrong and you know what I really don't care. I know, Keith knows, Simon knows, and Jamison knows the truth. Even Marie Marot knows that she is the one who ran the red light. My family is behind me and so is Keith's family and the families of the two other kids. For those of you who do support me I thank you so much, this trial I felt, was unfair but you know what? It doesn't matter if winning a case like this makes her look better then okay. But, she has to live with herself killing a bright, intelligent, loving, great friend of mine. If you don't know the whole story don't spread rumors because I know that I didn't run that light and so does everyone else. I'll let you all think she's innocent. None of you understand what I've had to go through for the past year and a half. After this accident my life has changed so much. I just want justice to be found because I know she ran the red light I was there, she took my best friends life away. I wasn't doing anything wrong, except for the curfew and more than one person in the car, other than that I followed the rules. I will not allow anyone to accuse me of my best friends death. And correction for everyone I was not even partying, we didn't even get to go anywhere because by the time I picked up everyone one of them wanted to go home, and also, I never admitted I was partying. Stop making things up!
Reverend Dewey Cox

Frankfort, IL

#33 May 21, 2009
Alexis wrote:
Okay first off for all of you who say this nun is innocent and deserves to walk, I respect your opinion. I am Alexis Pena, the driver of the vehicle Keith Forbes died in. All of you can sit and say I'm in the wrong and you know what I really don't care. I know, Keith knows, Simon knows, and Jamison knows the truth. Even Marie Marot knows that she is the one who ran the red light. My family is behind me and so is Keith's family and the families of the two other kids. For those of you who do support me I thank you so much, this trial I felt, was unfair but you know what? It doesn't matter if winning a case like this makes her look better then okay. But, she has to live with herself killing a bright, intelligent, loving, great friend of mine. If you don't know the whole story don't spread rumors because I know that I didn't run that light and so does everyone else. I'll let you all think she's innocent. None of you understand what I've had to go through for the past year and a half. After this accident my life has changed so much. I just want justice to be found because I know she ran the red light I was there, she took my best friends life away. I wasn't doing anything wrong, except for the curfew and more than one person in the car, other than that I followed the rules. I will not allow anyone to accuse me of my best friends death. And correction for everyone I was not even partying, we didn't even get to go anywhere because by the time I picked up everyone one of them wanted to go home, and also, I never admitted I was partying. Stop making things up!
The best part of any of this Alexis, is God will forgive you and Sister Marie regardless of sin.

And you shouldn't even expose yourself to these blogs and the idiocy that so many of us post.

Mourn and grieve for your friend and remember the joy he brought to your life. After you get through that, I'm sure he will be with you as you carry on.
Alexis

Redmond, WA

#34 May 21, 2009
Reverend Dewey Cox wrote:
<quoted text>
The best part of any of this Alexis, is God will forgive you and Sister Marie regardless of sin.
And you shouldn't even expose yourself to these blogs and the idiocy that so many of us post.
Mourn and grieve for your friend and remember the joy he brought to your life. After you get through that, I'm sure he will be with you as you carry on.
God will forgive me for my sin? I never comitted a sin I never lied about anything I've told the truth from the beginning. But, you know everyone has their opinion and I'll let you all either say rude things or not. But, it's not fair if you don't know the whole story. I know who is innocent, I have nothing to hide from the public. All of you can keep writing your idiotic and racist remarks about me and my friends but don't sit there and say I was partying. That's not fair to me that they've spread a rumor like that. I can't even bear to look at some of your remarks some of you posted. I've said what I wanted. I won't be posting to this blog anymore. It's not worth my time to sit here and read this crap some of you post. Thank you everyone for the support, it means so much to me and my friends and their families, please continue the support.
Reverend Dewey Cox

Frankfort, IL

#35 May 21, 2009
Alexis wrote:
<quoted text>
God will forgive me for my sin? I never comitted a sin I never lied about anything I've told the truth from the beginning. But, you know everyone has their opinion and I'll let you all either say rude things or not. But, it's not fair if you don't know the whole story. I know who is innocent, I have nothing to hide from the public. All of you can keep writing your idiotic and racist remarks about me and my friends but don't sit there and say I was partying. That's not fair to me that they've spread a rumor like that. I can't even bear to look at some of your remarks some of you posted. I've said what I wanted. I won't be posting to this blog anymore. It's not worth my time to sit here and read this crap some of you post. Thank you everyone for the support, it means so much to me and my friends and their families, please continue the support.
Hokay, I should've said "forgive all of your sins." I wasn't referring to this one incident. All I meant was, God forgives us all if we let him and the first step towards that is us forgiving ourselves and others. I'm sure we've all sinned at one time or another. Let go of your anger. You still have your whole life ahead of you.
DTB

Geneva, IL

#36 May 25, 2009
Why Cry Now wrote:
Your Honor, the defense is attempting
to taint the jury pool.
If the judge let's her wear her "habit" to her arraigment it could
set a disturbing precedent.
Taint what? This is what she wears every day since she took her vows. What's disturbing is people who don't have enough facts and make uneducated judgments. Dangerous minds!
geldernick

Chicago, IL

#37 Feb 2, 2011
I have been at the pastry shop many times. My view has always been that the nuns are rather shy and reclusive. It is beyond me to believe that any of them would intentionally or accidentally inflict harm. The fact is they make the pastries at a convent on the west side of Chicago and drive them out to the Algonquin Commons store, opening at 7 a.m. unless they are late. Being French, it is o.k. to be late. The order has been banned from France due to some kind of persecution. Never heard that they were not Catholic. What does it matter? A sleepy lady, doing her job, driving pastries some 40 miles and working the next 12 hours selling them, well, she had to be awfully tired when the accident happened. The traffic in that area is as aggressive as a Bears-Packer football game. I am sure she feels awful.
Not sure I understand the law suit. She had to know English well enough to pass an Illinois driving test.

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