Canutillo school board to vote on bond issue

Full story: El Paso Times

Board members of the Canutillo Independent School District will vote Feb. 3 on a bond proposal that could finance about $39.75 million in district projects.
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StopTheRhetoric

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Jan 28, 2011
 
Canutillo, don't make the mistake of EPISD voters. Avoid the layoffs and continue to improve the education of your students.
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Jan 28, 2011
 
Lets help our kids - Im going to vote yes!
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Jan 28, 2011
 
The blood sucking leaches are at it again! They want more money as tax payers have to curtail their expenses. Why can't the CISD do the same? Because they can do whatever they want in the name of children’s education and get away with it. There are plenty of ignorant, uneducated voters that go along with whatever the district wants. I for one am voting NO, and will continue to vote NO until the district is held accountable for every cent that they spend!
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Jan 28, 2011
 
No way am I going to vote for this. they always say" its for the kids" and they want my kid to get a GED instead of helping him. NO WAY VOTE NO!!!!!!!
Make Dr. Murphy pay out of his pocket, he earns enough. let see if he really is a man of his word.
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Jan 28, 2011
 
Reality check people. The state is cutting monies left and right and the ones being hurt are the kids, not the board, and not the super.(DR.MURPHY) So, stop the crying,dig into your pocketbooks if you are a responsible parent and citizen and if you are really concerned about YOUR CHILDRENS' EDUCATION. I'm pretty sure you don't think twice about spending your money on wants vs needs. Take a tour of the existing facilities and you will realize that the need for this BOND is imperative. Get informed before you make your decision. There are many EDUCATED voters in Canutillo-I being one of them. The BOND would be for brick and mortar, the TRE is for the operation of the school.The impact on a $100K home at a $1.58 tax rate, which includes both the BOND and the TRE would go from $1098 to $1233,that's a $135 annual difference, divided by 12 that's about $12 a month. I'd say that's $12.00 a month WELL INVESTED!
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Jan 29, 2011
 
EDUCATED resident -parent wrote:
Reality check people. The state is cutting monies left and right and the ones being hurt are the kids, not the board, and not the super.(DR.MURPHY) So, stop the crying,dig into your pocketbooks if you are a responsible parent and citizen and if you are really concerned about YOUR CHILDRENS' EDUCATION. I'm pretty sure you don't think twice about spending your money on wants vs needs. Take a tour of the existing facilities and you will realize that the need for this BOND is imperative. Get informed before you make your decision. There are many EDUCATED voters in Canutillo-I being one of them. The BOND would be for brick and mortar, the TRE is for the operation of the school.The impact on a $100K home at a $1.58 tax rate, which includes both the BOND and the TRE would go from $1098 to $1233,that's a $135 annual difference, divided by 12 that's about $12 a month. I'd say that's $12.00 a month WELL INVESTED!
You sound like one of the (fat staff and parent) CISD Facilities Stakeholders Committee Members, if you are so into helping the kids why don't you pay double of your tax increase, since I am voting NO! Also if you are "one of the EDUCATED voters" where did you get your education? The structural condition of the facilities have been in a dire state year's before you went on your tour, and it is the fault of the school board, you would not know brick and mortar if it hit you in the ass! So stop lecturing your lame crying only to your convenience.
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Jan 29, 2011
 
Give me a Break wrote:
The blood sucking leaches are at it again! They want more money as tax payers have to curtail their expenses. Why can't the CISD do the same? Because they can do whatever they want in the name of children’s education and get away with it. There are plenty of ignorant, uneducated voters that go along with whatever the district wants. I for one am voting NO, and will continue to vote NO until the district is held accountable for every cent that they spend!
The poor excuse of using the kids as an excuse to levy not one but two tax burdens to the district of Canutillo (taxpayers), are nothing but mirrors and smoke screens, they imagine they see a big "P" on our fore heads! As long as we have the same political group running the school board there is no way we should vote for any Bond or TRE. The membership of the facilities stakeholders committee members include a couple of employees who worked under the fired facility director, the right hand man of our congressman, a few over weight staff members, a jr. reporter who was earning $25.000 at the Daily Planet(El Paso Times)and now getting $80.000 as information officer in Canutillo, and community members who never attend a school board meeting. "Give me a Break" I agree with you, I also will vote NO and I encourage everyone in the Canutillo ISD to send a message to our pea-brain leaders to stop using our kids as an excuse.
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Jan 29, 2011
 
