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Akaka Bill a zero-sum game, not 'win-win' - Hawaii Editorials

There are 45 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Aug 31, 2009, titled Akaka Bill a zero-sum game, not 'win-win' - Hawaii Editorials. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Jon Van Dyke's Aug. 24 "Island Commentary" asserts that passage of the Akaka Bill would be a win-win situation for all the people of Hawaii.

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Wahiawa, HI

#42 Aug 31, 2009
In their editorial, Akaka Bill a zero-sum game, not 'win-win,'" Tom Macdonald and Bill Burgess ask, "Why should so-called Native Hawaiians]have higher priority to benefit from state land and money than their next door neighbors who do not have that precious drop of Hawaiian blood?

The answer to this question seems simple. Those who have descended from the native peoples of these islands deserve to benefit at a higher level of priority, because the lands that we live on was illegally wrenched from their forefathers and foremothers. Since none of us can determine with any degree of certainty that the progeny of native Hawaiians would be better or worse off had these islands and their considerable wealth stayed in the hands of the native people, we have no basis for arguing that they have reaped(a greater)benefit from the annexation and subsequent inclusion of Hawaii into these United States of America. What we can be absolutely certain of is that within these lands Native Hawaiians have suffered in greater numbers and have reaped less of the benefits that befall others who have fed from the fat of this land. The time to make amends is past due. This is called sharing.

While I may not agree with the specifics of the Akaka bill, I do subscribe to its general intent. If I am entitled to less, because the pie has been divided differently than it might otherwise have been absent a proper remdedy, so be it. I am still blessed to have lived here.

MacDonald and Burgess raise the correct question. They just seem unable to understand the answer.

United States

#43 Aug 31, 2009
srowe, do you have any evidence that the lands were "illegally wrenched from their forefathers and foremothers." Hawaiian history wrote that all the lands owned on January 16, 1893 remained with the same owners on January 18, 1893. No one lost a square foot of land. If no one lost a square foot of land, Native Hawaiians must have suffered the same as my great-grandparents during the transition from a Kingdom, a Republic, a Territory, and a State. I also oppose the Akaka Bill, but do not seek to have a single crumb of the pie. Srowe, I think MacDonald and Burgess have a vision that is crystal clear. We are all visitors to this wonderful Islands of Hawaii and as Kamehameha III wrote, "God has made of one blood all races of people to dwell upon this Earth in unity and blessedness."
zero in get a grip

Kailua Kona, HI

#44 Sep 1, 2009
Aloha for all founding Director Mr. Burgess and Mr
MacDonald have no understanding of the Word of Aloha. If he expect to reach others who are non-
Hawaiis one needs to read and understand the United States and the Hawaii State Consitution.
July 1894 Sanford Dole proclaim himself President
of the Republc of Hawaii.(ILLEGAL)He is showing
the same kind of confusing that is in America.
Reconcilliation is not one sided. Reading is good
for one health. 2 CORINTHIANS 5 V. 17-21
Paul de Silva

Honolulu, HI

#45 Sep 1, 2009
I and many, many people I know favor this view rather than that of Professor Van Dyke who has made large amounts of money representing native Hawaiian interests.
Lili Surrender Monkey

Fremont, CA

#46 Sep 1, 2009
At the end of the day, the fat Queen Liliwhoever turned out to be a surrender monkey.

Yup. That's the long and short of it. She threw the kingdom under the bus. Probably so she could go toke some opium (she was addicted to laudanum).

So basically, forget all the other baloney. The boss lady gave up the goodies without even a shot fired. Too bad but that's the real history.

Surrender monkey. Ooh ahh ooh ahh.

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