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Knowledge

Jackson, MO

#1 Feb 21, 2010
Of their descent from the Irish slaves sent there by Cromwell and keep off to themselves.
In short, events have proved Saco was right when he said that had Indian labor been de-pended on, the New World wouldn't have been what it is.
THE NORTH EUROPEAN
Saco spoke chiefly of the South European and what he hadn't done. What of the North European?
He, too, lived in a greater or less degree of comfort at home. Thus it was only the most adventurous and desperate who would tear themselves away to go to a wild land. The dis-couragements, to quote Beverly again, were "enough to terrify any man that could live easy in England from going to provoke his fortune in a strange land."7
Gondomer, writing in 1612, said, "This colony (Virginia) is held in such bad repute that not a human can be found to go there in any way whatever." He cites the case of two Negroes of London, brought before the Mayor for theft. The Mayor told them they could be hanged, but he would pardon them on condition that "they should go and serve the King and Queen in Virginia, they replied that they would much rather die on the gallows here and quickly than to die slowly so many deaths in Virginia."8
The first Englishmen who went to Virginia had positively no intention of settling there. Such a land was no place of abode for them.8* They had fancied America was like India with plenty of gold, diamonds, and silk, and expected to return laden with loot. Which they didn't. They called themselves "gentlemen adventurers" and would have scorned the kind of lJohnson was undoubtedly prejudiced against America. He hated slavery. In his "Taxation No Slavery," he asked, "How is it we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of Negroes?" But James D. Butler, who went into the subject thoroughly, says Johnson wasn't altogether wrong. "His research," says Butler, "has filled him with surprise that our colonial convict element was so large. He is inclined to confess that English views on this matter have been more correct than those prevalent in America. He cannot wonder that Johnson, who was employed in editing the Gentleman's Maga¬zine, had hundreds of times chronicled the re¬prieve of gallows-birds that they might be made American colonists, should hold in low esteem the regions they pervaded and peopled. It seems more natural that he should speak as he did and declare that he could love everybody but an American."19
Knowledge

Jackson, MO

#4 Feb 21, 2010
AFRICA AS THE ECONOMIC FOUNDATION OF THE UNITED STATES
"The discovery of African labor was an American enterprise. It was the introduction of a hitherto unknown muscular force, proving on trial to he the most perfect agent of production then known to commerce ... African labor fixed with eagerness the marvelous power in the varied and exhaust-less wealth of the South." —/. W. DuBose.
The United States, both as a colony and a young nation, wasn't highly thought of in Europe. When Thomas Jefferson was president he offered to give a site in Washington to any European nation that would build a legation on it; none accepted. Many leading writers even considered the new nation hopeless, among them Count Gobineau, Sydney Smith, and James McSparran. Gobineau was expressing a sentiment long popular in Europe when he said "Americans represent the most varied specimens of the races of Old Europe of whom the least possible can be expected. They are the refuse of all the ages—Irish; Germans, of-
ten mixed-blood; some French; and Italians, who outnumber all the others. The mixture of all these degenerate types, gives, and will con¬tinue to give birth to new ethnic confusions. These mixtures have in them nothing good. Italian, Frenchman, Anglo-Saxon will amalgam-ate in the Southern States with the Indian, Negro, Spaniard and Portuguese already there. From such a mixture one can imagine nothing but horrible racial results—nothing but an in-coherent juxtaposition of the most degraded beings."1 Still another writer called America, "the graveyard of the white race," and
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of their descent from the Irish slaves sent there by Cromwell and keep off to themselves.
In short, events have proved Saco was right when he said that had Indian labor been de-pended on, the New World wouldn't have been what it is.
shut up

Cape Girardeau, MO

#5 Feb 21, 2010
no one gives a shit why dont u all just shut up whatever happened then is over no one owes u shit so again shut up and get over it
Knowledge

Jackson, MO

#6 Feb 21, 2010
People, now you can understand why our English, Irish, German, government is so incredibly savage, and murderous towards nonwhite people.

America wasn't founded by people like Nelson Mandela, Princess Diana, or Mother Teresa.

