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guest3891

Jackson, MO

#21 Aug 19, 2012
Ron Myers wrote:
I am a college educated independent voter. I try very hard to stay informed and vote the candidate, not the party. Part of staying informed is watching all networks, and I have to say while fox is a right wing network at least they report both sides of a story. MSNBC is purely propaganda and intolerance of conservatives. According to Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow, and Al Sharpton if you don't vote left you aren't worthy of a vote at all. Fox may be to the far right, but there us nothing fair or balanced about our left wing network.
Nice point!...I still think Republicans prefer to do interviews on Fox news because of the fact that they know they will be fairer than MSNBC and CNN....you took my thunder because I didn't articulate my point that well lol
guest3891

Jackson, MO

#22 Aug 19, 2012
Guest wrote:
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Wow. What I said went completely over your head. You accuse ME of not reading? Son, you need to learn to focus.
Sorry but your comment didn't say anything I haven't already addressed. I didn't try to prove anything with MSNBC being leftists, nor did this go over my head....I already named shows that aren't all the way to the right, like Shep Smith, The Five, etc....my last point is that whomever started this thread I first commented on "my opinion" of the shows that are fair and balanced and the shows, and networks that are either entirely left, or entirely right...I'm happy to have this debate because this is what I do for a living...so are my comments going over your head sir or ma'am?
guest3891

Jackson, MO

#23 Aug 19, 2012
Guest wrote:
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My father in law is a conservative and readily admits their news coverage is biased. As for MSNBC, what are you trying to prove? So what if their shows lean to the left? Name one Fox News that doesn't lean to the right.
As for your father in law, have you ever heard of liberal conservatives?...they do exist and maybe he is just as Chief Justice John Roberts is a liberal conservative....i should have rephrased my comment as "most liberal and democrats" are the only ones who think that Fox news is biased...sorry that i didn't read the first part to your comment...i was half sleep this morning when i responded ha ha
guest3891

Jackson, MO

#24 Aug 19, 2012
guest wrote:
yeah the republicans only have one propaganda station while the democrats have CNN, msnbc, abc, CBS, NBc, NPR, PBS, etc
Republicans have talk radio that reach a higher mass of voters than TV..not everyone has a TV or cable but most have radio and when people are in their cars, semi-trucks, etc., they have talk radio, where majority of the hosts are strong to the right...when people are at home i don't think the majority tune in to the news unless its local, or an elder demographic.
Ron Myers

Marquand, MO

#25 Aug 19, 2012
I'm not here to steal thunder. And it's only fair to say though I'm independent I am more conservative than I am liberal. There are tenants of each party I despise. Btw the little gal on MSNBC right now is not helping the leftist cause in any way. Shows like hers are the biggest issue I have with MSNBC. All she can do is cut down the right, without offering her opinion on how to help anyone. They like to acknowledge the problems but do little to fix them.
guest3891

Jackson, MO

#26 Aug 19, 2012
Ron Myers wrote:
I'm not here to steal thunder. And it's only fair to say though I'm independent I am more conservative than I am liberal. There are tenants of each party I despise. Btw the little gal on MSNBC right now is not helping the leftist cause in any way. Shows like hers are the biggest issue I have with MSNBC. All she can do is cut down the right, without offering her opinion on how to help anyone. They like to acknowledge the problems but do little to fix them.
I was just thinking the same thing to where i said to myself this show is boring because its one sided!...melissa harris right?..i was just on Fox where they showed both sides of the medicare debate..thats all i mean when i say that Fox is fair and balanced, except the opinion shows, which are opinion shows for a reason and they typically lean right..but i've seen them go after Republicans also.
Ron Myers

Marquand, MO

#27 Aug 19, 2012
guest3891 wrote:
<quoted text>I was just thinking the same thing to where i said to myself this show is boring because its one sided!...melissa harris right?..i was just on Fox where they showed both sides of the medicare debate..thats all i mean when i say that Fox is fair and balanced, except the opinion shows, which are opinion shows for a reason and they typically lean right..but i've seen them go after Republicans also.
They go after the right republicans. In fairness they rip on low profile party members. Lol they know which side their bread is buttered on. But yeah, Harris is the epitome of leftist...dare I say socialist...worker bee. Her panel for a discussion on Ryan consisted of herself, two democratic political consultants, a huffington post editor, and some leftist blogger. I mean come on, that's not presenting a story. That's five opposing party members complaining!
guest3891

