Mormons: We are Christians, too

Each was a distinct personality. President Gordon B. Hinckley addresses the audience in the afternoon session and then strolls off stage. via Salt Lake Tribune

[Harry]

I wonder if Gordon thinks he is a Jew as well?

[Aconstas1]

We are Christians since we believe that Jesus Christ is God's only begotten son. And no he's not a Jew, but we believe that we are adopted into the seed of Abraham and are therefore heirs to the blessings upon his seed.

[Sheryl]

Aconstas1 wrote:

We are Christians since we believe that Jesus Christ is God's only begotten son. And no he's not a Jew, but we believe that we are adopted into the seed of Abraham and are therefore heirs to the blessings upon his seed.

Jesus was raised in the Jewish faith. Also -- from what I understand, when Mormons die they become "gods" and get their own planet! You really believe that silliness?

[QWE]

By their own definition, yes, Mormons are Christian, but not by the definition of Catholic, Protestant, and non-denominational adherents. Of course, the only opinion that matters is God's.

[Robert F]

Sheryl wrote:

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Jesus was raised in the Jewish faith. Also -- from what I understand, when Mormons die they become "gods" and get their own planet! You really believe that silliness?

Greetings Sheryl:
Peace

I wonder if you will get any Mormon takers on that?
In the article it seems they have a problem with the Nicene Creed... Well, that is basic 101 Christianity. And the person that thinks Mormons are Christians are maybe a little(lot) confused.
I am a little leary of people that dress in suits, and are conservative, and always have this weird lighting on their tv show.... And now that this Mitt Romney got $20+million from mainly Utah.... Well if that is not a sign of a cult giving it, and its followers money for a presidential bid.... We will see.

Peace
Sheryl

[Neal]

"but we believe that we are adopted into the seed of Abraham and are therefore heirs to the blessings upon his seed."

Believe what you may, however, you are not adopted and ask any Rabbi the same question. NO! Go smoke some more of that good stuff and pay your tithing. While your at it, make sure you no longer baptise any deceased Jews.

[Terry]

Ask a Rabbi if you have been "adopted" as you say.

And is the LDS church still performing baptisms for the dead on Jews? I hope not!

[Gary]

Ask a Rabbi if the Mormons have been adopted. He'll laugh!

[Jack]

Ok.. please all read and research and you tell yourself what is God's requirement and does he in fact like those who practise vile things..

God's name is Jehovah Ps. 83:18; Isa. 26:4; 42:8, AS; Ex. 6:3

Christ is God's Son and is inferior to Him Matt. 3:17; John 8:42; 14:28; 20:17; 1 Cor. 11:3; 15:28

Christ was first of God's creations Col. 1:15; Rev. 3:14

Christ died on a stake, not a cross Gal. 3:13; Acts 5:30

Christ's human life was paid as a ransom for obedient humans Matt. 20:28; 1 Tim. 2:5, 6; 1 Pet. 2:24

Christ's one sacrifice was sufficient Rom. 6:10; Heb. 9:25-28

Christ was raised from the dead as an immortal spirit person 1 Pet. 3:18; Rom. 6:9; Rev. 1:17, 18

Christ's presence is in spirit John 14:19; Matt. 24:3; 2 Cor. 5:16; Ps. 110:1, 2

We are now in the 'time of the end' Matt. 24:3-14; 2 Tim. 3:1-5; Luke 17:26-30

Kingdom under Christ will rule earth in righteousness and peace Isa. 9:6, 7; 11:1-5; Dan. 7:13, 14; Matt. 6:10

Kingdom will bring ideal living conditions to earth Ps. 72:1-4; Rev. 7:9, 10, 13-17; 21:3, 4

Earth will never be destroyed or depopulated Eccl. 1:4; Isa. 45:18; Ps. 78:69

God will eliminate present system of things in the battle at Har-Magedon Rev. 16:14, 16; Zeph. 3:8; Dan. 2:44; Isa. 34:2; 55:10, 11

Wicked will be eternally destroyed Matt. 25:41-46; 2 Thess. 1:6-9

People God approves will receive everlasting life John 3:16; 10:27, 28; 17:3; Mark 10:29, 30

There is only one road to life Matt. 7:13, 14; Eph. 4:4, 5

Human death is due to Adam's sin Rom. 5:12; 6:23
The human soul ceases to exist at death Ezek. 18:4; Eccl. 9:10; Ps. 6:5; 146:4; John 11:11-14