EDUCATED resident -parent wrote:
Reality check people. The state is cutting monies left and right and the ones being hurt are the kids, not the board, and not the super.(DR.MURPHY) So, stop the crying,dig into your pocketbooks if you are a responsible parent and citizen and if you are really concerned about YOUR CHILDRENS' EDUCATION. I'm pretty sure you don't think twice about spending your money on wants vs needs. Take a tour of the existing facilities and you will realize that the need for this BOND is imperative. Get informed before you make your decision. There are many EDUCATED voters in Canutillo-I being one of them. The BOND would be for brick and mortar, the TRE is for the operation of the school.The impact on a $100K home at a $1.58 tax rate, which includes both the BOND and the TRE would go from $1098 to $1233,that's a $135 annual difference, divided by 12 that's about $12 a month. I'd say that's $12.00 a month WELL INVESTED!
Everything was going great until you made that idiotic comment about your education, I would suggest you and the rest of the educated voters (since you no doubt make top dollar) pay for the whole TRE and school bond! Since I am not highly educated will vote no, I would suggest you get and education in life, "An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know, It's being able to differentiate between what you know and what you don't".
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Jan 29, 2011
 
Time to get back to basics, cut the frills. There is tremendous waste in the schools.
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Jan 29, 2011
 
Ankle-biter wrote:
<quoted text>The poor excuse of using the kids as an excuse to levy not one but two tax burdens to the district of Canutillo (taxpayers), are nothing but mirrors and smoke screens, they imagine they see a big "P" on our fore heads! As long as we have the same political group running the school board there is no way we should vote for any Bond or TRE. The membership of the facilities stakeholders committee members include a couple of employees who worked under the fired facility director, the right hand man of our congressman, a few over weight staff members, a jr. reporter who was earning $25.000 at the Daily Planet(El Paso Times)and now getting $80.000 as information officer in Canutillo, and community members who never attend a school board meeting. "Give me a Break" I agree with you, I also will vote NO and I encourage everyone in the Canutillo ISD to send a message to our pea-brain leaders to stop using our kids as an excuse.
Ummmm, nobody attends school board meetings anymore in Canutillo. The drama stopped, and the show ended with the election. The Board just works together now and goes about its business. Nothing really to see and laugh at anymore, thank God.

Sometimes I think Jesus Christ himself could come down from the heavens and tell you naysayers that Canutillo ISD is doing good things right now, and you still would blog crap about everybody. What will it take for you to support the Bond? How about if the Sewer at CMS broke (like it is about to) and raw sewage spilled all over Bosque Road? Would you chip in your support at that point? What would it take for you to support the TRE? Do 50 more people have to lose their jobs first? Sometimes you have to man up and admit you are wrong. This is one of those times.
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Jan 29, 2011
 
Joe wrote:
Time to get back to basics, cut the frills. There is tremendous waste in the schools.
In Canutillo, what frills are you talking about? Do you realize what a bad situation you are in? Murphy inherited a MESS! How many more teachers do you have to lose? How many more open sewers are you going to tolerate? For goodness sake, it takes revenue to run a school district. And you are probably the first to complain that our kids are not as good as kids in other countries. Yet, other countries spend TONS more on their children than what we do. Hell, we aren't even in the top half of the US when it comes to student expenditures. And you have the audacity to say "cut the frills"? Learn before you comment.
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Jan 29, 2011
 
CanutilloResident wrote:
Lets help our kids - Im going to vote yes!
You poor ignorant soul, do you really think a bond election and a TRE will help the kids?? If cutting of personal should occur it will be the non-qualified Exec's and assistants to the assistants. Dr. Garcia's girl friends (hired by Dr. Murphy) and the new ex-times reporter they just hired on. Teachers will not be cut (for the exception of the low quality ones) let's face it we have excess baggage in Central ($1,170,000) for a new central office building, are you kidding me? "I'm going to vote NO"
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Jan 29, 2011
 
Joe wrote:
Time to get back to basics, cut the frills. There is tremendous waste in the schools.
Agree with you, too much senseless spending. But you do have the same idiots supporting it!
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Jan 30, 2011
 
The economy has not recovered, Canutillo has to work within their budget means. Dr. Murphy can take a paycut along with the rest of central admin.
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Jan 30, 2011
 
StopTheRhetoric wrote:
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In Canutillo, what frills are you talking about? Do you realize what a bad situation you are in? Murphy inherited a MESS! How many more teachers do you have to lose? How many more open sewers are you going to tolerate? For goodness sake, it takes revenue to run a school district. And you are probably the first to complain that our kids are not as good as kids in other countries. Yet, other countries spend TONS more on their children than what we do. Hell, we aren't even in the top half of the US when it comes to student expenditures. And you have the audacity to say "cut the frills"? Learn before you comment.
Well....where to start... not only FREE lunch for all, free breakfasts as well. And they just had to have the most expensive building they could come up with, every frill possible. Nevermind the taxpayers who are barely clinging on.

