Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

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#103 Oct 14, 2013
Rules are Rules wrote:
Sec. 3-36. Suspension of revocation—Generally.permanen t link to this piece of content

The city council may, in addition to other penalties provided by ordinance, suspend or revoke a license issued pursuant to this chapter if the licensee or his employees or agents shall have been shown to be guilty of, to have violated, or to be involved in, any of the following:

(1)
An offense resulting in a conviction involving the use of force or violence upon the person of another in the operation of the business of licensee;
(2)
A conviction of a crime involving a felony by licensee or any of the officers or the managing officer of licensee;
(3)
Any false, misleading or fraudulent statement of fact in the license application for the licensee or in any other document required by the city in conjunction therewith;
(4)
Violation of any of the provisions of this chapter or any of the laws of this city;
(5)
Violation of the laws of the federal or state government, or any rule or regulation pertaining to the sale and licensing of intoxicating liquors;
(6)
Operation of the business in such a manner that it constitutes a nuisance to the neighborhood;
(7)
Conduct by the officers, employees, or managing officers of the licensee such as public drunkenness when working or while on the premises, indecent exposure when working or when on the premises or other conduct which shows improper conduct by an individual who is licensed pursuant to this chapter.
(8)
Lack of proper control of customers. The licensee shall use good judgment in the sale of intoxicating beverages and shall not sell same to persons obviously intoxicated. If any customer becomes unruly or abusive, it shall be the duty of the licensee to call and fully cooperate with police, or other law enforcement authority. The licensee shall take appropriate and necessary steps to supervise the premises immediately outside the liquor establishment, shall keep said premises free from litter, and shall not allow the premises to become a gathering location for the liquor establishment's customers. This is not an exhaustive list, but only provided as an example of the type of behavior that may result in the suspension or revocation of license
And yet none of those apply to the Gold Buyer business unless the employee was an officer. Try again.

You just have a score to settle with the Gold Buyer, don't you?
Watching

Arnold, MO

#104 Oct 14, 2013
The city council may, in addition to other penalties provided by ordinance suspend or revoke a license issued pursuant to this chapter if the licensee, his employees or agents are shown to be guilty of, to have violated or to be involved in any of the following:
If you look at 5, 6 and 7 you may find that
5) Receiving stolen property violates the laws of the federal or state government.
6) Operation of the business in such a manner that it constitutes a nuisance to the neighborhood.(Thieve coming into the neighborhood and having a place to go with their good might be a nuisance.)
7)That kind of activity very well may be considered "other conduct(receiving stolen merchandise) shows improper conduct by an employee."

Key words: Employees have been shown to be involved in receiving stolen property in violation of state statutes, which constitutes operating their business in manner that constitutes a nuisance to the neighborhood. Who would disagree with this? Maybe they can get a new license, move and do business in a location on the corner from you.
Mr awesome

United States

#105 Oct 14, 2013
Watching wrote:
The city council may, in addition to other penalties provided by ordinance suspend or revoke a license issued pursuant to this chapter if the licensee, his employees or agents are shown to be guilty of, to have violated or to be involved in any of the following:
If you look at 5, 6 and 7 you may find that
5) Receiving stolen property violates the laws of the federal or state government.
6) Operation of the business in such a manner that it constitutes a nuisance to the neighborhood.(Thieve coming into the neighborhood and having a place to go with their good might be a nuisance.)
7)That kind of activity very well may be considered "other conduct(receiving stolen merchandise) shows improper conduct by an employee."
Key words: Employees have been shown to be involved in receiving stolen property in violation of state statutes, which constitutes operating their business in manner that constitutes a nuisance to the neighborhood. Who would disagree with this? Maybe they can get a new license, move and do business in a location on the corner from you.
Ur grasping at air...
Watching

Arnold, MO

#106 Oct 14, 2013
Is that kind of like what rushes between your ears?

Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#107 Oct 14, 2013
Watching wrote:
The city council may, in addition to other penalties provided by ordinance suspend or revoke a license issued pursuant to this chapter if the licensee, his employees or agents are shown to be guilty of, to have violated or to be involved in any of the following:
If you look at 5, 6 and 7 you may find that
5) Receiving stolen property violates the laws of the federal or state government.
6) Operation of the business in such a manner that it constitutes a nuisance to the neighborhood.(Thieve coming into the neighborhood and having a place to go with their good might be a nuisance.)
7)That kind of activity very well may be considered "other conduct(receiving stolen merchandise) shows improper conduct by an employee."

Key words: Employees have been shown to be involved in receiving stolen property in violation of state statutes, which constitutes operating their business in manner that constitutes a nuisance to the neighborhood. Who would disagree with this? Maybe they can get a new license, move and do business in a location on the corner from you.
And that is just the top. You have to read the whole thing to see it applies to officers. Therefore your argument holds no water. You just proved you cannot read.
Watching

Arnold, MO

#108 Oct 14, 2013
Whooooosh, there's some more of that air. Claiming to be able to read and comprehending what you read are two different things as evidenced by the prior post. If the whole thing is read post #104 is the only logical conclusion to be made. I know applying common sense and logic in this town is almost sacrilege, but it really needs to be done. Don't disregard the first paragraph, it's what defines the inclusion of employees and their actions in a business as a reason to shut a place down. It can't be helped if some people cannot understand plain English.

Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#109 Oct 14, 2013
Watching wrote:
Whooooosh, there's some more of that air. Claiming to be able to read and comprehending what you read are two different things as evidenced by the prior post. If the whole thing is read post #104 is the only logical conclusion to be made. I know applying common sense and logic in this town is almost sacrilege, but it really needs to be done. Don't disregard the first paragraph, it's what defines the inclusion of employees and their actions in a business as a reason to shut a place down. It can't be helped if some people cannot understand plain English.
But they have to meet the underlying criteria. It's you who has no common sense and loves to play arm chair lawyer. Take your law degree back to McDonald's and demand your money back.
Watching

Arnold, MO

#110 Oct 14, 2013
Pay no attention to the preceding post, they have been put on the automatic ignore list, unfortunately we cannot delete them before we have to read their tripe. A business license, is a license. A license may be revoked and has, due to the provisions in Section 3-36. Period.

Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#111 Oct 14, 2013
Watching wrote:
Pay no attention to the preceding post, they have been put on the automatic ignore list, unfortunately we cannot delete them before we have to read their tripe. A business license, is a license. A license may be revoked and has, due to the provisions in Section 3-36. Period.
So that's what you have to do to get people to believe your lies. You have to tell others to ignore them. Well, people see through your crap and can see what the real truth is and it isn't coming from you. If you told the truth it wouldn't be necessary to try to get people to ignore other posts. You should try the truth some time.

Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#112 Oct 14, 2013
Watching wrote:
Pay no attention to the preceding post, they have been put on the automatic ignore list, unfortunately we cannot delete them before we have to read their tripe. A business license, is a license. A license may be revoked and has, due to the provisions in Section 3-36. Period.
Oh, and you just show that you are for censorship. You know, that censorship you are always complaining about and crying foul about. You are nothing but a hypocrite.
DSH

Saint Louis, MO

#113 Oct 15, 2013
I think posts on Topix, registered or not, should print your IP address. That way we would know who is posting under multiple aliases.
Round Them Up

Columbus, OH

#114 Oct 15, 2013
I think thieves, when arrested for stealing, should have their picture posted on a local board for everyone to look at so people can be more cautious when they are around. The stores they are stealing from should post their pictures in front of the store, call it the wall of shame. It could be the on line version of the Evening Whirl, Jefferson County style. Maybe they would be less likely to steal in this area.

Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#115 Oct 15, 2013
DSH wrote:
I think posts on Topix, registered or not, should print your IP address. That way we would know who is posting under multiple aliases.
I would whole-heartedly agree with that. Might expose some conspiracy theorists for who they really are.

Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#116 Oct 15, 2013
Round Them Up wrote:
I think thieves, when arrested for stealing, should have their picture posted on a local board for everyone to look at so people can be more cautious when they are around. The stores they are stealing from should post their pictures in front of the store, call it the wall of shame. It could be the on line version of the Evening Whirl, Jefferson County style. Maybe they would be less likely to steal in this area.
In Jefferson County they have an app showing who was arrested with their mug shot and who is currently in the jail and what for.
Hello

Overland Park, KS

#117 Oct 15, 2013
There are some retailers who do not prosecute shoplifters. They are inviting criminals into our area by not deterring them.
Karen S

Saint Louis, MO

#118 Oct 16, 2013
Rules are Rules wrote:
Sec. 3-36. Suspension of revocation—Generally.permanent link to this piece of content
The city council may, in addition to other penalties provided by ordinance, suspend or revoke a license issued pursuant to this chapter if the licensee or his employees or agents shall have been shown to be guilty of, to have violated, or to be involved in, any of the following:
(1)
An offense resulting in a conviction involving the use of force or violence upon the person of another in the operation of the business of licensee;
(2)
A conviction of a crime involving a felony by licensee or any of the officers or the managing officer of licensee;
(3)
Any false, misleading or fraudulent statement of fact in the license application for the licensee or in any other document required by the city in conjunction therewith;
(4)
Violation of any of the provisions of this chapter or any of the laws of this city;
(5)
Violation of the laws of the federal or state government, or any rule or regulation pertaining to the sale and licensing of intoxicating liquors;
(6)
Operation of the business in such a manner that it constitutes a nuisance to the neighborhood;
(7)
Conduct by the officers, employees, or managing officers of the licensee such as public drunkenness when working or while on the premises, indecent exposure when working or when on the premises or other conduct which shows improper conduct by an individual who is licensed pursuant to this chapter.
(8)
Lack of proper control of customers. The licensee shall use good judgment in the sale of intoxicating beverages and shall not sell same to persons obviously intoxicated. If any customer becomes unruly or abusive, it shall be the duty of the licensee to call and fully cooperate with police, or other law enforcement authority. The licensee shall take appropriate and necessary steps to supervise the premises immediately outside the liquor establishment, shall keep said premises free from litter, and shall not allow the premises to become a gathering location for the liquor establishment's customers. This is not an exhaustive list, but only provided as an example of the type of behavior that may result in the suspension or revocation of license
As Letusnamenames has stated, this does not apply to the Gold Buyer in any way, shape, or form. As it Pertains to the shop employee allegedly receiving stolen property, it still does not apply as there have been no CONVICTIONS as of yet. And to agree with what Letusnamenames has said several times, Innocent until proven guilty. I see no reason why the business license should even be an issue here.
Take Blinders Off

Torrance, CA

#119 Oct 17, 2013
Karen S wrote:
<quoted text>
As Letusnamenames has stated, this does not apply to the Gold Buyer in any way, shape, or form. As it Pertains to the shop employee allegedly receiving stolen property, it still does not apply as there have been no CONVICTIONS as of yet. And to agree with what Letusnamenames has said several times, Innocent until proven guilty. I see no reason why the business license should even be an issue here.
Agree all you want, they are still closed with weeds growing four feet high around the building. Number 6 would apply and if confessing is not an admission of guilt, what is it?

Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#120 Oct 17, 2013
Take Blinders Off wrote:
<quoted text>Agree all you want, they are still closed with weeds growing four feet high around the building. Number 6 would apply and if confessing is not an admission of guilt, what is it?
But the employee was not an officer of the company. It does not apply.

Letusnamenames

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#121 Oct 17, 2013
Karen S wrote:
<quoted text>As Letusnamenames has stated, this does not apply to the Gold Buyer in any way, shape, or form. As it Pertains to the shop employee allegedly receiving stolen property, it still does not apply as there have been no CONVICTIONS as of yet. And to agree with what Letusnamenames has said several times, Innocent until proven guilty. I see no reason why the business license should even be an issue here.
They will keep to their ways even if they are wrong. To me it appears they have a personal vendetta against the place. I guess when you blame them (and not your own actions) for causing you to lose an election then you would have a vendetta.
Good Morning

Torrance, CA

#122 Oct 17, 2013
It's Thursday, they are still closed. Surely no one is going to suggest the city is actually doing the job they are supposed to do. That couldn't possibly be what happened, could it?

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