It was founded by the most violent and psychotic criminals in the English prisons. The king opened the doors, put them on boats and shipped them to Australia, New Zealand, and America.

Here are some of those type of Australians:

Australia convict past uncovered:


Australia Full of convicts
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Convicts and MacAurthur.wmv
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

New Zealand founded by convicts!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Many Australians, for some stupid reason celebrate their criminal ancestors. All White Americans either don't know about their ancestors, or they sweep it under the bed, and hope like Hell that Black people won't find out from whence and where they ancestors came.

This is why America is the most violent Nation on Earth.It will remain that way until these types of Caucasians are removed from all levels of government and exiled to Iceland, or Greenland where there are only White people.Otherwise their attitudes will result in the downfall of this Could be GREAT Nation.
Knowledge page 5 of

Jackson, MO

#7 Feb 21, 2010
I MOST EARLY SETTLERS WERE CONVICTS

If then the colony was to be peopled, how could it be? Stockholders in the Virginia ven¬ture found the answer. Use it as a place of
punishment. Ship the convicts and others of England's unwanted there. Why hang a strong man for stealing a shilling or breaking into a shop when you could use his labor? In 1611, Governor Dale urged James I to banish all con¬demned persons to Virginia. Before that they were shipped to India. But the voyage round the Cape was long and costly. America was so much nearer. Those from Oxford Gaol were sent and young people with previous criminal records.
And so as slavery lessened cannibalism, trans¬portation to America made less work for the English hangman. One can imagine the rage of sadistic Chief Justice Jeffries, who used to send offenders to the gallows in droves, at this arrangement.
Later, the Committee of Trade of New York petitioned the authorities to send to New York all prisoners to be transported from Newgate Prison.9 It is doubtful, says Alexander Brown, if any other class of white labor could have been secured to open up Tide-water Virginia at that time than such as were sent." And these were unsatisfactory.10 "It is a fact," said the American Historical Review, "that the trans¬portation of convicts was a regular and system-atic pursuit through the seventeenth and eigh¬teenth centuries."11 An estimated 20,000 of these felons came to Maryland alone between 1737 and 1767, among them 115 on the York from Newgate Prison, March 22, 1739. Their names are given.
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Of course, all sent were not actual criminals. Some were debtors, others political dissidents, prisoners of war, labor agitators and the like. Some might have stolen only a loaf of bread or whitened farthings to make them look like six¬pences. But a good many were murderers, rob¬bers, forgers, counterfeiters, house-burners, highwaymen and the like. Most of these con¬victs came from Newgate Prison. A reading of Rayner and Crooks' five - volume "Newgate Calendar" will give the type of usual criminal there at the time.
It cannot be denied either that deportation

31to America was England's favorite way of get¬ting rid of her loose women. The first ones sent were undoubtedly this kind. Narcissus Luttrell, writing in his diary, Thursday, Novem-ber 17, 1692, tells of eighty such women being sent to Virginia. He mentions a ship "going for Virginia in which the magistrates had ordered 50 lewd women out of the houses of correction and 30 others who walked the streets after 10 at night."13 Chambers mentioned another ship¬ment of Scotch prostitutes in 1695.14
England didn't care whether such women were given to whites or Negroes. In 1787, when 351 ex-slaves were being sent from England to Sierra Leone, West Africa, the authorities picked up all the loose women they could find on the streets of Portsmouth, some sixty of them, herded them aboard, and had them married to the blacks. An Englishwoman, Mrs. A. M. Falconbridge, who saw these women in Sierra Leone four years later, tells of the^n.15
Leading Englishmen and Americans protested vigorously. "It is a shameful and unblessed thing," said Bacon, "to take the scum of people and wicked and condemned men to be the people with whom ye plant." 16
Knowledge Page 6 of 6