And the extremely massive fraud with all the parents who live in Juarez and New Mexico lined up every morning to drop off van loads of kids. No attempt whatsoever to stop the fraud. In fact the office will inform people they know full well aren't residents to simply find someone who will write a letter claiming they pay rent.

Limit admission to just the students whose parents live in the district, and stop allowing the fraud of using someone else's address.

Get back to basics, teach reading, writing, math, science. And teach in English.
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Jan 30, 2011
 
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Well....where to start... not only FREE lunch for all, free breakfasts as well. And they just had to have the most expensive building they could come up with, every frill possible. Nevermind the taxpayers who are barely clinging on.
And the extremely massive fraud with all the parents who live in Juarez and New Mexico lined up every morning to drop off van loads of kids. No attempt whatsoever to stop the fraud. In fact the office will inform people they know full well aren't residents to simply find someone who will write a letter claiming they pay rent.
Limit admission to just the students whose parents live in the district, and stop allowing the fraud of using someone else's address.
Get back to basics, teach reading, writing, math, science. And teach in English.
You show that you do not know how school finance works. The free breakfast/lunch program has NOTHING to do with a TRE. That is a separate federal program that does not come from the education budget. Since it is against the law (since the Republican Administration of Nixon) to ask for a student's citizenship whereby an employee could lose his/her job by asking,tell us how we are going to solve your unbelievably exaggerated assertion of "illegals"?

What makes you think the basics aren't taught? What makes you think it's not in English? And btw, many US citizens do not learn English as a first language. Many of those children come from homes with two American parents who have college degrees. They are exercising their freedom of choice that is guaranteed in America. If you don't want athletics or Fine Arts, you have to ask yourself if you had them. You probably did. There is hardly a person alive who didn't have them while they were in school. Why should our students now do without?
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Jan 30, 2011
 
Don't go too far, with the issue about Juarez and New Mexico students attending Texas schools, to avoid paying tuition. The Executive Director to your Finance dept. lives in New Mexico, and her son attends Roberts School. And they expect you all, to believe everything they have to offer. Give me a break.
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Jan 30, 2011
 
StopTheRhetoric wrote:
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You show that you do not know how school finance works. The free breakfast/lunch program has NOTHING to do with a TRE. That is a separate federal program that does not come from the education budget. Since it is against the law (since the Republican Administration of Nixon) to ask for a student's citizenship whereby an employee could lose his/her job by asking,tell us how we are going to solve your unbelievably exaggerated assertion of "illegals"?
What makes you think the basics aren't taught? What makes you think it's not in English? And btw, many US citizens do not learn English as a first language. Many of those children come from homes with two American parents who have college degrees. They are exercising their freedom of choice that is guaranteed in America. If you don't want athletics or Fine Arts, you have to ask yourself if you had them. You probably did. There is hardly a person alive who didn't have them while they were in school. Why should our students now do without?
What makes me think they're not teaching the basics? The SAT scores. Very low. And it's time US citizens learn a little English, and that's my very point, that school is so preoccupied with trying to make English a second language only, they aren't bothered by the fact that the students are not making it in TAKS and the SAT.

In fact, I believe if parents cannot make the effort to properly prepare their children for school, which includes language basics (English language), then the child should be held back until the parent does show some responsibility. That school is a great example of a free babysitting service. Take a look at the math and science scores.
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What makes me think they're not teaching the basics? The SAT scores. Very low. And it's time US citizens learn a little English, and that's my very point, that school is so preoccupied with trying to make English a second language only, they aren't bothered by the fact that the students are not making it in TAKS and the SAT.
In fact, I believe if parents cannot make the effort to properly prepare their children for school, which includes language basics (English language), then the child should be held back until the parent does show some responsibility. That school is a great example of a free babysitting service. Take a look at the math and science scores.
What are their SAT scores? How about ACT? Do you know or are you just spewing rhetoric? English isn't being made into a second language. We are in a part of the US where 75% of the population is bilingual. This is a strength, not a weakness. And whether you like it or not, it is America. It is ridiculous to see this otherwise. As for your math and science scores, it is because of how your district is already on its knees because of your finances that were in the toilet before Murphy got there. You need to make education a priority. That doesn't happen when you take money away.
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Jan 30, 2011
 
Someone-sounds like you were at the meeting.You sound like a poor negative soul.You have very right to vote NO if that's what pleases you.If your so upset with the district, then why don't you get more involved like being a member of the facilities committee, or maybe even running for school board. Actions speak louder than words buddy.

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