Parents say curfew fine too much

Parents say curfew fine too much

There are 52 comments on the Daily News story from Apr 30, 2007, titled Parents say curfew fine too much. In it, Daily News reports that:

“It's a county code that Santa Clarita adopted. Many other places have this code”

The city's curfew law is intended to crack down on youth crime in Santa Clarita, but parents are complaining that the $433 fine is excessive, and the ACLU has challenged similar laws in other cities finding ... via Daily News

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Katie

Burbank, CA

#42 Jun 30, 2011
Good parent's don't let their kids roam the streets after 10pm on weeknights. Parents who have no control over their teenagers are the cause of the teenage influx of bad behavior, drinking and violence. If there were more parents who controlled their children and knew where they were rather than chasing that almighty dollar and buying their kids off there would be no need for this curfew law. I approve of the law, but know that if my kids get one, I won't pay for it, they will do community service to pay it off. THAT is teaching them a lesson they pay for. All of you parents who are paying for them deserve to be if you can't keep a handle on your children or if you don't care enough about them to use a little tough love to keep them at home. Rules are meant to protect. What about the rights of the citizens that do not want a bunch of drunk teens running around their neighborhoods? If you teach your kids to just be respectful and home, many of them would never get the ticket in the first place. Take responsibility now so you kids learn to do the same. You can't pick and choose which laws you want to abide by, it is what it is and when you teen is killed by a drunk driver because he or she was out too late, then you will know why these laws exist. it's not to punish the teen so much as it is to protect them. BAD people come out at night and good kids are killed and harmed all the time by those bad people.
curfew in santa clarita

Santa Clarita, CA

#43 Jul 8, 2011
Sorry folks but I am all for them. We are tired of irresponsible kids who vadalise and theire parents who don't hold them accountable for their kids destruction. Our neighborhood is fed up and we're calling for help. I agree some kids who are legit and going on the way home shouldn't get one but the loiters should. I say hang at your own home and destroy it not our streets.
curfew in santa clarita

Santa Clarita, CA

#44 Jul 8, 2011
I agree Katie. I get my kids in by 10pm. These other parent's don't even punish the kids when they get caught doing bad things and are still roaming around with cell phones and other kids who drive and buy their smokes. It is such a reflection on the parent's. Bad things do happen and young teen girls shouldn't be out roaming alone looking to hang with guys. Step up parent's you are THE PARENT. I see so many single moms who are more interested in their lives, boyfriends and fixing up their homes then their fixing their kids.
curfew in santa clarita

Santa Clarita, CA

#45 Jul 8, 2011
irrelivant wrote:
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so if you see a teen at 5 P.M. would you report them for an imaginary crime you want to see them doing so you can have some fun?
Weren't you a teen at one point?
You are exactly the kind of person that this world needs less of.
You and 90% of the police in SCV need to find something better to do besides spreading your own hate amongst the city.
It's very hypcritical of you to talk about people looking for fights when you yourself are looking for the police to lock up teenagers for actually enjoying their free time and doing something more productive than giving this city uneeded money and wasted time...
I agree and am and will report these thugs who are scary and sad. I was a teen once and Never did this crud. I SAY REPORT AND LETS MAKE THEIR PARENTS PAY FOR LACK OF PARENTING.
curfew in santa clarita

Santa Clarita, CA

#46 Jul 8, 2011
irrelivant I want to know what they are doing that is so productive, smoking, pan handling, tipping trash cans...come on dude get real.
osvaldo

Tulsa, OK

#47 Jul 13, 2011
I was at a park for like 2 minutes when I got out the car and 2 cops pull up behind me they searched me n start questioning me n one of my friend. Stupid cops gave me a ticket saying I have to go to court.I'm guessing they followed me in but I don't even care anymore. Todays the day I have to go to court so wish me luck.They make you go through the dumbest shit just for a public park curfew...
Peggy

Granada Hills, CA

#49 Aug 18, 2011
Katie wrote:
Good parent's don't let their kids roam the streets after 10pm on weeknights. Parents who have no control over their teenagers are the cause of the teenage influx of bad behavior, drinking and violence. If there were more parents who controlled their children and knew where they were rather than chasing that almighty dollar and buying their kids off there would be no need for this curfew law. I approve of the law, but know that if my kids get one, I won't pay for it, they will do community service to pay it off. THAT is teaching them a lesson they pay for. All of you parents who are paying for them deserve to be if you can't keep a handle on your children or if you don't care enough about them to use a little tough love to keep them at home. Rules are meant to protect. What about the rights of the citizens that do not want a bunch of drunk teens running around their neighborhoods? If you teach your kids to just be respectful and home, many of them would never get the ticket in the first place. Take responsibility now so you kids learn to do the same. You can't pick and choose which laws you want to abide by, it is what it is and when you teen is killed by a drunk driver because he or she was out too late, then you will know why these laws exist. it's not to punish the teen so much as it is to protect them. BAD people come out at night and good kids are killed and harmed all the time by those bad people.
Katie, Please examine the assumptions you have made, and the conclusions you draw. First, you assume that all people under the age of 18 are committing some kind of crime if they are not at home after 10pm, or at least aimlessly seeking dangerous situations simply by being in public! Wow,and being peacefully in a public place is "disrespectful?" Look at the legal precedent you are supporting by this kind of thinking, my dear. How about your disregard for the rights of others to exist, so long as they are respecting the rights of others? YOU exhibit very little regard for freedom and support the kind of thinking that leads to a police state where individual rights do not exist. Yes, just rules are meant to protect -- our INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS. There are already laws against any offensive behavior or violent acts that "drunken teens" may commit. Let them be arrested if they are actually doing anything offensive. You have far more to fear by living under a legal system that does not respect individual liberty, than you do by teens who are peacefully "out in public".
freedy gavina