Jackson, MO

#8 Feb 21, 2010
The American Mercury, February 14, 1720, says of the arrival of "about 180" of these "malefactors" from the prisons of Newgate and Marshalsea, "These ways of transporting villains amongst such a flourishing people is to lessen our improvements and industries by filling the vacancies of honest men with tricking, thieving, and designing rogues who will hardly be brought to get their livelihood by such laborious and settled means." The Mercury, October 29, 1720, lamented that the plantations "cannot be ordered to be better populated than by such absolute villains and loose women, as these proved to be by their wretched lives and crim¬inal actions, and if they settled anywhere in these parts can only by natural consequence leave bad seeds amongst us."
The Virginia Gazette, May 24, 1751, says "When we see our papers filled continually with
accounts of the most audacious Robberies, the most cruel Murders and other infinite villainies perpetrated by the Convicts transported from Europe, what melancholy and what terrible Re¬flections must it occasion.... These are some of thy Favours, Britain. Thou are called the Mother Country; but what good Mother ever sent thieves and villains to accompany her chil¬dren; to corrupt them with infectious vices and to murder the rest."
In 1753, Benjamin Franklin complained that English and German jails were being emptied in America. He wrote the London Chronicle in 1769, "Their emptying their jails in our settle¬ments is an insult and a contempt, the crudest that ever one people offered to another." He threatened to send King George a cargo of rattlesnakes in return.
Chief Justice Stokes of the Colony of Georgia wrote, "The Southern colonies are overrun with a swarm of men from the eastern parts of Virginia and North Carolina, distinguished by the name of Crackers. Many of these people are descended from convicts that were transported from Great Britain to Virginia at different times and inherited so much profligacy from their ancestors that they are the most abandoned set of men on earth."17
So many desperadoes and others were sent that the American colonies came to be regarded as Australia was to be after 1787 or Devil's Island in our time. The celebrated Dr. Samuel Johnson said in 1769, "They (the Americans) are a race of convicts and ought to be thankful for anything we allow them short of hanging."18
Johnson was undoubtedly prejudiced against America. He hated slavery. In his "Taxation No Slavery," he asked, "How is it we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of Negroes?" But James D. Butler, who went into the subject thoroughly, says Johnson wasn't al¬together wrong. "His research," says Butler, "has filled him with surprise that our colonial convict element was so large. He is inclined to confess that English views on this matter have>
been more correct than those prevalent in America. He cannot wonder that Johnson, who was employed in editing the Gentleman's Magazine, had hundreds of times chronicled the reprieve of gallows-birds that they might be made American colonists, should hold in low esteem the regions they pervaded and peopled. It seems more natural that he should speak as he did and declare that he could love everybody but an American."19

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“Something profound”

Since: Feb 10

Cape Girardeau

#9 Feb 21, 2010
Who cares what anyone use to be? It should matter what we plan to become in the future. No one has any control over who their ancestors were and what they did or didn't do. You shouldn't live in a part of the past you weren't even there for. My family didn't even get over here until the late 1800's!
Cherokee

Lake Saint Louis, MO

#10 Feb 21, 2010
My ancestors lived here before anyone. If anyone was treated bad,it was us. Our bison was killed,squalls raped,and tribes wiped out. We was forced off our own land and they called us savages. If you don't like it here,go back to Africa,Europe,Mexico,China,or where ever you came from. I am home.
Sydney Gondomer

Jackson, MO

#11 Feb 21, 2010
Shut up Injun! Cherokee, who cares what anyone use to be? Or what they did to your ancestors? It should matter what we plan to become in the future.

No one has any control over how many of your ancestors we scalloped, or who their ancestors were and what they did or didn't do. You shouldn't live in a part of the past you weren't even there for.

My family didn't even get over here until the late 1800's! Stop whining! Get up off your drunken, drug using behinds and work harder like my family had to do.

We whites were slaves here and discriminated against more than the Injuns and Needtogrow put together.

We worked hard. That's all it takes to be successful in America. Hard work.We are GODs frozen chosen people. He gave us this planet and said that the White man is to have dominion over everything on it! That includes you and your tribes!

Stop being crybabies. Injuns are receiving $25,000 to $50,000 a month tax free from this government. How much more do you want?

