Since: Apr 13

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#1193 Jul 5, 2013
Ron wrote:
<quoted text>Usually people run for the BOE when they have an "interest". Either they are already involved with a spouse or child and want to get on the board to make a difference. After all, it is a lot of headaches and time and for NO PAY. So, that is why you get people running for the school board that already have a relative or more in the schools. They then hear of opportunities like other people do in other businesses and "know" a relative that will be "perfect" in that job. It happens all the time, EVERYWHERE. The new board president, Dan Smith and the BOE, has finally seen the real problem with some of this in our district and put a policy in force that will prevent some of the nepotism from occurring going forward.
It prevents the nepotism for board members, but what about the superintendents family problem?
77warrior

Saint Louis, MO

#1194 Jul 5, 2013
As long as she's doing her job, her family issues are nobody's damn business!

Since: Apr 13

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#1195 Jul 5, 2013
77warrior wrote:
As long as she's doing her job, her family issues are nobody's damn business!
If they are hiring her family and they hold supervisory positions and are promoted ahead of more qualifies candidates it becomes our business.
dorissss

United States

#1196 Jul 5, 2013
Letusnamenames wrote:
<quoted text>If they are hiring her family and they hold supervisory positions and are promoted ahead of more qualifies candidates it becomes our business.
Which is the problem, hiring or promotions? You do know those are two different things, right? You aren't very smart.

Since: Apr 13

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#1197 Jul 5, 2013
Both.

Hiring should be the best qualified.

Promotions shouldn't bypass the normal promotional line when the senior person is the most qualified.
dorissss

United States

#1198 Jul 5, 2013
When hiring teachers, what constitutes the best qualified? Almost every student gets an A in student teaching. Do you want the highest GPA's? Does that matter when hiring a teacher? Lets hear your plan for this.

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#1199 Jul 5, 2013
dorissss wrote:
When hiring teachers, what constitutes the best qualified? Almost every student gets an A in student teaching. Do you want the highest GPA's? Does that matter when hiring a teacher? Lets hear your plan for this.
You're just attacking at this point. Everyone knows where the problems are. They are just unwilling to step up and confront it.
dorissss

United States

#1200 Jul 5, 2013
Letusnamenames wrote:
<quoted text>You're just attacking at this point. Everyone knows where the problems are. They are just unwilling to step up and confront it.
I'm just asking for your opinion. Do you not have one, or just afraid to voice it.
Dave

United States

#1201 Jul 6, 2013
dorissss wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm just asking for your opinion. Do you not have one, or just afraid to voice it.
Good point. Most of the people on here do not have a clue but insist on their 2 cents worth. They make all of these accusations without any proof. God bless America.

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#1202 Jul 7, 2013
Dave wrote:
<quoted text>Good point. Most of the people on here do not have a clue but insist on their 2 cents worth. They make all of these accusations without any proof. God bless America.
Here's how to do it.

For new hires, look at their experience and their education. Look at what grade/subjects they have been teaching in the past. This includes student teaching. Do behavioral interviews. Call their references. Find the closest fit of all the candidates to the position they are looking for.

For promotion, follow the promotional line looking at past performance appraisals. Make them list peers as references and talk to them and document since the person might have gotten a good appraisal due to who they know, but really do a poor job. Look at the candidate and the job qualifications and make sure they are met.

For both, job qualifications should be listed to weed out candidates that don't even come close.

Is that better for you all? I can see why the district has a hard time with this. It seems like there is no common sense.

What positions does the super's relatives hold? I know of a couple, but I want to know them all.

I also think an annual report should be produced like corporations stock reports listing supervisors and above and who they are related to in administration or the board. Full disclosure so the public can keep an eye on the problem.
Sam Ferry

Saint Louis, MO

#1203 Jul 7, 2013
77warrior wrote:
As long as she's doing her job, her family issues are nobody's damn business!
It's my damn business! I pay for her selfish stupidity!
Sam Ferry

Saint Louis, MO

#1204 Jul 7, 2013
Letusnamenames wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's how to do it.
For new hires, look at their experience and their education. Look at what grade/subjects they have been teaching in the past. This includes student teaching. Do behavioral interviews. Call their references. Find the closest fit of all the candidates to the position they are looking for.
For promotion, follow the promotional line looking at past performance appraisals. Make them list peers as references and talk to them and document since the person might have gotten a good appraisal due to who they know, but really do a poor job. Look at the candidate and the job qualifications and make sure they are met.
For both, job qualifications should be listed to weed out candidates that don't even come close.
Is that better for you all? I can see why the district has a hard time with this. It seems like there is no common sense.
What positions does the super's relatives hold? I know of a couple, but I want to know them all.
I also think an annual report should be produced like corporations stock reports listing supervisors and above and who they are related to in administration or the board. Full disclosure so the public can keep an eye on the problem.
Do you corrently or have you ever worked at Fox C-6?

