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CANTON: State House, Senate Debate Draws 100

There are 143 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Oct 23, 2008, titled CANTON: State House, Senate Debate Draws 100. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

About 100 people turned out Tuesday for a debate at Canton High School sponsored by the town's League of Women Voters.

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concerned

Gales Ferry, CT

#1 Oct 23, 2008
Now Kevin wants us to pay for his parking and books while we are paying his tuition. We are already paying overtime to another sargeant when he is on legislative leave, for which Kevin is paid. This is a true reflection of his character- bringing a job grievance against the town because he wanted us not only to pay for his law degree, but also his parking and books. Kevin is out for Kevin and cares little about the people he is supposed to represent. How much has it cost the town in overtime for the six years Kevin was "representing" us? FOI

Since: Jul 07

Canton

#2 Oct 23, 2008
I wasn't there and the article did not give Kevin's response to the question about his reimbursement request. It's possible that this is something covered by the Union contract between the PD and the Town. The overtime while he is at the Legislature is something any Town would have to cover for anyone on leave such as that. That's why many believe there shuld be a full time Legislature in Conn.. I'm not certain about whether those similarly situated as Kevin are required to give their Legislative salaries to their employer to offset the cost of paying them their salary or not. Does anyone here know that answer?
in the know

Winsted, CT

#3 Oct 23, 2008
As someone who has worked with Kevin for a number of years and is familiar with his employment contract I would suggest that "concerned" is a partisan hack who is acting out of desparation. Throughout this campaign the two candidates have been nothing but cordial and at times in complete disagreement over the issues. House has stooped to the new low of personal attacks. Kevin is guaranteed educational reimbursement according to his contract as do many employers offer. Kevin takes an UNPAID leave from teh police department when working at the Capitol. The town has saved money due to KEvin's absence. He is only replaced on overtime if the minimum staffing is breached. Let's not dilute the 19 years of faithful and dedicated service he has given this town. Remember Kevin has served the town as a legislator for six years now and only during this campaign are people (democraps) making an issue out of it.
concerned

Gales Ferry, CT

#4 Oct 23, 2008
to north forty:Kevin chose not to respond!
Canton Citizen

Bristol, CT

#5 Oct 23, 2008
I cannot speak to the legislative salary issue, but as for the educational reimbursement issue, Canton, like my employer and others that still offer educational reimbursement (which is becoming rare in these difficult economic times), reimburses reasonable and necessary educational expenses (tuition & books, not parking) that are job-related and pre-approved. I believe that Mr. Witkos received the benefit of this program for undergraduate courses, which typically are more liberaly approved than graduate courses if they lead to a bachelor's degree. Theoretically, Canton received the benefit of a more highly educated police officer. Although certain law school courses may be related to Mr. Witkos' job as a police officer, the educational reimbursement program is not intended to give the recipient the benefit of a new career. It is intended to benefit the Town with an employee better able to perform his/her job. The key components are that the course(s) be directly related to one's job and that the request(s) be pre-approved. I applaud Mr. House for bringing this issue into the open. It's been a source of local gossip for months; it reveals Mr. Witkos' self-serving distortion of the educational reimbursement program and a lack of regard for a Town budget already stretched to the limit. If he truly believes in his interpretation of the educational reimbursement program, I question his ability to draft and interpret proposed legislation.
Just Wondering

Avon, CT

#6 Oct 23, 2008
My understanding is Kevin tried to get the town to pay for the law school and it was denied as not being job related. Kevin grieved this decision and the grievance was denied. Not only did the town not see it as job related, the grievance board didn't either.
Kevin did not give an answer to House's comment. He took the mic, hestitated and then declined to comment. What could he say? That he didn't try to get the town to pay for his law school?
It is important to note that the town did pay for his undergrad. That was job related, a law degree is not needed to be a cop.
The town fulfilled it's obligation under the contract. Kevin wanted more than the town was willing to cover. Maybe it's a matter of interpretation, but the town has been supported in the decision.

So "in the know" did Kevin ask for law school payment? Was it grieved? Was it denied? I may be a "democrap" (you witty devil), but I can separate fact from emotion.
If my statements aren't true, you give the real story.
A New Tide

United States

#7 Oct 23, 2008
Having attended the LWV forum, I was a little surprised to hear this accusation from House because it has never been referenced previously.

At first I was skeptical because it seemed vague, but then House actually quoted the Chief of Police, something about 'in my 12 years I've never seen anyone reimbursed for law school courses.'

I believe I also heard follow-up commentary on Witkos further grieving for Canton's refusal to pay for parking tickets....are you kidding me?! How can he legitimately argue that the taxpayers are supposed to pay for his own stupidity (or laziness).