“Something profound”

Since: Feb 10

Cape Girardeau

#12 Feb 21, 2010
Sydney Gondomer wrote:
Shut up Injun! Cherokee, who cares what anyone use to be? Or what they did to your ancestors? It should matter what we plan to become in the future.
No one has any control over how many of your ancestors we scalloped, or who their ancestors were and what they did or didn't do. You shouldn't live in a part of the past you weren't even there for.
My family didn't even get over here until the late 1800's! Stop whining! Get up off your drunken, drug using behinds and work harder like my family had to do.
We whites were slaves here and discriminated against more than the Injuns and Needtogrow put together.
We worked hard. That's all it takes to be successful in America. Hard work.We are GODs frozen chosen people. He gave us this planet and said that the White man is to have dominion over everything on it! That includes you and your tribes!
Stop being crybabies. Injuns are receiving $25,000 to $50,000 a month tax free from this government. How much more do you want?
Plagiarism much? Get up off my words! lol
Freddie The Freeloader

Cape Girardeau, MO

#13 Feb 22, 2010
Sydney Gondomer wrote:
Shut up Injun! Cherokee, who cares what anyone use to be? Or what they did to your ancestors? It should matter what we plan to become in the future.
No one has any control over how many of your ancestors we scalloped, or who their ancestors were and what they did or didn't do. You shouldn't live in a part of the past you weren't even there for.
My family didn't even get over here until the late 1800's! Stop whining! Get up off your drunken, drug using behinds and work harder like my family had to do.
We whites were slaves here and discriminated against more than the Injuns and Needtogrow put together.
We worked hard. That's all it takes to be successful in America. Hard work.We are GODs frozen chosen people. He gave us this planet and said that the White man is to have dominion over everything on it! That includes you and your tribes!
Stop being crybabies. Injuns are receiving $25,000 to $50,000 a month tax free from this government. How much more do you want?
"That's all it takes to be successful in America". NOT HARDLY!! I know plenty of folks who worked hard their entire lives and never got ahead. It takes more than "hard work" to be successful. You might want to define what you mean by "successful". If you mean "having a lot of money" then you are dead wrong! I also know a lot of folks with a lot of money who are "losers". Being a "success" is doing what you want to do because that's what you chose to do. Some people are successful bums. I'm one of 'em.
Semo Student

Jackson, MO

#14 Feb 22, 2010
Freddie The Freeloader wrote:
<quoted text>"That's all it takes to be successful in America". NOT HARDLY!! I know plenty of folks who worked hard their entire lives and never got ahead. It takes more than "hard work" to be successful. You might want to define what you mean by "successful". If you mean "having a lot of money" then you are dead wrong! I also know a lot of folks with a lot of money who are "losers". Being a "success" is doing what you want to do because that's what you chose to do. Some people are successful bums. I'm one of 'em.
Well, what you say is certainly true.

However, a lot of people have the drive, education, talent and everything else it takes to be financially successful. To me that means having a net income of $75,000 a year or more. Real happiness comes from being in harmony with nature. I achieved that a long time ago.

You can be rich, and full of White Supremacist thinking and be as sick, alone, and depressed as anyone can be.

GOD didn't put White folks here to hate on their ancestors 24/7/365. It's not our fault that you all are Albinos, and are angry because you don't have our beautiful natural Brown, and Black skin.

Spending billions of dollars a year won't help.

To be a truly happy White person, you must learn to be comfortable with your minority status on the planet, and your Albino status as people. That's the only way, you all will stop being so bitter and hateful.
Cherokee

Scott City, MO

#15 Feb 22, 2010
Sydney Gondomer wrote:
Shut up Injun! Cherokee, who cares what anyone use to be? Or what they did to your ancestors? It should matter what we plan to become in the future.
No one has any control over how many of your ancestors we scalloped, or who their ancestors were and what they did or didn't do. You shouldn't live in a part of the past you weren't even there for.
My family didn't even get over here until the late 1800's! Stop whining! Get up off your drunken, drug using behinds and work harder like my family had to do.
We whites were slaves here and discriminated against more than the Injuns and Needtogrow put together.
We worked hard. That's all it takes to be successful in America. Hard work.We are GODs frozen chosen people. He gave us this planet and said that the White man is to have dominion over everything on it! That includes you and your tribes!
Stop being crybabies. Injuns are receiving $25,000 to $50,000 a month tax free from this government. How much more do you want?
I looked in the mailbox and couldn't find my $50,000 check. Did you take it paleface?
Shocked