Jackson, MO

#28 Aug 19, 2012
Ron Myers wrote:
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They go after the right republicans. In fairness they rip on low profile party members. Lol they know which side their bread is buttered on. But yeah, Harris is the epitome of leftist...dare I say socialist...worker bee. Her panel for a discussion on Ryan consisted of herself, two democratic political consultants, a huffington post editor, and some leftist blogger. I mean come on, that's not presenting a story. That's five opposing party members complaining!
Exactly!...i still say Al sharpton is worse than her though...i agree on Fox's rip of the Republican party's low ranking members, but they've went after the Speaker before too...thats how all the left wing media does when they call themselves criticizing a democrat..they'll pick a little issue about Obama and talk about it for only a day or they'll just pick some democrat that is not known.
guest3891

Jackson, MO

#29 Aug 19, 2012
@ Ron Myers...what do you think of Obama possibly dumping Biden on the VP slot and going with Hillary Clinton?..i don't think it will happen, and if it does it will be one of those scenarios that Biden has health problems and Obama has accepted his resignation and will move with Hillary as VP..Biden is making so many mistakes that he is either purposely doing it as a tactic, or he's just not that bright to be in the nations second highest office!
guest

Cape Girardeau, MO

#30 Aug 19, 2012
guest3891 wrote:
<quoted text>As for your father in law, have you ever heard of liberal conservatives?...they do exist and maybe he is just as Chief Justice John Roberts is a liberal conservative....i should have rephrased my comment as "most liberal and democrats" are the only ones who think that Fox news is biased...sorry that i didn't read the first part to your comment...i was half sleep this morning when i responded ha ha
I *think* I know my father in law pretty well, thank you. He's in his mid 60's, owns a business and quite a few properties in southeast MO, is wealthy, and the true definition of a conservative when it comes to political beliefs. But unlike most of his kind, he's able to see through that Fox News "fair and balanced" smokescreen.

Also, I asked you to name one Fox News (program) that doesn't lean right. You answered with this rambling post...
"..blahblahblah third is I'm an independent and responded to a comment that you clearly didn't read before jumping down on me because I named the shows on Fox that lean completely right...thanks for proving my point about why I blahblahblah..."

I didn't ask you to name the Fox News shows that lean completely right.

If this really is what you do for a living, perhaps you should consider a career change.
guest3891

Jackson, MO

#31 Aug 19, 2012
guest wrote:
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I *think* I know my father in law pretty well, thank you. He's in his mid 60's, owns a business and quite a few properties in southeast MO, is wealthy, and the true definition of a conservative when it comes to political beliefs. But unlike most of his kind, he's able to see through that Fox News "fair and balanced" smokescreen.
Also, I asked you to name one Fox News (program) that doesn't lean right. You answered with this rambling post...
"..blahblahblah third is I'm an independent and responded to a comment that you clearly didn't read before jumping down on me because I named the shows on Fox that lean completely right...thanks for proving my point about why I blahblahblah..."
I didn't ask you to name the Fox News shows that lean completely right.
If this really is what you do for a living, perhaps you should consider a career change.
I like how we nitpick comments when some people misspeak...lets start with you first of all saying "name one fox news that doesn't lean right" shouldn't it be name one fox news show that doesn't lean right? you left out show...i didn't nitpick about that part when you misspoke so lets not do mine...secondly i took that question as sarcasm point not a question, so technically you didn't ask the question with no question mark... should i have answered your question of "so what if their shows lean to the left" too??? EXACTLY.....i answered in the way i did because i never said there are Fox news programs that didn't lean right..i reiterated my point to clarify to you that my first comment was indeed saying that "there are Fox programs that lean right"...like the opinion shows...as for your father in law, why bring him into this picture?...this is your debate not his..don't speak from someone else's experience or opinion, whats your opinion?..he's irrelevant to this discussion and I corrected myself to say that i should had said "most people that think Fox news isn't fair and balance are liberals and democrats" instead of saying all....i see through all smokescreens on every network..do you know the difference between an opinion show and journalist reporting?..because if not, let me clarify once again that the entire Fox news network is not biased...there are just some that are and some that are objective, so that is fair my opinion of fair, not yours, not anyone else's, mine....and i don't have a career in this..i just love a good debate in politics, thats what i mean i do for a living in my spare time...I'm a 29 year old black, successful, independent thinking guy that has a degree in business management and working on a masters of science degree in IT management from University of Illinois, that's my career sir or ma'am.
guest3891

