'Gay' man sues Bible publishers

[ray ray]

Donivan wrote:

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Hey Ray question. Did you move back out to AZ or been there all your life?

My Family moved out here from the Midwest in 1971.

I lived in Dallas Texas on and off for ten years and in Tennessee for a while too.

But, for the most part, Ive lived here all my life!

Just curious? lol

[Donivan]

ray ray wrote:

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My Family moved out here from the Midwest in 1971.
I lived in Dallas Texas on and off for ten years and in Tennessee for a while too.
But, for the most part, Ive lived here all my life!
Just curious? lol

Yeah because there was a guy named Ray that worked for the same company that I got laid off from. He had been doing the same line of work as you for over 20 years and was talking about getting back to Arizona. He came from New Jersey though, sorry for the mix-up just curious.

One of these days, I will go visit my hometown in Nevada. I have not been there since I was 2. I wonder if its even around anymore. I may take a trip out west next year, visit my mom and see how she's doing.

[Donivan]

SamoanAfrican wrote:

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How do you advertise your business? I've always wondered how home business owners even got any business at all.
Yeah, hostess sounds easy enough. Thanks for the tips ray ray.=)

Oh SA, I find women in uniform very attractive. Some down right sexy. Sorry for the late response.

[ray ray]

Donivan wrote:

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Yeah because there was a guy named Ray that worked for the same company that I got laid off from. He had been doing the same line of work as you for over 20 years and was talking about getting back to Arizona. He came from New Jersey though, sorry for the mix-up just curious.
One of these days, I will go visit my hometown in Nevada. I have not been there since I was 2. I wonder if its even around anymore. I may take a trip out west next year, visit my mom and see how she's doing.

Gotcha! lol.....I love the West, During the winter here you can always break down to T-shirt & jeans and keep your windows open at night about 4 months out of the year. The Grand Canyon, The White Mountains, Bisbee, Tombstone, Petrefied Forest, Painted Desert, Ghost towns ect...Big Sky Country!

I wouldn't live anywhere else!!! lol

[Donivan]

ray ray wrote:

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Gotcha! lol.....I love the West, During the winter here you can always break down to T-shirt & jeans and keep your windows open at night about 4 months out of the year. The Grand Canyon, The White Mountains, Bisbee, Tombstone, Petrefied Forest, Painted Desert, Ghost towns ect...Big Sky Country!
I wouldn't live anywhere else!!! lol

I really need to get away from the East Coast. To much tension and BS here. Some of the people are great, but overall many are just to darn miserable. I tell people to lighten up, but they get offended, hence my "I don't give a F**K" attitude.

I know when I was out in Kansas visiting family, my stress level went way down and I was relaxed and very positive. One week back here undid all that.

[ray ray]

Donivan wrote:

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I really need to get away from the East Coast. To much tension and BS here. Some of the people are great, but overall many are just to darn miserable. I tell people to lighten up, but they get offended, hence my "I don't give a F**K" attitude.
I know when I was out in Kansas visiting family, my stress level went way down and I was relaxed and very positive. One week back here undid all that.

I am going to pray for you tonight , before I roll out Brother, hang in man! When were you in Kansas?

[Donivan]

ray ray wrote:

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I am going to pray for you tonight , before I roll out Brother, hang in man! When were you in Kansas?

I helped my mother move out there a year ago. I've made it this long here so really the above was wishful thinking. It would be nice. However, a strong mind and will can overcome any pain, obstacle or problem with help from God.

Thank you as I will do the same.

[ray ray]

Donivan wrote:

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I helped my mother move out there a year ago. I've made it this long here so really the above was wishful thinking. It would be nice. However, a strong mind and will can overcome any pain, obstacle or problem with help from God.
Thank you as I will do the same.

I don't usually recommend materials of any kind to people I don't know really well, but here I go!

Andrew Murry's two books , "Absolute Surrender" and "Abide in Christ"! Both have had a powerful and positive effect on my life! God used these books in my life at a point when I was like a person who got in a bad accident and was losing blood fast, but got an IV of blood, just in time!

Ever seen a person whose lost a lot of blood, there pale as a Ghost and when they have blood transfused into them, there color starts to return into their face and they begin to function normally again! That has been me spiritually at certain times in my life, it can happen to all of us. We drift off to no mans land spiritually!