Burley, ID

#16 Feb 22, 2010
Knowledge wrote:
Of their descent from the Irish slaves sent there by Cromwell and keep off to themselves.
In short, events have proved Saco was right when he said that had Indian labor been de-pended on, the New World wouldn't have been what it is.
THE NORTH EUROPEAN
Saco spoke chiefly of the South European and what he hadn't done. What of the North European?
He, too, lived in a greater or less degree of comfort at home. Thus it was only the most adventurous and desperate who would tear themselves away to go to a wild land. The dis-couragements, to quote Beverly again, were "enough to terrify any man that could live easy in England from going to provoke his fortune in a strange land."7
Gondomer, writing in 1612, said, "This colony (Virginia) is held in such bad repute that not a human can be found to go there in any way whatever." He cites the case of two Negroes of London, brought before the Mayor for theft. The Mayor told them they could be hanged, but he would pardon them on condition that "they should go and serve the King and Queen in Virginia, they replied that they would much rather die on the gallows here and quickly than to die slowly so many deaths in Virginia."8
The first Englishmen who went to Virginia had positively no intention of settling there. Such a land was no place of abode for them.8* They had fancied America was like India with plenty of gold, diamonds, and silk, and expected to return laden with loot. Which they didn't. They called themselves "gentlemen adventurers" and would have scorned the kind of lJohnson was undoubtedly prejudiced against America. He hated slavery. In his "Taxation No Slavery," he asked, "How is it we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of Negroes?" But James D. Butler, who went into the subject thoroughly, says Johnson wasn't altogether wrong. "His research," says Butler, "has filled him with surprise that our colonial convict element was so large. He is inclined to confess that English views on this matter have been more correct than those prevalent in America. He cannot wonder that Johnson, who was employed in editing the Gentleman's Maga¬zine, had hundreds of times chronicled the re¬prieve of gallows-birds that they might be made American colonists, should hold in low esteem the regions they pervaded and peopled. It seems more natural that he should speak as he did and declare that he could love everybody but an American."19
Go back to molesting your Shetland pony.
The Avenger

Barnesville, OH

#17 Feb 25, 2010
Hey A**H*** - you got it wrong. criminals were went to Australia. I know - why don't all you African-Americans go back to Africa. See how you would like that. Hell, your chiefs sold you out as slaves in the first place.
William Penn

Jackson, MO

#18 Feb 27, 2010
It's true people. They were that way I know. I was there just like I'm here.
Knowledge

Jackson, MO

#19 Mar 1, 2010
Yes, William it is very sad but true. Caucasians are experts at having selective memory. They choose to remember the few good thing they have done, and forget the millions of diabolical acts they have committed upon the darker populations of the Earth.
yuckers

Las Vegas, NV

#20 Mar 1, 2010
bunch a crybabies! get over it already!
The Truth

Saint Louis, MO

#21 Mar 1, 2010
Here is a fact that will blow your minds,Who do you think was the first legal title holding slave owner in the United States? He is the slave owner that started the slave trade in the U.S. and out legacy of slavery in the U.S.

Surprisingly the first slave owner was Mr Anthony Johnson, of Northampton, Virginia, who was himself a BLACK AFRICAN. His slave was called John Casor, who was the first slave for life and also a fellow black African.

American heritage, vol 441, "Selling Poor Steven" states that 3,775 free blacks owned 12,740 black slaves. This story also purports that the first slave owner in Virginia, Anthony Johnson, was a black man. Frighteningly, the story also outlines how free black women "owned" their husbands, free blacks sold their children into slavery, and absent free black slave owners "leased" their slaves to plantation owners.
yuckers

Las Vegas, NV

#22 Mar 1, 2010
thanks to "the truth"! bout darn time somebody said it. so um knowledge send your complaints to mr.anthony johnson. and i think you owe the "whites" an apology. sucks now that you have to blame the blacks for slavery...wasnt our fault....

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