Jackson, MO

#32 Aug 19, 2012
i know my comment has grammatical errors..thats what happens when you type so long and take some parts out and add parts without proofreading thoroughly..so i'll be the first to point that out!
guest

Cape Girardeau, MO

#33 Aug 19, 2012
guest3891 wrote:
I like how we nitpick comments when some people misspeak...lets start with you first of all saying "name one fox news that doesn't lean right" shouldn't it be name one fox news show that doesn't lean right? you left out show...
Yes, which is why when I rephrased it later on, I wrote it as "Name one Fox News (program) that doesn't lean right." The omission was a mistake on my part. Like you, I'm human and make mistakes. Most people would have understood that and therefore would have understood the statement; you're obviously the exception. Moving on...
guest3891 wrote:
secondly i took that question as sarcasm point not a question, so technically you didn't ask the question with no question mark... should i have answered your question of "so what if their shows lean to the left" too???
You're being ridiculous. You can ask that as a question or say it as a statement.

You sound as if you're not very skilled in the art of conversation.

About my father-in-law: Yes, he is relevant to this conversation. I mention his opinion as an example. As in, "he's conservative and even he sees through the Fox News smokescreen." In fact, I specifically said that later on, you even referred to it, and you STILL don't understand it.
guest3891 wrote:
..and i don't have a career in this..i just love a good debate in politics, thats what i mean i do for a living in my spare time...I'm a 29 year old black, successful, independent thinking guy that has a degree in business management and working on a masters of science degree in IT management from University of Illinois, that's my career sir or ma'am.
Well, Mr. Nitpicky, you specifically said debating is your career; now you're saying otherwise.

And since you think it's fun to point out irrelevant details: You're supposed to capitalize "I," and when you're referring to a person, you say "who," not "that."

I think your problem is that you're a young, cocky guy who thinks he knows everything but, in reality, still has a lot of learning to do. One day you'll grow up.
guest

Cape Girardeau, MO

#34 Aug 19, 2012
guest3891 wrote:
i know my comment has grammatical errors..thats what happens when you type so long and take some parts out and add parts without proofreading thoroughly..so i'll be the first to point that out!
Oh, don't worry. You were quick to point out my irrelevant errors, so I was quick to point out yours.
guest3891

Jackson, MO

#35 Aug 19, 2012
guest wrote:
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Yes, which is why when I rephrased it later on, I wrote it as "Name one Fox News (program) that doesn't lean right." The omission was a mistake on my part. Like you, I'm human and make mistakes. Most people would have understood that and therefore would have understood the statement; you're obviously the exception. Moving on...
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you would obviously move on, but i may point out i never corrected you until you got nitpicky, i knew what you meant and this is not a relevant point, i just wanted to let you know i could go to that point to show you how you sounded on correcting others

You're being ridiculous. You can ask that as a question or say it as a statement.
You sound as if you're not very skilled in the art of conversation.
About my father-in-law: Yes, he is relevant to this conversation. I mention his opinion as an example. As in, "he's conservative and even he sees through the Fox News smokescreen." In fact, I specifically said that later on, you even referred to it, and you STILL don't understand it.
<quoted text>

i know you can ask it as a question or statement that was me again being nitpicky about your phrasing of questions that could be taking as a sarcasm point, but was intentionally done to let you know again how you sounded...like i stated before i named shows that were to the right and didnt feel the need to point out those that didnt lean right, because like i said i took that as a statement not a question