Los Angeles, CA

#50 Oct 26, 2011
Jim Hensley wrote:
I am LAPD and i think that the curfew tickets are to high priced. The police force should not be handing out tickets in front of peoples own property for this has happened to my nephew. The police also shouldn't be harassing people so they could get paid for the month.
thts y ppl think they should stop givin tickets
Mom_of_7

Burbank, CA

#51 Oct 31, 2011
libertarian wrote:
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excuse me I have the right to be outside at night just as much as the next native American. if I'm "getting in trouble" THEN it's perfectly okay to arrest me for what I'm doing. cops have nothing better to do at night than eat donuts, catch teenagers, and ticket people doing 35 in a 25 mph school zone. true story. there is no magical age for which it is suddenly safe and okay to be out all night. if I wanted to swing in the park at 12:30 AM, which I was, then damn right I'm gonna swing in the park at 12:30 AM
Then expect to get a ticket....county parks are closed at night....and you are still a minor if you are not 18. Always trying to do what you shouldn't just to get a rise. That's what is wrong with this generation of young people. Don't want rules, UNTIL someone breaks them and hurts THEM. Selfish teenagers who have been handed everything and taught no respect for authority or rules....
Katie

Burbank, CA

#52 Oct 31, 2011
Peggy wrote:
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Katie, Please examine the assumptions you have made, and the conclusions you draw. First, you assume that all people under the age of 18 are committing some kind of crime if they are not at home after 10pm, or at least aimlessly seeking dangerous situations simply by being in public! Wow,and being peacefully in a public place is "disrespectful?" Look at the legal precedent you are supporting by this kind of thinking, my dear. How about your disregard for the rights of others to exist, so long as they are respecting the rights of others? YOU exhibit very little regard for freedom and support the kind of thinking that leads to a police state where individual rights do not exist. Yes, just rules are meant to protect -- our INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS. There are already laws against any offensive behavior or violent acts that "drunken teens" may commit. Let them be arrested if they are actually doing anything offensive. You have far more to fear by living under a legal system that does not respect individual liberty, than you do by teens who are peacefully "out in public".
Well, it's not an assumption. As the wife of someone who works the parks of Los Angeles County, 98% of them are doing something wrong or preparing to and MOST of the time the other 2% simply have their parents called to come and get them with just a warning. NOBODY gets arrested for curfew, so you are completely mistaken there. They only get arrested if they are doing something they shouldn't. And being in a CLOSED place after it's CLOSED is something wrong and being out after curfew, since it is a law is also something WRONG. They are UNDER 18 and by that alone do not HAVE the "individual liberty" rights that adults have and you bet I support that. You sound like someone who would let your kids run rampant or you are one yourself. Rules are rules and it has nothing to do with personal freedom. The parks are closed at night because they are generally deserted and as we all know bad things DO happen in dark and deserted places, it's not always teenagers, of course, but Law Enforcement must protect the teens, especially when the parents don't bother to do so. It is disrespectful to be peacefully anywhere when you are breaking the law to do so. PERIOD!!! Once again, selfish people want individual liberties ahead of public safety. So maybe a few aren't trying to be bad, but the majority are and unfortunately in this society the few good are punished for the majority of the bad. That's just life and we must deal with it to protect the majority.
Katie

Burbank, CA

#53 Oct 31, 2011
valenciamike wrote:
My daughter received a curfew ticket at 1230 coming home from a graduation party she is 17 and 11 months went to court 433 bucks I don't know why they wasted our time they should just send a bill in the mail the judge didn't want to hear anything. But on the way out I did find a bunch of very important looking keys looked like they open every door in that shit hole he he
What an example for your teenage, almost adult daughter. Wow....you certainly show WHY teenagers are out breaking the law....I'm sure she's very proud!!!!
Katie

Burbank, CA

#54 Oct 31, 2011
curfew in santa clarita wrote:
irrelivant I want to know what they are doing that is so productive, smoking, pan handling, tipping trash cans...come on dude get real.
I want to know, too. I have teenagers 4 of them and the ONLY time they are out past curfew is when they are at a High School Football game. If they weren't home 15 minutes after wards they KNOW they'd be in more trouble at home then the law. The kids need to be more afraid of their parent than of law enforcement. Sad that parents let law enforcement handle what their lack of parenting created!!! Then they get mad that they have to pay for the tickets...Poetic justice if you ask me.

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