Trial for Santa Cruz homeless couple ...

Trial for Santa Cruz homeless couple ordered not to camp downtown b...

There are 267 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Jun 15, 2010, titled Trial for Santa Cruz homeless couple ordered not to camp downtown b.... In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

By the end of the week, a Santa Cruz homeless couple repeatedly cited for violating city ordinances will know if they will be banned from sleeping in downtown Santa Cruz forever.

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Perry Masonite

Santa Cruz, CA

#1 Jun 15, 2010
Make the world a better place, give them the Death Penalty.
Westsider

United States

#2 Jun 15, 2010
Only in Santa Cruz.

Can't we just name them ambassadors in our Nuclear Free City, and send them to Iran to negotiate a non-proliferation treaty?

We could take the money out of the police budget, or court system budget, since we're already doing that to humor these "homeless" people with "rights" to bathe in public, intimidate people, and drink til they puke.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#4 Jun 15, 2010
How bout a free one way trip to the Black Rock Desert..give ten gallons of water and some MREs and they can wait for the next burning man!! Run these mooches out of down on a rail..the city has enough problems without having to deal with these Bums..yes Becky, Johnny said "BUMS". Johnny at the Harbor, Vacation time.
A C Ducey

Capitola, CA

#5 Jun 15, 2010
"Richardson's pro-bono attorney, Jonathan Gettleman, said he planned to call two local experts on homelessness."

Let me guess...
Zurc Atnas

United States

#6 Jun 15, 2010
"two local experts" Could that be two transplanted irritants, both self proclaimed "activists" and "experts" who have never experienced homelessness? One of whom has never experienced "work" and the other who has never demonstrated a shred of decency or common sense?

Way to alienate a judge and jury Gettleman.

Pro-bono. You get what you pay for.
What happens next

Los Gatos, CA

#8 Jun 15, 2010
Obviously the ruling at this trial will set a precedent. But then what? Say they're banned from sleeping (and peeing, drinking, screwing) downtown. Why in the world would anyone think they're going to abide by that ruling? They're self-indulgent exhibitionists, and they're loving all this attention. They'll do it again, get arrested, and then we, the taxpayers, will be stuck accommodating them yet again. But as far as a ban is concerned, I'd like to see it go further than attempting to prevent them from sleeping downtown; it would be great to see them banned from ever entering the entire county.
A C Ducey

Capitola, CA

#9 Jun 15, 2010
Zurc Atnas wrote:
"two local experts" Could that be two transplanted irritants, both self proclaimed "activists" and "experts" who have never experienced homelessness? One of whom has never experienced "work" and the other who has never demonstrated a shred of decency or common sense?
Way to alienate a judge and jury Gettleman.
Pro-bono. You get what you pay for.
Bingo!

Since: May 08

Santa Cruz, CA

#10 Jun 15, 2010
What does "banned forever" mean? Thrown in jail for sleeping downtown?

Maybe that should be the penalty for those who currently do, instead of a ticket that ends up not getting paid to the point where folks can rack up in excess of 60 of them without penalty.
In The Know

Oakland, CA

#11 Jun 15, 2010
So they will be banned from sleeping within a certain area downtown which is already within the city that bans camping? Maybe im missing it but are they just ruling on a ban that already exists? Judge "ok, seriously guys,we REALLY mean it this time, you cant camp out in the city, seriously."
TrumanCat

Emeryville, CA

#14 Jun 15, 2010
I think Robert Norse should let them set up a yurt in his backyard, dig a slit trench and run a hose out to them. It's about time he takes on some of the burden he keeps wanting to foist on the taxpayers. Since he won't shut up, he can put up!

“Pearls before swine”

Since: Mar 08

Santa Cruz, CA.

#15 Jun 15, 2010
Did any of you notice that the police and SENTINEL are not saying "60 citations" anymore, but now it's 20? Could it be that the police LIED to the public when they said they had over 60 citations?

Apparently.

Also, the SENTINEL continues its smear by saying that the couple were "destroying trees, carrying open containers, bathing in a fountain" when the facts of these instances are:

1. DELEON was cited for HURTING THE GRASS when he slept on it
2. ANNA (who does not drink) was cited ONCE for an "open container" when she camped near an empty beer can
3. ANNA was cited for 'bathing in a fountain" when she RINSED HER HANDS in the Town Clock fountain.

This is a witch hunt. It is a huge waste of time and money all paid for with taxpayer dollars.

It is the BARISONE's racking up the bucks for their FRENCH RIVIERA second home at the expense of a miserable, downtrodden homeless couple.

Even if the City wins, they will accomplish nothing.

23 witnesses? HOW MANY are on the city payroll and will be missing REAL WORK while testifying?

