Dont work for Indiana Postal service ...

Dont work for Indiana Postal service ever

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The Ultimate Kaptoz

Indianapolis, IN

#1 Jan 25, 2013
They say Indiana postal service is hiring 400 people. Guess what if you get hired, Dont expect to have full benefits of any like the unionized current postal employee's do. This is the postal tops basically outsourcing the same jobs and work for lower pay and no benefits, They say you will get $15 an hour. But they want you to work every holiday and weekends always. While regular postal people get paid holidays off and weekends even. This the same very postal people who can't pay their own bills. The same who just got a huge bailout. This is the same Postal people who again got bailed out for billions and are back in the red again in thew hole with their hands out to stay afloat. They want this outsouring of new hiree's to fill in the gap and keep their union thug reps and employee's fat and fed and happy with their high pensions and overpay, They still get to take their paid vacations and make no changes in what thewy do. The postal people are more or less expanding their hiring base But to hire people they can work to death without offering them the same healthy benefit package their current postal worker get now. They also know some of these workers they hire will actually be other postal people in the ranks already who were moved around, They will be working these new route part time, They will more or less be getting paid double.
The Ultimate Kaptoz

Indianapolis, IN

#2 Jan 25, 2013
Regular current postal make about $23 an hr so these new hires will only make $15 an hour and no benefits like current postal people make along with a very very good pension plan after they retire if ever lol. I guess if you want to work to death and not have any benefits , Then go for it. I worked for a Hub in Indy for years that was doing contract work for the USPS,
CalloohCallay

Indianapolis, IN

#3 Jan 25, 2013
Yes it would be much better to sit on your arse and draw ebt funds than actually work for a living. Damn the post office for trying to give people jobs!
Mr Republican

Fletcher, OH

#4 Jan 25, 2013
Workers don't need benefits. They're expendable commodities and should be treated as such. The only people that should be enjoying big perks and inflated benefits are those members of the executive and governing class.

Since: Dec 06

Indianapolis

#5 Jan 26, 2013
That is what you get when you put down unions. Who needs them anyways? They only protect workers rights and see that everyone is making a decent wage and benefits. But now that we have a RTW state, sorry about your luck.
really

Indianapolis, IN

#6 Jan 30, 2013
so many things wrong with the comments in this thread. where to begin?

first, the post office made it very clear that the approximately 400 jobs that are available are PART-TIME jobs. regardless of whether it is a government job or private sector job, traditionally, part-time jobs DO NOT include the same pay and benefits of full-time jobs which is what the original poster was complaining about. does anyone really think a newly hired part-time employee should get the same pay and benefits as someone with 20+ years of employment? the obvious answer is no.

also, hiring part-time employees is NOT "outsourcing" jobs as the original poster claimed. not even close to the definition of the word.

the original poster also claimed that the new hirees will have to work every holiday and every weekend. not necessarily so. many full time employees volunteer to work weekends and holidays and must be given first consideration over the part-time employess when it comes to working those days. so if enough full-time employees volunteer, logically, some part-time employees will not be needed those days.

the original poster also claimed that the post office "just got a huge bailout." this is totally inaccurate. the post office has NEVER been bailed out. the PO has been financially in the red for years and looses billions of dollars per year but it has never been bailed out by the federal government.

the original poster also complained of "union thug reps and employee's fat and fed and happy with their high pensions and overpay, They still get to take their paid vacations...". that full-time PO employees are overpaid is a matter of opinion. even more importantly, what PO people (both full-time and part-time) are paid and what benefits they receive are only what the unions asked for and management agreed to. that is how collective bargaining works. nothing wrong with that. like it or not, thats union power in action.

the original poster also wrote that, "They also know some of these workers they hire will actually be other postal people in the ranks already who were moved around, They will be working these new route part time, They will more or less be getting paid double." wow. talk about being cynical and uninformed. so tell me, if this happens, will the employee be getting two paychecks instead of one, or will they get one paycheck and be making 38 dollars an hour (23 dollars for full-time and another 15 dollars for being part-time)? getting paid twice for the same job amounts to fraud and is grounds for termination in both the private and public job sectors.

