Canutillo teachers pin hopes on tax vote

Canutillo teachers pin hopes on tax vote

There are 121 comments on the El Paso Times story from May 12, 2011, titled Canutillo teachers pin hopes on tax vote. In it, El Paso Times reports that:

Anji Morgan-Thornton is one of the first-year teachers from the Canutillo Independent School District who was laid off in budget cuts.

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vote no

Laurel, MD

#1 May 13, 2011
Sorry, everyone needs to vote NO on all district tax and bond increases. Districts have wasted untold billions over the years on outrageous central office salaries and other positions that don't help the kids. Test coordinators, curriculum coaches, umpteen assistant superintendents, etc. were positions that were not needed. And how many billions and billions were wasted on ridiculous curriculum programs and teaching materials that were scrapped the following year for the newest, flashiest curriculum program and teaching gadgets? I'll vote yes and encourage others to vote yes when these districts start making cuts at the top, get a handle on spending and actually produce educated students. Don't give us sob stories of educators who might be out of a job. I have no sympathy for them. They should be taking their anger out on the school administration that couldn't get their priorities straight. It's time the public get education apending under control.
Lone Ranger

El Paso, TX

#2 May 13, 2011
Why do less resourceful countries like India or Malaysia produce better (smarter) students for a lot less money than we here in the United States?

The problem with teaching is that that Parents often send to schools their ill prepared children and this means Teachers don't necessarily have something they can work with, but they make due.

Schooling should start at home with the Parents, not at the Department of Education.
TexasGirl

El Paso, TX

#3 May 13, 2011
I do think Can had made many cuts and I do not see high paid central office people. If this does not pass the students will be the ones that suffer. Their classes will be huge and some of the best teachers will go to other districts or jobs outside of education. Lets do what is best for the students and their future.
Voted NO

United States

#4 May 13, 2011
Vote No! This district has been wasting money for years!
Louis

United States

#5 May 13, 2011
I voted yes also. I can't bear to think of the children missing out on anything. I want them to receive the same high quality education that I did.
Butter Bean

United States

#6 May 13, 2011
Only a fool would vote for this nonsense. The public is finished with the enormous waste and corruption in education. Clean up your act and you will be able to live on what you have.

Since: May 11

United States

#7 May 13, 2011
If you vote yes, more wasted money will go to the school district who couldn't handle a budget in the first place. Personally, my school district will lose 40 teachers.
TexasGirl

El Paso, TX

#8 May 13, 2011
If you are unhappy with the way money is spent, show up at schoolboard meetings and sign up to speak. Do not cost the students a quality education by losing good teachers to prove your point. It sounds like this is for salaries so I do not see how money can be wasted on hiring good teachers. Every district has to show how their funds are used. YOu can request the information and follow the trail of money.
EPISD TEACHER

El Paso, TX

#9 May 13, 2011
Good luck CISD, hopefully you won't be screwed over by your own teachers like we were last year, and now look what is going on, teachers handed pink slips before TAKS took place, and why? Because they didn't want a minimal increase in property taxes, when the payoff would have been job security, lower insurance premiums (instead of now ridiculous premiums), more funding to help deal with the increased expectations on TAKS, oh and a healthy raise for TEACHERS (not administrators at central office), the ones who need it! Vote no, and see how bad things will get for the kids over there, because I can promise you, there will be no cuts behind those central office doors, they will all be made on the front lines (teachers).
Sam

Copperas Cove, TX

#10 May 13, 2011
TexasGirl wrote:
If you are unhappy with the way money is spent, show up at schoolboard meetings and sign up to speak. Do not cost the students a quality education by losing good teachers to prove your point. It sounds like this is for salaries so I do not see how money can be wasted on hiring good teachers. Every district has to show how their funds are used. YOu can request the information and follow the trail of money.
But it's so much easier to rail on against generalities using fuzzy, often completely incorrect claims. It's how the Tea Party has thrived.
realbear

San Diego, CA

#11 May 13, 2011
EPISD TEACHER wrote:
Good luck CISD, hopefully you won't be screwed over by your own teachers like we were last year, and now look what is going on, teachers handed pink slips before TAKS took place, and why? Because they didn't want a minimal increase in property taxes, when the payoff would have been job security, lower insurance premiums (instead of now ridiculous premiums), more funding to help deal with the increased expectations on TAKS, oh and a healthy raise for TEACHERS (not administrators at central office), the ones who need it! Vote no, and see how bad things will get for the kids over there, because I can promise you, there will be no cuts behind those central office doors, they will all be made on the front lines (teachers).
Amen brother!
Invest

