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Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

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The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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“laugh until your belly hurts”

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#34316 Jun 28, 2012
oldman farmer wrote:
<quoted text> YOU MAY NOT SEE THE PROBLEM BUT ( GOD ) DOES !
does what?

LAcreole

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#34317 Jun 28, 2012
oldman farmer wrote:
<quoted text> YOU MAY NOT SEE THE PROBLEM BUT ( GOD ) DOES !
Although I don't disagree you, God also sees the hipocracy and sin in trying to replace him (God) in judging others. We are all sinners. No sin is greater than the other.

“laugh until your belly hurts”

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#34319 Jun 28, 2012
your a nut wrote:
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Your day will come then what will you do
wtf?
Bill Of Rights

Livermore, CA

#34321 Jun 29, 2012
your a nutjob wrote:
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So true
And what day would that be? How about you STFU and move along now or I'll tell my god Zeus! Just as real now isn't he? Sorry we live in a secular nation and NOT a theocracy! We follow the Constitution here and it trumps the bible every time! How about you go into your church,close and lock the doors and preach to the choir! Those of us who have different beliefs are tired of your sanctimonious B.S.! YOU are nothing but a common garden variety bigot and a phony KKKristian who doesn't even follow what your savior taught!
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#34322 Jun 29, 2012
grow up weebles

“Rights are not voted on !”

Since: Sep 09

Des Moines Iowa

#34323 Jun 29, 2012
what wrote:
grow up weebles
More like,how about YOU smarten up! Weeb's speaks the truth loser! Next for Illinois,full fledged marriage equality! Presented by your Constitution and the 14th amendment! Take your bigotry and hatred towards your fellow men and women and stick it where the sun don't shine! The majority now agrees with me and Weebs! So sorry!
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United States

#34324 Jun 29, 2012
little boy weebles
Bill Of Rights

Livermore, CA

#34325 Jun 29, 2012
what wrote:
little boy weebles
Oh wow man,I guess you told him now didn't you? LOL,Tell me,are you a member of MENSA by chance? What a rapier wit you have and such a way with words and ideas! LOLOLOL,Imbecile!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#34326 Jun 29, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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even better... it's no longer necessary for a woman to search out any male sperm donor of any kind. thru stem cell therapy she can fertilise her own ovum with her very own bone marrow stem cells and make her own baby. isn't that wonderful?
That is a unproven idea.

It is considered unethical, not the least because it is genetic incest.

Even more un-'wonderful'? A child literally without a father.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#34327 Jun 29, 2012
Not Yet Equal wrote:
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Use of insults and pejorative terminology does not make you correct. Your beliefs gay families are inferior are not supported by the evidence. Adopted children are often treated better than children biologically produced by both.
You are attempting to compare families that have experienced divorce and re blending to families where the relationship of the parents has remained intact for the life of the child. Intact marriages and relationships are not the same as families of divorce and remarriage.
Adoption is not the same as a step child relationship:
"Although remarriage of a father or mother can have bad consequences for children, when a couple adopts a baby unrelated to either of them its prospects are much brighter... parents treat their adopted children just as well as biological children."
"Two recent studies help to clarify the issue of how well adoptive children are treated. The first, published in 2007, found that children in adoptive households are treated better than children in homes with two genetic parents."
Whatever the reasons for the Cinderella effect, it is now quite clear that it is not triggered by a lack of genetic relationship. After all, adoptive parents take better care of children than birth parents do. It seems that caring for children, related or not, involves a deep human need that is better satisfied by adoption than step-parenting." http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human...
Stating reality is not a insult. Denying it is.

I have made no attempt to mix apples and oranges. I fully recognize the distinctions and results of biological, step, foster and adoptive families.

However, you have deliberately attempted to deceived the readers.

Adoptive parents make MORE effort in raising adopted children than biological parents do. Do you know why (Of course you do, otherwise you wouldn't have distinguished by focusing on the effort of the parent instead of on the results in the child.)? Adopted children do much poorer than biological children on social outcomes, so more effort is required to care for them.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#34328 Jun 29, 2012
No big O wrote:
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You are correct.. your legal precedence holds a lot of weight... unfortunately for you... it is not in your favor now is it?....
Now you talk about evolution.. mother father... funny... very very few species mate for life. Most of the species the mother raises the children. Dogs are prime example of this.. the male is there for the "fun" then finds the next bitch in heat... so your evolution argument is moot also....
Your post handle is appropriate...

