cama mama

Saint Louis, MO

#21 Dec 28, 2009
For the ones bashing the Teen Challenge Boys get a life. Even my four yr old knows what the programs about. When we are in Cape and see the Teen Challenge Boys in the back of the truck she always waves and says lets say a prayer for them. God will help them.
stl

United States

#22 Dec 29, 2009
God let them get addicted to drugs or alcohol in the first place. If you want to give him credit for the good things he does you have to also blame him for the bad.
Im Just Sayin

Sikeston, MO

#23 Dec 29, 2009
stl wrote:
God let them get addicted to drugs or alcohol in the first place. If you want to give him credit for the good things he does you have to also blame him for the bad.
God didn't let them get addicted to anything!!!!!!! He gave us all the freedom of CHOICE. They CHOSE to use drugs/alcohol. You got things a bit confused. God has a plan for each and every human being. Our choices are what either get us there or do not get us there.
stl

United States

#24 Dec 29, 2009
Not at all confused. You have your opinion I have mine.
DWP

Saint Louis, MO

#25 Dec 29, 2009
Come on People, wake-up! Somebody did something this guy didn't agree with so now he wants to burn down the whole house...Even if the program were perfect in every way, somebody would find something to bitch about!
I was a student at Teen Challenge in Cape Girardeau, Mo. in the late 70's and found it much more benneficial than the previous croud I learned from.
Lord, help us all become better people. Amen
gusbrooklyn

Fulton, NY

#26 May 12, 2010
i went there for 4 months and immediately it was frowned upon if u didnt sign up for cape girardeau for 10 additional months. they made you work like a slave and didnt care. the shower water was always cold. any dissent was given punishment. it was basically a slave labor camp in which they profit just like any other rehab.
so concerned

San Francisco, CA

#27 May 13, 2010
SCARY SCARY SCARY!! Parents, please don't send your children to such a place or you will run the great risk that they will resent you later in life. This is some sort of radical religious slavery. Use your own minds and don't let others control you. This is clearly a business and they want money - at any cost.
Sassy

Cape Girardeau, MO

#28 May 13, 2010
It could just be which Teen Challege you attend. My nephew had a terrible experience at the teen Challenge in Dixon Ky. He absolutely wanted help and was eager to begin a new life. He ended up leaving along with 3 other guys after only two months of abuse from the director. It was sad. Even after he left and my nephews Mom tried to call and talk to the director, he hung up on her. Kind of a big turn off for me!!
Helen Y Saddened Woman

Little Rock, AR

#30 Jun 11, 2010
You know, I'm a very devoted christian. I was raised to accept every denomination, and my father actually ministered his own church for a couple of years. When my boyfriend beat me up, (he had no drug and alky problems) and went to jail, the sentence was either a year in jail or teen challenge. The attorneys and court staff took me into a little room off to the side of the courthouse by itself because I was devastated. I could hardly breathe once I found out how long he'd be gone. They told me that I would be able to visit Jack, write, and call him. Well... That all turned out to be a lie. They just told me that out of pure evil.. I was not allowed to see or talk to him the entire time he was there. After him being there, he went in on April and got out on June this year, he sent me one last final letter in late july telling me I would never hear from him or see him again, my boyfriend of eight years... Soon after he entered, I found out that I had PCOS, an ovary problem when you have cysts in them, and that I would have a hard time bearing children. I got a second opinion after I received this diagnoses (they didn't even do an ultrasound) but they assumed that this was the case. Well, I went to the hospital ER itself and told them that I was having extreme pain in my lower abdomen just to get an ultrasound done, and once they did the ultrasound, they found out I was actually PREGNANT at the time. Jack (my ex boyfriend) doesn't even know this, and now that Teen Challenge has done whatever they have to convince him that he didn't need me for some reason or another, he won't see or speak to me. We have been together since age 14, but no longer are. I ended up suffering very bad clinical depression and having to take several therapy sessions, then in turn turning to even my dentist for guidance. (His mom saw the same dentist and she referred me to her) So to all you people who think you are saved or whatever from drugs and alcohol, I want you to think about a previously abused beaten mother who now has to take care of her child all by herself, while you're saying that to take someone away from their family for over a year is alright. I really want you to think about that... Because I'm pretty sure in God's eyes, it's NOT OKAY.
Helen Y ANGRY Woman

Little Rock, AR

#31 Jun 11, 2010
And I'm not saying that they don't help people, that's clearly obvious, but learning to follow God's example and playing God are two totally different things!! The money thing is also right. When he went in, they didn't even provide soap, so I supplied that until he sent me the letter. He's also deathly allergic to poison ivy, which he got there on a couple of occasions while doing hard labor and the infirmary just shrugged it off like it was no big deal. He told me in some of his letters that they would work allll day sometimes, and all they'd get to eat was just one peanut butter and jelly sandwich and a bottle of water. They said that just to do his paperwork it was almost 600 dollars. NOW, what is FREE about that. If you want REAL HELP, go to a church, find a minister, or even someone from off the street and ask them to pray with you, pray for your recovery. I'm glad I don't have a drug or alcohol problem because I know I can't afford that money!!
Hungry and Scared

Indianapolis, IN

#32 Jun 11, 2010
Well, Helen, maybe you were an enabler. Maybe you were someone that would have brought this person down when he came back to you...even if you weren't trying to. I'm sorry that this occurred in your life, but I'm sure Jack did whatever he needed to do to live a good life. Or, another possibility is that Jack decided to get out and become a horrible, horrible man and he didn't want to hurt you. Whatever it is, I hope you can make peace, and I hope Jack is doing alright.
Helen Y ANGRY Woman

Little Rock, AR

#33 Jun 11, 2010
To previous post.