Anyway, off my pulpit Bro. heres a link;

http://www.ministryhelps.com/andrew-murray-c-...

Take care Donivan! Peace!!!

[ray ray]

Oops , that's ~ Andrew *Murray*

I knew that didn't look right , got to get my spell check back! lol

[rev mark nicolle DD Dth]

216 Elite wrote:

<quoted text>Homosexuality is a sin, and no man or woman is born with this, this sin is invented by the devil, and spread around just like a virus!
Its a mentality that they get, because they've been influenced at some point by the devilish advertising, and influences of others who take part in this sinful act! This is a mentality, not a natural phenomenom from the womb, everyone is born with an organ to pro-create another life, so we are also given the natural attraction to the other gender to make due the process of reproduction, and the problem has arised over time, where the devil wants to rearrange the order of life and cause more of our people to sin, so that we can't be saved, thats his mission, and the devil has used the white culture to spread his evilness around to the world, through its power and money that it gained from spreading other forms of the devils evil, which was deceit, lies,and murder!
Anyone following in the devil's footsteps that are against god's order,will face judgement!
Black And Proud Forever

i wnat to open this statement by sating my complette agreemnt with that you that homosexuality is a sin its abomination against the creation of god so is abortion
let me ask you this i could be taking you outof context if i am correct me and i apologise if i am wrong

some things you stated make me wonder if you suffer from hatredx of all white people it appears that you have a faith in god well if you do you do have brothers and sisters in christ who are white i am one of them and absolutely should be proud to be black be proud of who you are but the same bible you quoted also says he /or she who hates his/ her brother / sister is murdurer now it doesnt sayit in that language but i am putting it in its proper context

if you do suffer such i cant say its totally unfounded as i said i am white i do hate the kkk with a passion they say thery represent all white peoples values that a flat out lie ..

i think the history of how white people have treated our fellow humanbeings that happen to be a different skin color from mine has been deplorable deplorble and discusting tand there has never been an excuse for raceisim and slavery and mistreatment of black americans by white people who say they represent american values
the way i read the declearation of independance its telling the truth from god that god created all men equal and all men are endowed by our creator with certian inalliable rights

so if you are angry with us whit foles i dont blame you i blame my own part of our human race for that and as a person who happens to be who be whit might i state that sometimes i am ashamed to be such when i remember our history so thoug i sm proud of who i am i am not at all proud of the history of racisisim in this country 100 percent of the fault for that is on the white people and as a pastor while i preach the bible i hope i am doing everything i can to promote reconsiliation between white americans and black americans also i think you are taking a part of the bible out of context where you said racially mixed marriages are scripturally banned this is not the case you are unintentionally turning the passage that says not to be unevenly wed from its proper context of saying a christian should not merry a non christian into a white person should not be merried to a black person which is not the passages proper context so you do stand corrected on that one as you look at my name look at the three leters before my name and then the 5 letters following it they stand for reverand
and doctor of divinity and doctor of theology which i recieved and the moody bible institute school of sacred divinity and theology in chicage il

[SamoanAfrican]

ray ray wrote:

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Business cards and word of mouth, but connections pay off in my business more than anything!
You can print up Flyers on your own as well!
God Bless You S.A., you will do just fine !

Thanks ray ray, God bless you too. Hopefully your business don't go out, the economy's making a lot of people lose their busniesses.

[SamoanAfrican]

Donivan wrote:

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Oh SA, I find women in uniform very attractive. Some down right sexy. Sorry for the late response.

LOL
Sorry, this random, but guys crack me up. I honestly didn't expect you to say something like that. And it's alright.=) Take care Donivan.=)

[Robert In West Hollywood]

rev mark nicolle DD Dth wrote:

<quoted text>i wnat to open this statement by sating my complette agreemnt with that you that homosexuality is a sin its abomination against the creation of god so is abortion
let me ask you this i could be taking you outof context if i am correct me and i apologise if i am wrong
some things you stated make me wonder if you suffer from hatredx of all white people it appears that you have a faith in god well if you do you do have brothers and sisters in christ who are white i am one of them and absolutely should be proud to be black be proud of who you are but the same bible you quoted also says he /or she who hates his/ her brother / sister is murdurer now it doesnt sayit in that language but i am putting it in its proper context
if you do suffer such i cant say its totally unfounded as i said i am white i do hate the kkk with a passion they say thery represent all white peoples values that a flat out lie ..
i think the history of how white people have treated our fellow humanbeings that happen to be a different skin color from mine has been deplorable deplorble and discusting tand there has never been an excuse for raceisim and slavery and mistreatment of black americans by white people who say they represent american values
the way i read the declearation of independance its telling the truth from god that god created all men equal and all men are endowed by our creator with certian inalliable rights
so if you are angry with us whit foles i dont blame you i blame my own part of our human race for that and as a person who happens to be who be whit might i state that sometimes i am ashamed to be such when i remember our history so thoug i sm proud of who i am i am not at all proud of the history of racisisim in this country 100 percent of the fault for that is on the white people and as a pastor while i preach the bible i hope i am doing everything i can to promote reconsiliation between white americans and black americans also i think you are taking a part of the bible out of context where you said racially mixed marriages are scripturally banned this is not the case you are unintentionally turning the passage that says not to be unevenly wed from its proper context of saying a christian should not merry a non christian into a white person should not be merried to a black person which is not the passages proper context so you do stand corrected on that one as you look at my name look at the three leters before my name and then the 5 letters following it they stand for reverand
and doctor of divinity and doctor of theology which i recieved and the moody bible institute school of sacred divinity and theology in chicage il

You obviously have taken what little education you got and made a complete mockery of it. You claim to be a pastor yet you are functionally illiterate. You claim to be a champion of civil rights yet you profess your undying support for discrimination and prejudice. You sir are a complete FRAUD...

[ray ray]

Robert In West Hollywood wrote:

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You obviously have taken what little education you got and made a complete mockery of it. You claim to be a pastor yet you are functionally illiterate. You claim to be a champion of civil rights yet you profess your undying support for discrimination and prejudice. You sir are a complete FRAUD...

I understood everything he had to say! You know he is a "Fraud", why and how?

[Robert In West Hollywood]

ray ray wrote:

<quoted text> I understood everything he had to say! You know he is a "Fraud", why and how?

The fact that you are unable to understand why he is a fraud is not a surprise. That you lack the intelligence to see beyond the end of your own ignorance is news to no one...

[ray ray]

Robert In West Hollywood wrote:

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The fact that you are unable to understand why he is a fraud is not a surprise. That you lack the intelligence to see beyond the end of your own ignorance is news to no one...

Thank you.:0)

[Donivan]

Robert In West Hollywood wrote:

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The fact that you are unable to understand why he is a fraud is not a surprise. That you lack the intelligence to see beyond the end of your own ignorance is news to no one...

You claim him as a fraud because he believes something you do not. You claim he's a fraud because it violates the meaning of being "Christian" You claim he's a fraud because you yourself feel that you are being targeted and not granting your civil liberties.

You want your liberties, you need to talk to your Congressman.

You want equallity stop being an a**hole to those based on your beliefs. Overall, no ones is bashing gays here, so what's your problem.

The whole Bible thing came into play when someone stated that the concept or in their words homosexuality was not in the Bible, and I layed it out plain as day where it could be found.

Yet everyone here has not called gay people "queer, or degenrate" or some of the other famous terms associated with homosexuality bigotry across this country.

You claim to be militant and honestly whatever works for you. But as someone that is a Marine you do not even come close to what it means to be militant.

Militant is disciplined in mind, heart and spirit and does not go attacking individuals with no provication. You want to attack beliefs and think it is fair than you honestly have not seen how ugly America can get. Remember the civil rights days, imagine if it was that way across this nation for all Americans that treated gay people that way. Then I would say, you have something to be totally pissed off about.

Otherwise, honestly grow the hell up. What you decide to do with your life is your business. Equal rights for all should be granted period. However the rights of others should not be trampled or violated to achieve that. If you believe that, then you are a hypocrite and a pissed off one at.

Honestly, I suggest you do some soul searching of yourself. NO NOT RELIGION, cause obviously you have a problem with that. Reflect upon yourself as who you are, why you are here and why the heck you are so darn pissed off and miserable. Because if you were not those things you would not be belittling people the way you are. Good night.