You are suggesting humans follow the example or are equal to dogs???

Respond to my actual points instead of posing ridiculous extremes.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#34329 Jun 29, 2012
Not Yet Equal wrote:
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False. The most important variable is the relationship between the parent and child. Gender is not a determining factor. Many straight parents have unplanned and unwanted children, and are abusive. Having two parents of the opposite sex is no guarantee of success or even survival.
Of course there are exceptions. On all sides.

The fact of the matter is, the best chances for a child are with biological parents.

Indeed, the father, mother and child most often prefer it.

Change your handle to 'not yet thinking'.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#34330 Jun 29, 2012
dances with weebles wrote:
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and why, exactly, to you think that straights are healthier than gays? your post makes no sense.
Because they live a healthier life style.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#34331 Jun 29, 2012
Not Yet Equal wrote:
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While still true many people with HIV live shorter lives, most gay people do not have HIV. Gay women have the lowest rates of HIV. As others have pointed out, worldwide, HIV affects far more heterosexuals, yet you don't claim heterosexuals have a shorter life span. The prejudice you promote is irrational as well as harmful.
And yes, your links are promoting a religious based prejudice that results in needless suffering and death rather than promoting love and treating others the way you want to be treated.
Excusing another area on the backs to families and children to pretend gay unions are the same as marriage.

Why are you so afraid to stand on your own identity and merits?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#34332 Jun 29, 2012
no big O wrote:
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And eventually you will be able to tell us exactly how ssm would negatively effect your life and marriage.... well maybe not
Only after you explain how gay unions are the same as marriage.

Smile.
legal or moral

Champaign, IL

#34333 Jun 29, 2012
People are morons wrote:
When did you decide to be straight? I thought so. We are all human and we all should have equal rights.
All humans should have equal rights...when they obey the right law.

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#34334 Jun 29, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Of course there are exceptions. On all sides.
The fact of the matter is, the best chances for a child are with biological parents.
Indeed, the father, mother and child most often prefer it.
Change your handle to 'not yet thinking'.
And again, you rely on insults rather than facts.

Children of intact same sex parent families do just as well as children of intact opposite sex parent families. And again, in some of those same sex parent families, there is a biological connection to both parents.

The best chances for a child are with parents who want and care for the child. Many opposite sex parents do not want and often abuse their biological children.

Since: Jun 11

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#34335 Jun 29, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Stating reality is not a insult. Denying it is.
I have made no attempt to mix apples and oranges. I fully recognize the distinctions and results of biological, step, foster and adoptive families.
However, you have deliberately attempted to deceived the readers.
Adoptive parents make MORE effort in raising adopted children than biological parents do. Do you know why (Of course you do, otherwise you wouldn't have distinguished by focusing on the effort of the parent instead of on the results in the child.)? Adopted children do much poorer than biological children on social outcomes, so more effort is required to care for them.
You relied on personal insults against me and pejorative terminology to demean and stigmatize same sex parent families.

"You have deliberately attempted to deceived the readers" by offering a study which compares families that have experienced divorce and re blending to families where the relationship of the parents has remained intact throughout the childhood of the child. Intact marriages and relationships are not the same as families of divorce and remarriage.

Again, 30 years of research shows children of intact same sex parent families do at least as well as children of intact opposite sex parent families, and the determining factor is the relationship between the child and parents, not the gender of the parents.

Since: Jun 11

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#34336 Jun 29, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Excusing another area on the backs to families and children to pretend gay unions are the same as marriage.
Why are you so afraid to stand on your own identity and merits?
And again, you rely on insults.

In the states and countries that recognize marriage equality for gay people, the legal contract they enter is the same. That makes the marriage the same. The relationship is unique and the responsibility of the two people involved. Clearly the 55 year committed relationship and marriage of Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon was far superior to the 48 hour marriage of Brittany Spears, or the 8 marriages of Larry King.
Amazed

Norris City, IL

#34337 Jun 29, 2012
" Saluki Rod" I find it Ironic you would point out a statement of " smelling farts" as offensive. Read your first comment, starting off by saying Neo Nazi Christians. You are a typical liberal. I am sure jewish people, chrtistians, conservatives and many more find you offensive. I am sure eventually all men can marry men, women the same, and marrying an animal will be ok also, because a politician will do ANYTHING for a vote. As long as our Socialist king Obama is in anything goes !

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