Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,187

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Big D

Modesto, CA

#182587 Mar 4, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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UGH! So he repeats it again.
If the other laws against polygamy were repealed except PROPOSITION EIGHT, PROPOSITION EIGHT will be the only thing making polygamy illegal in California. And there's your topic.
Your "criminals use polygamy to perpetuate their crimes" schtick is utter bullsh!t. Don't you realize how stupid an argument that is? There are perfectly good laws against all the crimes your ignorance conjures up.
Yes If polygamy was legal before Pro 8 that would be true, but it was not

If Same Sex marriage was illegal before Prop 8 it would also be different, but it was not

If wishes were fishes we would all cast nets, but they arent

There is a whole lot of IF coming out of your posts.

Are you saying that you are NOT aware that the criminals are using their religious Polygamy as the reason, the "right" to marry underage girls in series to older men?

if you are unaware of that ( think it is bull ) then you are far less educated about the current status of polygamy than everyone else here is.

Since: Nov 11

Fukushima

#182588 Mar 4, 2013
Do you haters realize that gays are dying from abuse??? Kids, adults too.

End the hate, practice tolerance. Too many innocent lives are being harmed.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182589 Mar 4, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
So is the present argument against polygamy that FOX news is biased?
Big D? X-Box?
You need to learn to read, I have never made an argument against polygamy, just trying ( unsuccessfully ) to make you educated about the obstacles in front of it, and that Prop 8 will not change any current polygamy laws.

You seem to have a vested interest in not comprehending anything anyone says.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#182590 Mar 4, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to learn to read, I have never made an argument against polygamy, just trying ( unsuccessfully ) to make you educated about the obstacles in front of it, and that Prop 8 will not change any current polygamy laws.
You seem to have a vested interest in not comprehending anything anyone says.
You REPEATED ad nauseam insistence that poly has a bad image have been repeatedly noted.

A bad image is not a reason to deny equal rights, or to censor discussion.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#182591 Mar 4, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes If polygamy was legal before Pro 8 that would be true, but it was not
It is still true. If the other laws against poly were repealed, the only law against poly in California will be prop 8.

You cannot spin that fact away, stop trying.
On the John

Montréal, Canada

#182592 Mar 4, 2013
So what? If they weren't so perverted they would not have to worry about it. I mean who will want their kids (or any one for that matter), go somewhere like the pound, beach, e.g., and see trans (like)

"Gay Men" running topless with boobs flopping.(Kid saying look, mommy why does that guy have boobs), then when they are told to put their shirt on by authorities they want to CRY and call it discrimination,(or sumit like that) because they are a man and think they still have the right to swim without the top being cover.

Then you got those "fags" when in the stall trying to peek on you.

Or they but an hole in the stalls to put their pecker though.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#182593 Mar 4, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to learn to read, I have never made an argument against polygamy, just trying ( unsuccessfully ) to make you educated about the obstacles in front of it, and that Prop 8 will not change any current polygamy laws.
You seem to have a vested interest in not comprehending anything anyone says.
You seem to have a vested interest in bashing polygamy.

And in stubbornly arguing that it has a bad image to someone who says, yes it does, but a bad image is not a reason to deny equal protection.

Since: Nov 11

Fukushima

#182594 Mar 4, 2013
On the John wrote:
So what? If they weren't so perverted they would not have to worry about it. I mean who will want their kids (or any one for that matter), go somewhere like the pound, beach, e.g., and see trans (like)
"Gay Men" running topless with boobs flopping.(Kid saying look, mommy why does that guy have boobs), then when they are told to put their shirt on by authorities they want to CRY and call it discrimination,(or sumit like that) because they are a man and think they still have the right to swim without the top being cover.
Then you got those "fags" when in the stall trying to peek on you.
Or they but an hole in the stalls to put their pecker though.
You think they are perverted, your obsession and hatred, is perverted.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182595 Mar 4, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
You seem to have a vested interest in bashing polygamy.
And in stubbornly arguing that it has a bad image to someone who says, yes it does, but a bad image is not a reason to deny equal protection.
Again learn to read English

I have not bashed polygamy, just trying to make you aware so something you are obviously so totally ignorant of.

and I am sure before today is over, you will pretend once again that Polygamy has the same wide support that Same sex marriage ( The actual topic of this form ) has, and then I will remind you again than when Prop 8 is overturned, it will not affect the current laws against polygamy one little bit.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#182596 Mar 4, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Again learn to read English
I have not bashed polygamy, just trying to make you aware so something you are obviously so totally ignorant of.
and I am sure before today is over, you will pretend once again that Polygamy has the same wide support that Same sex marriage ( The actual topic of this form ) has, and then I will remind you again than when Prop 8 is overturned, it will not affect the current laws against polygamy one little bit.
OK I'm aware. So what? Same sex marriage had a bad image too.