Yeah, I figured somebody on here would say something like that. Really, you have no business or right to say that. Jack actually became a better person when he was with me, I helped him kick his habit of cigarrettes, then when he started in on the hard stuff, I gave him an ultimatum of whether or not he wanted me or the drugs. I actually won an award for a poem I wrote for him about his drug problem previously, which is now in a plaque that hangs on my wall. He was completly lost sometimes, and I'm not building myself up or anything, but I would always spring ideas on him such as crazy spontansous activities to do or art prjects (he's a great artist) so he would not think about the bad stuff. And let me ask you something Hungry and Scared, have you ever had to raise a child on your own? While the other parent still resides in the same town as you?? My baby doesn't have a daddy, he does, but he doesn't. He'll never know his real daddy. And that hurts me more than anything, I don't care what happens with Jack, I do wish the best but I have made peace with the fact that he isn't here. I'm not angry at him or TC or God, God is the only one that was there for me when Jack chose not to be.
Doug Clore

United States

#34 Jul 30, 2010
I graduated Greater Cleveland Induction Center in June of 1998 and Rhersburg Advanced training Center , PA, in January 1999. Twelve years later everything they taught me at Teen Challenge still works. One of the first things they taught me is to look to Jesus, not man, for your example of how to live. Another was to take responsibility for my own life, and not to think too highly of myself. My best attempts at life ended in a residential rehabilitation facility. Many of you are the same. Funny how some of us have forgotten where we came from and how we got there, and have all of a sudden become experts.
The Eradicator

Cape Girardeau, MO

#35 Jul 30, 2010
Hey if believing in sky genies helps you kick drugs, more power to you.
Crooked

Sikeston, MO

#36 Jul 30, 2010
Helen Y ANGRY Woman wrote:
To previous post.
I helped him kick his habit of cigarrettes, then when he started in on the hard stuff, I gave him an ultimatum of whether or not he wanted me or the drugs. I actually won an award for a poem I wrote for him about his drug problem previously, which is now in a plaque that hangs on my wall. He was completly lost sometimes, and I'm not building myself up or anything, but I would always spring ideas on him such as crazy spontansous activities to do or art prjects (he's a great artist) so he would not think about the bad stuff.
But your 1st post said "When my boyfriend beat me up,(he had no drug and alky problems) and went to jail"

You may have a slight issue with the truth.
Is anyone surprised

London, KY

#37 Sep 2, 2010
Hello. I worked as a secretary for a director of Teen Challenge in a certain state so I do know something about it. I was personally involved in what went on there.
For those of you with bad experiences, I will say this: Even in Godly churches, there will be a few present who do not really worship God. That's because we live in a sinful world.
I'm not surprised that some have had bad experiences who were in Teen Challenge but I do know that many have great experiences and I saw that first hand. The director of this particular Teen Challenge is someone who I often tell people was the greatest example of Jesus in my life that I ever witnessed.
I saw him help lead many of those men to Christ.
However, as with anything on this earth, we will have those who complain and try to influence others in a bad direction because they have their own agenda.
Maybe the man who started this post truly believes all Teen Challenges will provide those who are in them with bad leadership and bad experiences. I truly doubt that though.
I have had bad experiences in some churches but that didn't mean all churches or even all of that particular church was not from God.
Grow up and mature in Christ. If you had a bad experience, be a part of making it better! But don't defame something God has done a mighty work through because you have a bitter, unforgiving heart!
Been there

Melrose Park, IL

#38 Sep 2, 2010
Instead of going to TC, maybe going to 12 step meetings and attending the church of your choice is a better idea. That's what I'm doing, I'm staying sober, finding God in church, meeting alot of good people in NA. I wish someone would've told me b4 I went to TC, it would've saved my Dad a thousand bucks! BTW I only stayed at TC chicago for 3 weeks and they were the worst three weeks of my life.
Weight lifter

Chicago, IL

#39 Sep 3, 2010
R we really suprised another scandal surrounds Jesus? Nobody has to tell me to keep my kids away from this program, if it reads a bible it may as well have the plague. Here's a funny fact. Holland has the highest atheist % of pop of any country in the world at 80%. They also have almost no crime. No child abuse, no kidnapping. Religion is a crutch for sick people to cover their concience. Take your church vans and your flyers and move to an island nobody needs u anymore.
Easyrider

Jackson, MO

#40 Sep 3, 2010
The Teen Challenge cure is to substitute an over indulgence in drugs with an over indulgence in religion. Works for some.

“Life's hard. Wear a helmet.”

Since: Nov 09

Sedgewickville, MO

#41 Sep 3, 2010
Im Just Sayin wrote:
God is absolutely the ONLY way someone is going to recover from drugs and alcohol.
I've seen people do it without religion.

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