Akaka Bill a zero-sum game, not 'win-...

Akaka Bill a zero-sum game, not 'win-win' - Hawaii Editorials

There are 45 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Aug 31, 2009, titled Akaka Bill a zero-sum game, not 'win-win' - Hawaii Editorials. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Jon Van Dyke's Aug. 24 "Island Commentary" asserts that passage of the Akaka Bill would be a win-win situation for all the people of Hawaii.

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Kaimuki,Hilo,Ka'u, Kaupo

#1 Aug 31, 2009
Oh yes another column from Bill Burgess who singles out and targets Hawaiians based on their national origin (i.e. Ko Hawai'i Pae Aina)

Uh... why has he not been disbarred yet for trying to violate the civil rights of Hawaiians... even using the Honolulu Starbulletin to print his bile-filled vitriol singling out and targeting Hawaiians
RIGHT ON

Kailua Kona, HI

#2 Aug 31, 2009
transfer of land and money from ownership of the state, where it benefits all Hawaii's people, to ownership by a new Hawaiian governing body

MORE HAWAIIAN POLITICS---MORE GOVERNMENT--MORE POWER GRABS--

FOLLOW THE MONEY---
looky

Kihei, HI

#3 Aug 31, 2009
Homeless problem solved. Bill now becomes the model solution to homelessness, to the dismay of the real estate industry.
YES WE CANT

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#4 Aug 31, 2009
OMG here we go again with this racist bill. Of course it is something for nothing. So what can I claim being a direct decendant of the pilgrams???
realist

AOL

#5 Aug 31, 2009
Thank you for a clear exposing of the myth that somehow everyone wins when property and rights are divided into pieces. Too bad every candidate for the US House to replace Abercrombie support the Akaka Bill. Why won't Djou or Case come out with an alternative instead of buying the false hopes and publicity associated with the Akaka Bill?
Kamakani

Burbank, CA

#7 Aug 31, 2009
What's funny is that being 5/16th's Hawaiian, I still face the prejudice of people on the mainland and in Hawaii. There probably won't be a resolution, however I've heard the cons of the Akaka bill from both the Hawaiian sovereignty movement and those against the sovereignty movement. Reading this article I see the arrogance of the writer and his ignorance for the history of Hawai'i.
Hoochie Shades

Honolulu, HI

#8 Aug 31, 2009
People I disagree with should not be allowed to speak. I epitomize self-righteous closed-mindedness (i.e., I'm a young know-nothing know-it-all). Why haven't all the people I disagree with been forced to remain silent? I should be the only one allowed to spew bile-filled vitriol.
alice

Los Altos, CA

#9 Aug 31, 2009
Burgess is akamai and has more than once exposed the utter shibai of the Kaka bill. He is courageous.
alice

Los Altos, CA

#10 Aug 31, 2009
The kaka bill is illeagl and will be thrown out by the Supreme Court. But Burgess is right: the phony stories of the so-called natives will be exposed as people take a second look at the fake stories being repeated to grab money from the public.
TRUTH

Barnesville, OH

#11 Aug 31, 2009
alice

Los Altos, CA

#12 Aug 31, 2009
It is a very bad bill that will hurt all tax payers. Burgess is spot-on.
Tanto

Honolulu, HI

#13 Aug 31, 2009
YES WE CANT wrote:
OMG here we go again with this racist bill. Of course it is something for nothing. So what can I claim being a direct decendant of the pilgrams???
a good whooping?
alice

Los Altos, CA

#14 Aug 31, 2009
alice wrote:
Burgess is akamai and has more than once exposed the utter shibai of the Kaka bill. He is courageous.
very true
B Real

Honolulu, HI

#15 Aug 31, 2009
To all the haters above, answer this question: Why is that EVERY other group of native peoples are given the same rights as what the Akaka bill would give to Hawaiians, but for some reason you folks think that Hawaiians should not be given those same rights?

Who are the racists here?! If the other native Americans have recognition and a land and money base, why not the Hawaiians?!

I'd have more respect for the authors of this article and their racist supporters if they were fighting against rights for mainland native groups, but these folks are only against the Hawaiians' rights. Again I ask, who are the racists ?!
Pops

Honolulu, HI

#16 Aug 31, 2009
Burgess is white. Burgess is republican. Burgess is rich. hhmmmmm, sounds like a conflict here. Rich bashing the poor. White bashing the coloreds. Burgess family has always tried to deny the Hawaiians of their rights for generations. They practice deceiption and took lands through illegal means. Auwe. This is 11-25-09
Pops

Honolulu, HI

#17 Aug 31, 2009
alice, are you sucking on burgess while you type?
DayTripper

Honolulu, HI

#18 Aug 31, 2009
Kamakani wrote:
What's funny is that being 5/16th's Hawaiian, I still face the prejudice of people on the mainland and in Hawaii. There probably won't be a resolution, however I've heard the cons of the Akaka bill from both the Hawaiian sovereignty movement and those against the sovereignty movement. Reading this article I see the arrogance of the writer and his ignorance for the history of Hawai'i.
I'm pretty sure it's impossible to be 5/16ths of any ethnicity. Figure it out. And I doubt you face prejudice for being around 1/4th Hawaiian. Who cares? Maybe you're just irritating.
DayTripper

Honolulu, HI

#19 Aug 31, 2009
alice wrote:
<quoted text>very true
i'm glad YOU think so.
DayTripper

Honolulu, HI

#20 Aug 31, 2009
B Real wrote:
...I'd have more respect for the authors of this article and their racist supporters if they were fighting against rights for mainland native groups, but these folks are only against the Hawaiians' rights. Again I ask, who are the racists ?!
Good idea.
WhoCares

Washington, DC

#21 Aug 31, 2009
Mr. Burgess and Mr. MacDonald, can you folks please define "all". According to the Aloha for All website, it's mostly dedicated to tearing down rights for Native Hawaiians. Does this "all" also LBGT rights? as well as rights for minorities? How about religious affiliations and so forth? Is this included in your bylaws? I've never seen Aloha for All in any community event or organization supporting equal rights or civil rights such as the annula MLK march or LGBT events. I suggest you define "all" first.

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