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“Pearls before swine”

Since: Mar 08

Santa Cruz, CA.

#16 Jun 15, 2010
One of the expert witnesses will be LINDA LEMASTER, the former chair of the Homeless Issues Task Force of the City of Santa Cruz. She has also served on the Commission for the Prevention of Violence Against Women. LEMASTER has been homeless herself three different times in Santa Cruz and is well acquainted with the services available for homeless people and the criteria required to receive those services. Trial continues today at 10AM in dept 4.
tired of it All

United States

#17 Jun 15, 2010
.. and we wonder why this City, this State for that matter, is broke. When will we just stop making excuses for these types of people? They obviously do not want to adjust to society as working citizens. Why do we waste money on this type of trial and the one against that idiot Norse for that matter? Police need to start working for that ridiculous salary they get for arresting and annoying the general population and get tough on real criminals, you know, the ones that actually harm people...
Charles Bronson

Livermore, CA

#18 Jun 15, 2010
No wonder the courts have no money. What a waste of money. These two losers do nothing for society.

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#19 Jun 15, 2010
Why is "downtown" any different from the City of Santa Cruz city limits? Is this some kind of special zone with its own distinct jurisdiction? So if these dirt bags sleep at the corner of Branciforte and Soquel it is OK? Or on the beach?

The city has bungled another opportunity to send a clear and unmistakable message.

Instead it has said just the opposite to every bum on the west coast: "come on down - we will tweak any law we have on the books to make it easier for you to hang out here!"

Hey all you bums - intimidate, vandalize, booze it up, make our lives miserable - no problem! We'll work it out somehow! We love you guys!

Good grief.
TrumanCat

Emeryville, CA

#20 Jun 15, 2010
Becky Johnson wrote:
One of the expert witnesses will be LINDA LEMASTER, the former chair of the Homeless Issues Task Force of the City of Santa Cruz. She has also served on the Commission for the Prevention of Violence Against Women. LEMASTER has been homeless herself three different times in Santa Cruz and is well acquainted with the services available for homeless people and the criteria required to receive those services. Trial continues today at 10AM in dept 4.
Maybe Becky Johnson can share custody of the "cuddly couple" with Robert Norse. With these two role models in their corner, the couple
will surely turn their lives around and contribute to society.

Since: May 08

Santa Cruz, CA

#22 Jun 15, 2010
Becky, why won't you let these two model citizens sleep at your house?

You don't even want them as houseguests but the rest of us should put up with them sleeping on public streets?
trailbuilder

Aptos, CA

#23 Jun 15, 2010
As long as the rest of us are entitled to pay our taxes in this city/county...the elected idiots and social do-gooders will feel entitled to squander our tax dollars on those so entitled as not having or wanting to work or pay taxes.

Here's a thought....since they make it unbearable to shop down town, send them up to Pogonip to camp. Maybe then they'll make it unbearable for the addicts and dealers...and we can go back to shopping locally.
if only

Watsonville, CA

#24 Jun 15, 2010
Forgetting Robert,If only these things like yurts were legal without years of red tape, money, and planning commissions corrupt processes, many people who really need housing could have it.
TrumanCat wrote:
I think Robert Norse should let them set up a yurt in his backyard, dig a slit trench and run a hose out to them. It's about time he takes on some of the burden he keeps wanting to foist on the taxpayers. Since he won't shut up, he can put up!
Santa Cruz Resident

Santa Cruz, CA

#25 Jun 15, 2010
Becky Johnson wrote:
Did any of you notice that the police and SENTINEL are not saying "60 citations" anymore, but now it's 20? Could it be that the police LIED to the public when they said they had over 60 citations?
Apparently.
Also, the SENTINEL continues its smear by saying that the couple were "destroying trees, carrying open containers, bathing in a fountain" when the facts of these instances are:
1. DELEON was cited for HURTING THE GRASS when he slept on it
2. ANNA (who does not drink) was cited ONCE for an "open container" when she camped near an empty beer can
3. ANNA was cited for 'bathing in a fountain" when she RINSED HER HANDS in the Town Clock fountain.
This is a witch hunt. It is a huge waste of time and money all paid for with taxpayer dollars.
It is the BARISONE's racking up the bucks for their FRENCH RIVIERA second home at the expense of a miserable, downtrodden homeless couple.
Even if the City wins, they will accomplish nothing.
23 witnesses? HOW MANY are on the city payroll and will be missing REAL WORK while testifying?
I bet the Sentinel got the number wrong! As for spending city money on this, I'd rather see OUR money spent on this than on that stupid lawsuit Robert Norse is wasting OUR tax money on. Stop excusing this homeless by choice couple. BTW, has a record company signed either of these musicians ....last I heard Anna and Migel were sure they would have a record any day now.

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