Well, Mr. Nitpicky, you specifically said debating is your career; now you're saying otherwise.
And since you think it's fun to point out irrelevant details: You're supposed to capitalize "I," and when you're referring to a person, you say "who," not "that."
I think your problem is that you're a young, cocky guy who thinks he knows everything but, in reality, still has a lot of learning to do. One day you'll grow up.
and again we are being silly in saying that i said i do this as my career...anyone knows that i do this for a living doesnt have to mean i get paid to do this or that im only passionate about debating..again it meant that i love doing this, rather if thats in my spare time, or conversing at a bar, etc...i do think im very knowledgeable in areas i debate in, but i know i have a lot of learning to do, and that i am doing..its not like i go around looking for debates in anything...no thats not me and how did we go from talking about networks being objective or biased to how the conversation is structured...stay on topic next time and dont be so critical about irrelevant things that doesnt pertain to the topic in the conversation..now im done unless it's something else about this topic, and by this topic i mean the original topic, not my comments and how they are structured
guest

Prairie Village, KS

#36 Aug 19, 2012
guest3891 wrote:
<quoted text>and again we are being silly in saying that i said i do this as my career...anyone knows that i do this for a living doesnt have to mean i get paid to do this or that im only passionate about debating..again it meant that i love doing this, rather if thats in my spare time, or conversing at a bar, etc...i do think im very knowledgeable in areas i debate in, but i know i have a lot of learning to do, and that i am doing..its not like i go around looking for debates in anything...no thats not me and how did we go from talking about networks being objective or biased to how the conversation is structured...stay on topic next time and dont be so critical about irrelevant things that doesnt pertain to the topic in the conversation..now im done unless it's something else about this topic, and by this topic i mean the original topic, not my comments and how they are structured
No, we're not being silly. You're nitpicking, so if that's your game, fine. You said you debate for a living. You lied. How can I take anything else you say seriously? And what's with you saying I'm off-topic? Is that what you tell people who point out your BS?
guest

Prairie Village, KS

#37 Aug 19, 2012
guest3891 wrote:
<quoted text>and again we are being silly in saying that i said i do this as my career...anyone knows that i do this for a living doesnt have to mean i get paid to do this or that im only passionate about debating..again it meant that i love doing this, rather if thats in my spare time, or conversing at a bar, etc...i do think im very knowledgeable in areas i debate in, but i know i have a lot of learning to do, and that i am doing..its not like i go around looking for debates in anything...no thats not me and how did we go from talking about networks being objective or biased to how the conversation is structured...stay on topic next time and dont be so critical about irrelevant things that doesnt pertain to the topic in the conversation..now im done unless it's something else about this topic, and by this topic i mean the original topic, not my comments and how they are structured
You're nitpicking. That's how we got onto grammar. If you can nitpick, do can I.
guest

Prairie Village, KS

#38 Aug 19, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text>You're nitpicking. That's how we got onto grammar. If you can nitpick, do can I.
Oh sorry, that should read SO can I. I have to point that out so you'll understand.
guest3891

Jackson, MO

#39 Aug 19, 2012
guest wrote:
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Oh sorry, that should read SO can I. I have to point that out so you'll understand.
this sounds like i know you am but what i...im done because you have no relevance to the topic at hand and your going in circles with every response, nothing new added to the conversation....pointing out a word was nothing to do with grammar, it was just that, a word!...ha ha ha ..if you want to talk about CNN, Fox, MSNBC, i will but not anything else...youre way off base!
guest

Prairie Village, KS

#40 Aug 19, 2012
guest3891 wrote:
<quoted text>this sounds like i know you am but what i...im done because you have no relevance to the topic at hand and your going in circles with every response, nothing new added to the conversation....pointing out a word was nothing to do with grammar, it was just that, a word!...ha ha ha ..if you want to talk about CNN, Fox, MSNBC, i will but not anything else...youre way off base!
You're doing the very things of which you accuse me. You must be a politician.

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