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#1205 Jul 7, 2013
Sam Ferry wrote:
<quoted text>Do you corrently or have you ever worked at Fox C-6?
Nope. Why?
Tired of it All

Imperial, MO

#1206 Jul 7, 2013
Sam Ferry wrote:
<quoted text>Do you corrently or have you ever worked at Fox C-6?
You know Sam, I don't have a problem with you fighting your fight, but personal statements like stupidity referring to Dr. Critchlow is classless on your part. I have felt, up to that statement, that you have handled yourself pretty well. Stick to the facts and leave the personal parts for when you speak to her in person. Yes, I did work for the district for 28 years and am retired. We taught our students not to refer to anyone as stupid. And yes I have family working for the district, as do you.

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#1207 Jul 7, 2013
Tired of it All wrote:
<quoted text>You know Sam, I don't have a problem with you fighting your fight, but personal statements like stupidity referring to Dr. Critchlow is classless on your part. I have felt, up to that statement, that you have handled yourself pretty well. Stick to the facts and leave the personal parts for when you speak to her in person. Yes, I did work for the district for 28 years and am retired. We taught our students not to refer to anyone as stupid. And yes I have family working for the district, as do you.
Sounds like a threat to me, Sam. Is that a you shut up or we fire your family?
77warrior

Saint Louis, MO

#1208 Jul 7, 2013
Sam, you pay for her alleged stupidity? Funny, I put four children through that district, and have yet to get my bill in the mail. You must be awfully special!
dorissss

Saint Louis, MO

#1209 Jul 7, 2013
Letusnamenames wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds like a threat to me, Sam. Is that a you shut up or we fire your family?
His wife won't get fired, people actually like her.

Since: Apr 13

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#1210 Jul 7, 2013
77warrior wrote:
Sam, you pay for her alleged stupidity? Funny, I put four children through that district, and have yet to get my bill in the mail. You must be awfully special!
It's called taxes. We all pay her salary through out taxes. So yes, he does pay for her stupid selfishness as he put it.

I'm starting to think that you might be the special one
Tired of it All

Imperial, MO

#1211 Jul 7, 2013
Letusnamenames wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds like a threat to me, Sam. Is that a you shut up or we fire your family?
Not a threat at all. Just stating fact. We both have family working for the district. And yes, she is very loved. I have always had the utmost respect for her. Never have and never will be in a position to get anyone fired. Just getting sick of the drama.
Sam Ferry

Saint Louis, MO

#1212 Jul 7, 2013
Tired of it All wrote:
<quoted text>
You know Sam, I don't have a problem with you fighting your fight, but personal statements like stupidity referring to Dr. Critchlow is classless on your part. I have felt, up to that statement, that you have handled yourself pretty well. Stick to the facts and leave the personal parts for when you speak to her in person. Yes, I did work for the district for 28 years and am retired. We taught our students not to refer to anyone as stupid. And yes I have family working for the district, as do you.
I do not do or say anything seeking your approval. But I guess I am thankful for your blessing, don't really think about it. If she has done nothing that could be classified as "stupid" concerning her position and responsibility I will retract it. But I feel pretty safe in being able to back up that statement.

What the hell are you "tired of"? Because I am tired of the stupidity that governs the Fox school district! Dr. Critchlow is right at the top of that list! You don't like it ? Too bad! You want to defend that stupidity? That is your right, it is also mine to shout it from the mountaintops! She should be replaced, she is a disgrace to this school district. There is no love lost between me and this administration.......to personal for you? What she did with the cease and desist letter and the use of friends and family to beat people up on topix is unforgivable!

HAVE YOU EVER DONE ANYTHING THAT WAS STUPID? Or does it scare you to say that about yourself? I have done lots of stupid things, and said many more stupid things, and all of my friends and family point that out to me and I love them for it. Grow up! Stupid is as stupid does!

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