Pioneer Plaza - Will it ever happen
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H8er

Lake Ariel, PA

#21 Sep 18, 2008
Hey if you haven't noticed all the houses and buildings are being bought by people from New York and New Jersey - GREAT - they throw them out and we welcome them with open arms - the drug dealers are moving in to our nice little community.
Keep the faith & Amen too that- Idiots
How about the good people who still live here!
NY_er

Staten Island, NY

#22 Sep 18, 2008
Carbondale is a diamond in the rough. Only 2 hours to NYC or Philly. Only one hour to Binghamton. Let them complete the Lakawana cutoff project and watch everyone come knocking down the doors. Carbondale reminds me of a little town in Long Island, New York named Mastic Shirley. It is two hours from NYC. Ten years ago you could buy a home there for 40 grand. The place was a dump, but with the real estate boom in NYC, more and more people moved out there and comute to NYC daily. Try buying a house out there now, you will need to lay out at least 300 grand for a decent house. I have faith in Carbondale, give it some time and you will see. Hey, I'm not just talking sh1t, I have bought two homes there so far, and am going to look at another 5 this weekend. I've got my money on Carbondale.
Mike G

Lake Ariel, PA

#23 Sep 21, 2008
Joe wrote:
Well the Mayor keeps saying "Two Weeks" until demo
begins. That's the same line since early 07. Last word was the District Justice was moving July 1st and demo would begin "Two Weeks" after that. Here we are Aug 3rd and not a word. Got to love it. Who is going to pay the million bucks this turd mayor has spend to date on overpriced property??- Surly not him.
Yeah the POS Mayor likes to say 2 weeks about alot of thing
Jim

Quinlan, TX

#24 Sep 23, 2008
PIONEER PLAZA What a joke. I left Carbondale when I was 18 years old, I am now 55 and when I was 15 the idiot city leaders were talking about Pioneer Plaza, like it was going to save man kind. What a joke.

The best thing that could happen to Carbondale is to bull doze the entire city and make it a huge parking lot.
frank macri

United States

#25 Sep 25, 2008
carbondale is a great home town. leave it alone
MR Carbondale

Carbondale, PA

#26 Sep 25, 2008
all i can say, Thank God all you numb skulls don't live in Carbondale, we don't need you, i'm sure the towns that you all live in are the BEST!....lol ... shut the Hell-up! and go leave post about your own shit towns, leave Carbondale Alone.....its better off with YOU.. DIE PIGS!

“Mr. Fig to you!”

Since: Jan 08

Brooklyn, NY to Carbondale,PA

#27 Sep 25, 2008
I own a home in Carbondale. I used to hang out in this "dump" when i went to school in Binghamton. I'm from NYC, born and raised. I don't deal drugs. I tend to fight for the other side. I side with NYer. There is a lot of promise in this little drive thru town. It's not about Pioneer Plaza at all. All it's going to take is a nice breath of life. It WILL happen. Have a little faith and if you don't live there, don't knock it, help it. Spend some money at Pinky's diner, or Magpie on Main, or any other place you can stop at. Any suggestions for what you'd rather see than Pioneer Plaza would help. Don't feed the destructive crap, offer the constructive instead. There might be someone listening with the independent finances to make things happen.
North East Pa

Brooklyn, NY

#28 Oct 21, 2008
Looks like it will finally happen come Spring 2009.
I drove by there and they have cleared the lot and filled it with construction materials.
They have already poured the foundation for the YMCA project as well. Carbondale will once again rise to it's former glory!
clint

Blythe, CA

#29 Mar 22, 2010
Joe wrote:
I heard the houses on South Church St were torn down to make way for the project. Can anyone confirm this??
Yes. They have torn down many properties on church street. Several houses and some old retail buildings are gone. A big ole blank spot is in downtown c'dale right now.

I live in C'dale and have been watching the project happen.
biggfig

United States

#30 Mar 23, 2010
YMCA is all but done. There is a big hole on the side of Main Street that better get filled in this Spring. But to be honest, things are starting to look up for this old town. Just need some more storefronts. Some days it feels like there's nothing open. They should turn Wallis' into a jammin night spot. Just kidding sir. I love your old town folklore and stories. By the way, it's been 18 months since i last posted to this particular thread. Yowch!
Who pays the TAXES

Scranton, PA

#31 Apr 4, 2010
where are the TAXES from these projects - the YMCA project torn down homes and businesses that paid a total of over $50,000.00 to the City, County and School Dist.- that is with wage taxes for people who lived in that area - forced out - the YMCA pays NO Taxes - the Hotel project on Main St. will not pay any taxes for another 18 years( Keystone Zone) on that property - they are City - County and School Dist.- another $50.000.00 lost to the City, County and School Dist.-with real Estate taxes and wage taxes - and it only cost the City 3.5 Million dollars to get this deal!!!
jhist

Carbondale, PA

#32 Apr 4, 2010
The YMCA has already brought a tremendous number of people, as well as continued new interest, to the city. Restaurants have already noted increased business because of the YMCA. People from throughout the region are becoming members to the new Y because it is simply spectacular with the highest standards of amenities that you can obtain for both indiviuals and families. The Hotel will also spread economic benefits and will help increase downtown business activities.
Who pays the TAXES

Wyoming, PA

#33 Apr 4, 2010
why put new sidewalks in the downtown - there is nobody to walk on them - open your eyes!
Who pays the TAXES - I ask you again - Who pays the TAXES in Carbondale - most people who use the YMCA don't live in C'dale - where have you seen so many NON TAXABLE properities on a Main St. as there are in C'dale - the Y - the Hi Rises Bldg's.- empty lots - City Hall - Fire Co.- Parks - Chamber Of Commerce - Library - the New Hotel (no taxes there either)- Who pays the TAXES - only the SUCKERS that didn't leave!
Cdale

Berwick, PA

#34 Aug 13, 2012
If you don't like carbondale move out or shut up its that simple

“Call me Angela, Meh”

Since: Oct 07

League City, Tx-Carbondale, Pa

#35 Aug 20, 2012
Cdale wrote:
If you don't like carbondale move out or shut up its that simple
It is that simple huh? Not everyone has the luxury of just picking up and leaving. I have issues with Carbondale too but I purchased a house and until I pay that off in another 2 years- I am stuck here.

Not everyone "rents" or "section 8's" out houses. Some people actually own them you know, with like a mortgage. It really is not that simple to sell a home in a city like this, even harder when you have a million foreclosures to choose from for dirt cheap.

I saw so much potential in this little town. It is truly beautiful but between the roads, the punk teenagers roaming the streets throwing rocks at peoples cars, and the wanna be thugs running around town like they own the place- this place DOES need to improve and if you honestly think otherwise then you need to question why is it that what little this town has to offer is actually good enough for you. Sorry, I want more for my kids and for my life. I thought this town could offer that but it can't with the way it is now. I am giving it another 5 years to improve, but it really does not seem likely.

Your love it or leave it mentality is exactly what it wrong with this town. Improve the place you live, don't just pretend nothing is wrong and turn a blind eye. I have lived all over the United States- California, Texas, Florida, Arizonia, & Maryland. Even Japan! Take it from someone who has traveled the world and seen what it has to offer - This city needs improving, end of story.

I really did love this place once upon a time, till I realized sometimes in life you have to strive for better and not just accept the status quo. Until more people start doing that in this town, nothing will ever change. It is called Garbagedale for a reason...a lot of the people here seem to fit that title and are the very reason why this town got the nick name. Don't get me wrong, I have met amazing, wonderful, hard working, GOOD human beings here..most of those people stick to themselves now because this towns inhabitants are getting scarier and scarier by the day.

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