also, davidm wrote: "That is what you get when you put down unions. Who needs them anyways? They only protect workers rights and see that everyone is making a decent wage and benefits. But now that we have a RTW state, sorry about your luck."
the Right To Work Law is a state law and therefore does not apply to the post office because it is a federal agency. by the way, the PO has always been a "right to work" job. it does not mandate employees to join any of its associated unions in order to work there.
nope

Indianapolis, IN

#7 Jan 30, 2013
really wrote:
so many things wrong with the comments in this thread. where to begin?

first, the post office made it very clear that the approximately 400 jobs that are available are PART-TIME jobs. regardless of whether it is a government job or private sector job, traditionally, part-time jobs DO NOT include the same pay and benefits of full-time jobs which is what the original poster was complaining about. does anyone really think a newly hired part-time employee should get the same pay and benefits as someone with 20+ years of employment? the obvious answer is no.

also, hiring part-time employees is NOT "outsourcing" jobs as the original poster claimed. not even close to the definition of the word.

the original poster also claimed that the new hirees will have to work every holiday and every weekend. not necessarily so. many full time employees volunteer to work weekends and holidays and must be given first consideration over the part-time employess when it comes to working those days. so if enough full-time employees volunteer, logically, some part-time employees will not be needed those days.

the original poster also claimed that the post office "just got a huge bailout." this is totally inaccurate. the post office has NEVER been bailed out. the PO has been financially in the red for years and looses billions of dollars per year but it has never been bailed out by the federal government.

the original poster also complained of "union thug reps and employee's fat and fed and happy with their high pensions and overpay, They still get to take their paid vacations...". that full-time PO employees are overpaid is a matter of opinion. even more importantly, what PO people (both full-time and part-time) are paid and what benefits they receive are only what the unions asked for and management agreed to. that is how collective bargaining works. nothing wrong with that. like it or not, thats union power in action.

the original poster also wrote that, "They also know some of these workers they hire will actually be other postal people in the ranks already who were moved around, They will be working these new route part time, They will more or less be getting paid double." wow. talk about being cynical and uninformed. so tell me, if this happens, will the employee be getting two paychecks instead of one, or will they get one paycheck and be making 38 dollars an hour (23 dollars for full-time and another 15 dollars for being part-time)? getting paid twice for the same job amounts to fraud and is grounds for termination in both the private and public job sectors.

also, davidm wrote: "That is what you get when you put down unions. Who needs them anyways? They only protect workers rights and see that everyone is making a decent wage and benefits. But now that we have a RTW state, sorry about your luck."
the Right To Work Law is a state law and therefore does not apply to the post office because it is a federal agency. by the way, the PO has always been a "right to work" job. it does not mandate employees to join any of its associated unions in order to work there.
Whatever. No way am i reading all that.
The Ultimate Kaptoz

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Jan 30, 2013
Okay Mr really why can;t the USPS who just got bailed out at the tune of about 40 billion over a year ago and now want more money, Why can;t they pay even so called part time workers full benefits or even partial benefits or how about the same pay their regular postal people earn who do less strenuous work? I worked for them for many years, I know how their union does part time people, They act as though they are better and nobody else who isn't working full time for the USPS is mere peons. They even prevented a company that I worked for from getting the same pay as their full time postal people earned and benefits.Tel me how that's fair now.so us tax payers bailout the post office again as they just raised the price of a stamp by another penny. Yet we beailed out the USPS and their pensions and You think by them hiring 400 people who will have to work all weekends and holidays without the same pay or vacation or other benefits their full time people get.

Since: Aug 12

Plainfield, IN

#9 Jan 30, 2013
What the USPS is hiring for is entry level manual labor jobs. Those positions could be filled by anyone with two arms, two legs, and a fifth grade education. I'm surprised that they are offering $15 an hour.$10 per hour would be more than comparable private sector positions are offering.

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