When prop 8 is overturned, there will be one less law against polygamy, no matter how hard you try to spin it otherwise.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#182597 Mar 4, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>

...and I am sure before today is over, you will pretend once again that Polygamy has the same wide support that Same sex marriage ( The actual topic of this form ) has...
Don't start lying. I have not pretended anything.

You are attempting a straw man argument over whether poly has a bad image or not. I already agreed it does. Not as bad as you make it out though and a bad image is NOT A REASON TO DENY EQUALITY.

Poly has a bad image due to IGNORANCE and BIGOTRY.
BurnOuts

Covina, CA

#182598 Mar 4, 2013
No One but George Ogden of West Covina, California is responsible for the HATEFUL RACISTS words he chose to use in his Februrary 14 - 20, 2013 newsdpaper article. sgvexaminer.com page B1.

Of course the newspaper owner should have been aware and mindful of the racists language Geprge Ogden chose to use in his racists articles o the past.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#182599 Mar 4, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
Regnerus did not study children born or adopted into same-sex parent families, only those who seem to recollect one of their parents ever having a same-sex relationship.
Regnerus compared that group, most of which had experienced family dissolution, only to stable, married, opposite-sex families — i.e. he compared unstable to intact.
Regnerus ignored whether the children lived with or were raised by the parents who had a same-sex relationship.
Regnerus only identified these “gay” parents based on the recollection of the children, not based on how the parents actually identify or live their lives.
Most of the factors Regnerus analyzes were adult outcomes, not childhood outcomes, and could very well have had nothing to do with the relationships of the children’s parents.
The challenge is there's no large group of children raised from infancy to adulthood by SSCs, male or female, who were together for that time period.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#182600 Mar 4, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, I usually call it FUX News.
You would think after what happened in November, folks would quit FUX News, but nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Oh and what do u call MSNBC? Extinct?
BurnOuts

Covina, CA

#182601 Mar 4, 2013
I feel George Ogden has burned out and is need of some serious JAIL time to straighten out. West Covina, California should be ashamed of hima nd the city council member's who a part of this racists KKK group.

Concernijng his racist article he wrote and promoted in the sgvexaminer.com

Page B1 - February 14 - 20, 2013..
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#182602 Mar 4, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh and what do u call MSNBC? Extinct?
Liberal bias is not bias!

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#182603 Mar 4, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess the Viagra didn't help, still limp brained...
Snicker.
Must be one of those ad "homoan" insults you're always whining about. Good job, K-Mart.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182604 Mar 4, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Liberal bias is not bias!
Only a fool would watch Fox or MSNBC

I prefer my news without the obvious political slant.

Or to put it another way, as soon as a news reporter has an opinion, I change the channel
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#182605 Mar 4, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Only a fool would watch Fox or MSNBC
I prefer my news without the obvious political slant.
Or to put it another way, as soon as a news reporter has an opinion, I change the channel
Sure Big D. Everyone who watches FOX or MSNBC is a fool.

Put that together with your assertion "Worry not, their ship has been sinking for some time now, soon their entire party will be an unimportant fringe." Referring to about half of your fellow Americans, and you have a lot of fools and losers, and not very many winners in Big D La La Land!
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182606 Mar 4, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure Big D. Everyone who watches FOX or MSNBC is a fool.
Put that together with your assertion "Worry not, their ship has been sinking for some time now, soon their entire party will be an unimportant fringe." Referring to about half of your fellow Americans, and you have a lot of fools and losers, and not very many winners in Big D La La Land!
Fool, moron, I don’t care, how about someone so lazy that they don’t want to be able to form their own opinions and have to have them spoon fed to them.

There are a lot of fools and losers

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