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#12 May 13, 2011
vote no wrote:
Sorry, everyone needs to vote NO on all district tax and bond increases. Districts have wasted untold billions over the years on outrageous central office salaries and other positions that don't help the kids. Test coordinators, curriculum coaches, umpteen assistant superintendents, etc. were positions that were not needed. And how many billions and billions were wasted on ridiculous curriculum programs and teaching materials that were scrapped the following year for the newest, flashiest curriculum program and teaching gadgets? I'll vote yes and encourage others to vote yes when these districts start making cuts at the top, get a handle on spending and actually produce educated students. Don't give us sob stories of educators who might be out of a job. I have no sympathy for them. They should be taking their anger out on the school administration that couldn't get their priorities straight. It's time the public get education apending under control.
I agree 100 percent with vote no, You definately have the pulse on this.
Legos

United States

#13 May 13, 2011
I challenge anyone who is ready to vote no tomorrow to go to Canutillo's website and read the materials about the election. Frankly, I have never seen a more comprehensive set of election information from a school district. Go to Socorro's website and compare - its not even close. Canutillo ISD has done a great job in getting the information out there. Check it out.

The cuts and layoffs are real - both last year's and this year's. The student growth is coming. Not passing this is like a surfer letting a great wave go by, without another one in sight. CISD needs this to pass, and so does the community.
What

United States

#14 May 13, 2011
EPISD TEACHER wrote:
Good luck CISD, hopefully you won't be screwed over by your own teachers like we were last year, and now look what is going on, teachers handed pink slips before TAKS took place, and why? Because they didn't want a minimal increase in property taxes, when the payoff would have been job security, lower insurance premiums (instead of now ridiculous premiums), more funding to help deal with the increased expectations on TAKS, oh and a healthy raise for TEACHERS (not administrators at central office), the ones who need it! Vote no, and see how bad things will get for the kids over there, because I can promise you, there will be no cuts behind those central office doors, they will all be made on the front lines (teachers).
You sound like that moron educated what!
Prediction

United States

#15 May 13, 2011
I bet all the school elections will pass tomorrow. Socorro, Canutillo, and Anthony. I think it will be a unique and weird day as far as elections go tomorrow - voters will vote for higher taxes to help the schools, even in our current "no new taxes" atmosphere. Anyone else feeling this?
hehe

Laredo, TX

#16 May 13, 2011
It is unfortunate that so many people want to vote "No".. Teachers are needed more than ever.. The higher salaries and unnecessary positions need to be reduced not only to keep teachers, but to hire more teachers.. if the tax increase is passed..
Butter Bean

United States

#17 May 13, 2011
Why do school districts have extensive Police departments? Why do we have pre K babysitting, free meals to all students, teaching coaches? These examples are just the tip of the WASTE iceberg. NO MORE TAX MONEY FOR YOU LOSERS TO SQUANDER!
Invest

El Paso, TX

#18 May 13, 2011
Lone Ranger wrote:
Why do less resourceful countries like India or Malaysia produce better (smarter) students for a lot less money than we here in the United States?
The problem with teaching is that that Parents often send to schools their ill prepared children and this means Teachers don't necessarily have something they can work with, but they make due.
Schooling should start at home with the Parents, not at the Department of Education.
I guess that is proof that learning is cheap. Poverty is motivating to some. Parents to have to take some of the blame. But society has a piece to blame too. In this land or more more more, things have become expensive. How many homes where the mother and father, or institution of marriage still exist? And if it does exist, how many homes only one parent works, so the other has the time to coach the children. This is a direct reflect of lost values and latch key children.
Get Informed

El Paso, TX

#19 May 13, 2011
The Canutillo I.S.D. has gone to great lengths to inform the public of the situation and why we are in this situation, I would venture to say that "Vote No" is either not a Canutillo resident or a very IGNORANT person!!! That person needs to get informed. It is true that the previous administration might have wasted money. However, the new administration has admitted this and is willing to make change. We NEED to give this new administration a chance to prove themselves. "No vote" is completely misinformed!!! Currently, the assistant superintendent position is currently vacant in an effort to save money. I can go on and on discrediting "Vote No's" comment but I will end on this. You are a cruel and ignorant person. Many people are loosing their jobs and homes, people that are not teachers. By voting no to the TRE adds a load to unemployment benefits by having teachers laid off. Teachers should not "take out their anger on the school administration" but rather on ignorant people like you.
Tim Holt

El Paso, TX

#20 May 13, 2011
It is interesting to read the threads and see such phrases as "wasted money for years" or "corrupt administrators." While it is true that large organizations can always tighten their budgets, the situation now is beyond that. The state of Texas is about to cut BILLIONS from public education. That is BILLIONS. Simply Google "Texas Education Spending" for a list. There are even websites that list the number of teachers that have been laid off across Texas, which is now up to 12,000+. The Feds have already cut billions and have ended programs such as Title II D, which provided for teacher training. There is very little left to tighten. It is like asking an anorexic to lose weight.

It is almost as if the general public do not think that schools districts are affected by things like rising utility costs, rising gas costs, rising health care costs. District are not immune from any of these. It is almost as if people think that schools do not get old, schools can repair themselves, that schools can spring up spontaneously to meet overcrowding needs.

I encourage the CISD community to sift through the rhetoric, and FUD. VOTE YES tomorrow.

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