Hell is mankind's common grave Job 14:13, Dy; Rev. 20:13, 14, AV (margin)

Hope for dead is resurrection 1 Cor. 15:20-22; John 5:28, 29; 11:25, 26

Adamic death will cease 1 Cor. 15:26, 54; Rev. 21:4; Isa. 25:8

Only a little flock of 144,000 go to heaven and rule with Christ Luke 12:32; Rev. 14:1, 3; 1 Cor. 15:40-53; Rev. 5:9, 10

The 144,000 are born again as spiritual sons of God 1 Pet. 1:23; John 3:3; Rev. 7:3, 4

New covenant is made with spiritual Israel Jer. 31:31; Heb. 8:10-13

Christ's congregation is built upon himself Eph. 2:20; Isa. 28:16; Matt. 21:42

Prayers are to be directed only to Jehovah through Christ John 14:6, 13, 14; 1 Tim. 2:5
Images should not be used in worship Ex. 20:4, 5; Lev. 26:1; 1 Cor. 10:14; Ps. 115:4-8

Spiritism must be shunned Deut. 18:10-12; Gal. 5:19-21; Lev. 19:31

Satan is invisible ruler of world 1 John 5:19; 2 Cor. 4:4; John 12:31

A Christian ought to have no part in interfaith movements 2 Cor. 6:14-17; 11:13-15; Gal. 5:9; Deut. 7:1-5

A Christian should keep separate from world Jas. 4:4; 1 John 2:15; John 15:19; 17:16

Obey human laws that do not conflict with God's laws Matt. 22:20, 21; 1 Pet. 2:12; 4:15

Taking blood into body through mouth or veins violates God's laws Gen. 9:3, 4; Lev. 17:14; Acts 15:28, 29

Bible's laws on morals must be obeyed 1 Cor. 6:9, 10; Heb. 13:4; 1 Tim. 3:2; Prov. 5:1-23

Sabbath observance was given only to Israel and ended with Mosaic Law Deut. 5:15; Ex. 31:13; Rom. 10:4; Gal. 4:9, 10; Col. 2:16, 17

A clergy class and special titles are improper Matt. 23:8-12; 20:25-27; Job 32:21, 22

Man did not evolve but was created Isa. 45:12; Gen. 1:27; Matt. 19:4

Christ set example that must be followed in serving God 1 Pet. 2:21; Heb. 10:7; John 4:34; 6:38

Baptism by complete immersion symbolizes dedication Mark 1:9, 10; John 3:23; Acts 19:4, 5

Christians gladly give public testimony to Scriptural truth Rom. 10:10; Heb. 13:15; Isa. 43:10-12 and all those who become baptised take on the command to witness to the world and then the end will come mathew 24:14
They are Gods witnesses, or in other words Jehovah's witnesses, as they have been taught truth about Jehovah and his ways and requirements.

[Robert F]

Neal wrote:

"but we believe that we are adopted into the seed of Abraham and are therefore heirs to the blessings upon his seed."
Believe what you may, however, you are not adopted and ask any Rabbi the same question. NO! Go smoke some more of that good stuff and pay your tithing. While your at it, make sure you no longer baptise any deceased Jews.

Greetings Neal:
Peace

So do you get some planets. And the more wives you have the more planets? Sheryl and I didn't get a response. Oh, by the way are you married, or do you marry in heaven?

People believe all sorts of things....That doesn't make them real, realistic, or true....

Peace
Robert

[Robert F]

Neal wrote:

"but we believe that we are adopted into the seed of Abraham and are therefore heirs to the blessings upon his seed."
Believe what you may, however, you are not adopted and ask any Rabbi the same question. NO! Go smoke some more of that good stuff and pay your tithing. While your at it, make sure you no longer baptise any deceased Jews.

Greetings Neal:
Peace

I had a nice response for you but it got lost in the mail....
Believing you are adopted seed of Abraham is nice. So do the Muslims. But believing it and knowing its true is something else.
You did not answer if you believe you are going to get a planet. And the more wives you have, the more planets you get....
Believing something does not make it true...

Peace
Robert

[Scott]

It is fun to see these LDS idiots pile out of the church parking lot, cutting each other off, not coming to a complete stop, not using turn signals and speeding. And they are supposed to be Christ like. yeah right.

