Paul vs Jesus

[just observing]

Alternative wrote:

1. On the time of the coming of the Lord:
Paul says:
Rom.13
[12] the night is far gone, the day is at hand.
Jesus says:
Luke.21
[8] Take heed that you are not led astray; for many will come in my name,
saying,...`The time is at hand!' Do not go after them.

No contradiction here... They both agreed that the time was at hand...no contradiction!!

[just observing]

Alternative wrote:

2. On the source of the Truth and the true gospel:
Paul says:
1Cor.2
[13] And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who possess the Spirit.
Gal.1
[12] For I did not receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through a revelation of Jesus Christ.
Jesus says:
John.17
[14] I have given them thy word;
[17] Sanctify them in the truth; thy word is truth.

Jesus was the Word in flesh...His Spirit was & is the Holy Spirit...no contradiction here!!!

[just observing]

Alternative wrote:

3. On the God of the dead:
Paul says:
Rom.14
[9] For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.
Jesus says:
Luke.20
[38] Now he is not God of the dead, but of the living;

Paul was addressing the fleshly aspect of the Word of God, Jesus.

Jesus was addressing the spiritual aspect of who God is....God is eternal & is the God of the living, the dead, not regenerated by God's spirit, perish!

No contradiction here!!!

[just observing]

Alternative wrote:

4. On the sum of the commandments:
Paul says:
Rom.13
[9] The commandments, "You shall not commit adultery, You shall not kill, You shall not steal, You shall not covet," and any other commandment, are summed up in this sentence, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
Jesus says:
Matt.22
[37] And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38] This is the great and first commandment.
[39] And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
[40] On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.

These line before, as seen below, shows what Paul was talking about...He was merely repeating what Jesus was saying, that in love,you will not walk in adultery, steal from your neighbor, murder, or desire to own what does not belong to you.

Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Jesus and Paul are saying the same thing...NO contradiction Here!

It sounds to me like you have absolutely no clue as to what Jesus taught...The contradiction are in your meager attempt to discern spiritual truths with your brain, which is incapable of understanding anything spiritually from God.

[Question]

Alternative wrote:

<quoted text>
your post on Buddhism makes it clear you do not have a clue what a Buddhist is. Educate yourself Buddhism is a philosophy not a religion. It douse not teach fairy tales like the bible.
Did you look at my 25 contradictions I posted on the topic Paul vs Jesus lets talk about that.

The Bible instructs the believer not to be ruined by philosophy, Col 2:8 " Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."
1Cor 3:19,20 " 19. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
20. And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain."

Your post on the contradictions makes it clear you do not have a clue on how to defend the contradictions you have posted. I wonder where you copied this list, seance you haven't rebutted the post disproving your so-called contradictions.

[Alternative]

1Cor 3:19,20 " 19. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
20. And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain."

What is this mean? Do not think just believe what I say is true. If someone makes a logical point I am not wrong they are just deceitful.

[just observing]

Alternative wrote:

1Cor 3:19,20 " 19. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
20. And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain."
What is this mean? Do not think just believe what I say is true. If someone makes a logical point I am not wrong they are just deceitful.

It means that there are two different perceptions, one is made with the brain, discerning the natural principles of a natural world made with electrons, neutrons, atoms, which is matter, and the second which is not of this universe, that is discerned through God's spirit which is the conduit to the nonphysical, non-matter reality of an eternal world, where truth is the only gauge.
God must reveal Himself & His Word to us, man cannot discover Him on his own, he lacks the ability.

[Psalm 73]

just observing wrote:

<quoted text> It means that there are two different perceptions, one is made with the brain, discerning the natural principles of a natural world made with electrons, neutrons, atoms, which is matter, and the second which is not of this universe, that is discerned through God's spirit which is the conduit to the nonphysical, non-matter reality of an eternal world, where truth is the only gauge.
God must reveal Himself & His Word to us, man cannot discover Him on his own, he lacks the ability.

Exactly on point!

[Question]

Alternative wrote:

What is this mean? Do not think just believe what I say is true. If someone makes a logical point I am not wrong they are just deceitful.

So are you trying to say, that even if someone proves your wrong, you will stay in the same mind set, and convince yourself they are lying to you? So what would be the purpose of starting this post? So why should anyone waste their time talking to you? Or are making fun of the Bible believers who believe the word of God? Is that how you see the God of the Bible, in your question, "Do not think just believe what I say is true. If someone makes a logical point I am not wrong they are just deceitful."? Could you be more clear on what you are asking, saying?

[Alternative]

How did I make fun of your beliefs?
If I was going to making fun of your beliefs, It would probably be easier talking about topics like hell and the flood. When you go to heaven you get a new body because this one is gone? Douse god make people new bodies so they will be able to burn in hell? The bodies must be burn proof. Or douse god keep giving new bodies to those in hell? How about The boat 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high! That is less square feet than a football field.(Taxonomists -- biologists who specialize in identifying and classifying life on the planet -- have named approximately 1.7 million species so far. Each year, about 13,000 more species are added to the list of known organisms.) But if you take evolution out of the factor there would be more than there are today because of all of the animals that have gone extinct. But I have only post on the topic of Paul vs. Jesus. Until now I have not made fun of you.

PS How can God be omnipresent if He is not present in hell?
How can God be omniscient if He is not present in hell and fully aware of what the results and just sentence for defying Him looks like?
How can God be omnipotent if He cannot punish and fulfill eternal justice where justice is due?

[Question]

Alternative wrote:

What is this mean? Do not think just believe what I say is true. If someone makes a logical point I am not wrong they are just deceitful.

Could you be more clear on what you are asking, saying?

[just observing]

Alternative wrote:

How did I make fun of your beliefs?
If I was going to making fun of your beliefs, It would probably be easier talking about topics like hell and the flood. When you go to heaven you get a new body because this one is gone? Douse god make people new bodies so they will be able to burn in hell? The bodies must be burn proof. Or douse god keep giving new bodies to those in hell? How about The boat 450 feet long, 75 feet wide and 45 feet high! That is less square feet than a football field.(Taxonomists -- biologists who specialize in identifying and classifying life on the planet -- have named approximately 1.7 million species so far. Each year, about 13,000 more species are added to the list of known organisms.) But if you take evolution out of the factor there would be more than there are today because of all of the animals that have gone extinct. But I have only post on the topic of Paul vs. Jesus. Until now I have not made fun of you.
PS How can God be omnipresent if He is not present in hell?
How can God be omniscient if He is not present in hell and fully aware of what the results and just sentence for defying Him looks like?
How can God be omnipotent if He cannot punish and fulfill eternal justice where justice is due?

Jesus is the Word of God.....everything else is speculative, allegoric, symbolic, metaphoric or misconstrued.
The things you quoted are not easily understood. Jesus never taught about a body that would be consumed by a fire in hell. The flood was localized to the known world at the time & it's inhabitants & animals, most likely in Mesopotamia. Many different cultures have written account of an early flood to which a man & his family was saved, having been pre-warned. God is Spirit & does exist in everything, thus He is omnipresent, & He is all knowing & His judgment is eternal life for those who believe. He is not concerned with eternal condemnation as Jesus said:

Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

[Looking]

Why yall talking about Jesus on this websight? Isn't this just wrong?

[just observing]

Looking wrote:

Why yall talking about Jesus on this websight? Isn't this just wrong?

What could possibly make it wrong?

[got your back]

just observing wrote:

<quoted text> enjoy the BBQ...!

Tooooooo Funny I love it lMAO LOL GREAT ONE!!!

[Captain Obvious]

Yet in all of this, you have not stated your point.