[PERPLEXED]

doesnt being a "christian" require believing in the CHRIST as history refrences in the Bible? i think that ought be your first clue that mormonism doest NOT follow or believe the JESUS that my bible speaks of just look @ the fruit??? i agree just because you want to believe something doesnt make it real, or true. unless your the one and only???? hmmm

[Ted]

stop being perplexed in vegas. these sheeple have no clue who they are nor what they believe in. they think that an angel appeared with gold plates for christ's sake. they are all smoking crack.

[ROB]

For those on this board denegrating Mormons, most ya'll sure seem to be hate mongers, attempting to proliferate your supposed Christianity as hateful human beings. If ya'll are Christians and supposed followers of Jesus, I'll think twice about coming to your church.

[Aconstas1]

As far as baptism for the dead, i will referr you to the new testament when Paul was explaining that resurrection will certainly occurr for all people quote "else what shall they do those who are baptised for the dead" end quote. Feel free to read about it in your local King James Version of the Holy Bible. And since baptism was required by the Lord to enter into the kingdom of God, yes we do baptisms for our deceased ancestors.

The ordinance of baptism for the dead was reintroduced during the Restoration of Jesus Christs church to the earth by a modern day prophet of the Lord.

As far as marrying in heaven... I don't know where you got that since in the Holy Bible the Lord tells us that in heaven we are neither given away nor taken in marriage. Those ordinaces have to be performed on earth, not in heaven. However, God has given man the authority and power to "bind on earth and it shall be bound in heaven, or to loose on earth and it shall be loosed in heaven." This would apply to the sealing ordinances performed in the Holy Temples of the Lord by those who hold that Priesthood authority.

No one in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints claims that Jesus Christ came from another planet. He was the firstborn spirit of God the Eternal father. He created worlds without number under the direction of the Father. Then he came to this earth, was born of a virgin, set up his church, was crucified and resurrected, and now lives with our Heavenly Father. If he created worlds before coming to earth, we have no reason to believe that He will not continue to create worlds after his death and resurrection if He so chooses.

There is also no teaching that says that "you as a Mormon will have a planet when you die". Being a Mormon does not guarantee anyone anything after this life. We believe that all mankind may be saved by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel. This applies to Mormons and non-Mormons. We believe that we can be heirs to God and Joint heirs to Jesus Christ as the Holy Bible tells us. We hope for greater possibilities after this life. We have been taught by Modern Day prophets of the Lord about our possibilities after this period on earth. If you don't agree with us, That's OK! you have your agency. We still love you and would do anything to serve you if you need help. I would lay my life down for others to have the freedom believe contrary to my beliefs and I showed it by serving 7 yrs in the military.

Have a Blessed Day.

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[Brad]

Here we go again! Rob making assumptions of others here on the board. Who says I am a "Christian" and a Jesus lover? I say screw Jesus and the LDS church. Anyone who believes in either of them are smoking the crack pipe. Try living in SLC before opeing your mouth big shot.

[StcknMormonville]

So you don't believe in having all the wives you want in your Celestrial Kingdom?. Women will not be Goddessess? And there is no tokens you will need or secret handshake?

You must admit there are some strange beliefs in the Mormon Church, that osmeone who has not been raised in it can't possibly begin to understand. It all seems so ridiculous to us non members.

I, also, tend to believe that the majority of Mormons are born into the religion and are never given a choice. There is substanial brainwashing and control. I have witnessed this firsthand.
The Mormons I know are very judgemental and hypocritical.

No one can possibly live up to all the rules. And they prove this over and over, yet hide it from the members of their wards.

Also, if your body is supposed to be a temple, why are a huge percentage of you FAT, Yet, look down on someone for drinking a glass of wine?

And the niceness is just plain phony, imo. You are taught to be this way,so people will think you're wonderful want to convert.

LOt's of people served in the MIlitary that aren't Mormon's, so what's your point?

[Brad]

I, also, tend to believe that the majority of Mormons are born into the religion and are never given a choice. There is substantial brainwashing and control. I have witnessed this firsthand.
The Mormons I know are very judgemental and hypocritical.

Good point! I was raised in the LDS crap. Had to go to seminary, do the boy scouts BS, all the priesthood crap and was finally free from the crap when I was 18 and went into the military. What a relief to see the other side. The crap the LDS church shoves down your throat will make you sick. You are correct about these folks being "nice" and loving. Go to Wal-Mart in Provo (LDS town) or Layton or Syracuse and notice the majority of these loving folks cut in front of you, don't say excuse me, are rude, arrogant and selfish.

Joseph Smith is a FARCE!