Personally, I think House is on to something and he used this as a chance to once against draw a distinction between himself and Witkos. To be honest, it makes me wonder what else Witkos has done for personal benefit.
Just Wondering

Avon, CT

#8 Oct 23, 2008
A New Tide wrote:
Having attended the LWV forum, I was a little surprised to hear this accusation from House because it has never been referenced previously.
At first I was skeptical because it seemed vague, but then House actually quoted the Chief of Police, something about 'in my 12 years I've never seen anyone reimbursed for law school courses.'
I believe I also heard follow-up commentary on Witkos further grieving for Canton's refusal to pay for parking tickets....are you kidding me?! How can he legitimately argue that the taxpayers are supposed to pay for his own stupidity (or laziness).
Personally, I think House is on to something and he used this as a chance to once against draw a distinction between himself and Witkos. To be honest, it makes me wonder what else Witkos has done for personal benefit.
Don't be silly. It wasn't parking tickets, it was charges for parking.
Also, although Kevin may have been over zealous in trying to get too many things paid for by the town, there is no indication that there has been anything illegal.
Your statements just inflame people and take away from reasonable discussion.
concerned

Gales Ferry, CT

#10 Oct 23, 2008
This is more than being overzealous. This is an indicator of Kevin's true character and raises the question of ethics for a person who supposedly represents our interests and not merely his own. With all his time off, does he deserve to be a sargeant and should he receive pay increases during his six years of excessive absence? Someone has to cover the shift or we lose a third of our protection.
Witkos was silent

Avon, CT

#11 Oct 23, 2008
in the know wrote:
As someone who has worked with Kevin for a number of years and is familiar with his employment contract I would suggest that "concerned" is a partisan hack who is acting out of desparation. Throughout this campaign the two candidates have been nothing but cordial and at times in complete disagreement over the issues. House has stooped to the new low of personal attacks. Kevin is guaranteed educational reimbursement according to his contract as do many employers offer. Kevin takes an UNPAID leave from teh police department when working at the Capitol. The town has saved money due to KEvin's absence. He is only replaced on overtime if the minimum staffing is breached. Let's not dilute the 19 years of faithful and dedicated service he has given this town. Remember Kevin has served the town as a legislator for six years now and only during this campaign are people (democraps) making an issue out of it.
Not sure what you know "in the know", but...It was rather telling at the debate when the normally talkative Kevin didn't answer, didn't respond and just sat there when questioned about his request for town tax payers to foot the bill for his law school education. I know he reads these blogs, why doesn't he tell the public why he sought the reimbursement and then when denied by Chief Humprhey he sought the CAO approval, when denied by the CAO he filed a grievance, and was denied again. Three denials, and yet Witkos has nothing to say on the matter. It makes one wonder.
ah ha

Avon, CT

#12 Oct 23, 2008
Kevin stated he is opposed to abortion, stem cell research and gay marriage during the debate. I was very surprised to hear him say that. What about a woman's right to choice? Guess Kevin thinks he knows better and wants to tell women what to do with their body. The Courant should have provided a more comprehensive article in the paper.
Rolling my eyes again

Avon, CT

#13 Oct 23, 2008
in the know wrote:
As someone who has worked with Kevin for a number of years and is familiar with his employment contract I would suggest that "concerned" is a partisan hack who is acting out of desparation. Throughout this campaign the two candidates have been nothing but cordial and at times in complete disagreement over the issues. House has stooped to the new low of personal attacks. Kevin is guaranteed educational reimbursement according to his contract as do many employers offer. Kevin takes an UNPAID leave from teh police department when working at the Capitol. The town has saved money due to KEvin's absence. He is only replaced on overtime if the minimum staffing is breached. Let's not dilute the 19 years of faithful and dedicated service he has given this town. Remember Kevin has served the town as a legislator for six years now and only during this campaign are people (democraps) making an issue out of it.
How is this a "personal" attack? Did Kevin not ask for the law school tution? This seems to be factual. If not, Kevin should come out and deny it.
Also, how do you figure the town saves money? I assume that if he is on Legislative business he would obviously be off the town clock. However, does he take a salary cut due to less hours worked or just work a schedule outside of legislative hours?

How often is the minimal coverage agreement is breached and overtime by another officer needed? Can you tell me how much this costs the town?
Two Cents worth

Avon, CT

#14 Oct 23, 2008
ah ha wrote:
Kevin stated he is opposed to abortion, stem cell research and gay marriage during the debate. I was very surprised to hear him say that. What about a woman's right to choice? Guess Kevin thinks he knows better and wants to tell women what to do with their body. The Courant should have provided a more comprehensive article in the paper.
Sounds like a Bushie. Maybe he could be First Dude!
lol

Durham, CT

#15 Oct 23, 2008
MY,MY, Clearly you are angry,and have an axe to grind with Kevin.It is also apparent to me that you do not know Kevin.I would gather that you are probably a disgruntled speeder or perhaps he busted you driving for DWI.
Your raving comments is more indicitive of the ladder.Maybe you are Art House himself.I read Art House's mail flyer today.Desperate.I have had the opportunity to work with Kevin for many years.He is a devoted father and husband.He is a hard worker
and a great listener.And I am confident that people who know him,and know how hard he works for them will vote for him.
OTE who This is more than being overzealous. This is an indicator of Kevin's true character and raises the question of ethics for a person who supposedly represents our interests and not merely his own. With all his time off, does he deserve to be a sargeant and should he receive pay increases during his six years of excessive absence? Someone has to cover the shift or we lose a third of our protection
Avonite

Durham, CT

#16 Oct 23, 2008
I agree with you LOL.In the years that I have known Kevin he has been a
person of sound judgement.He has listened and had our communities best interest at heart.Not his own.Saying that Kevin is a nice polititian is almost an oxymoron in this day of dirty politics.But he is very nice.I read Arthur House's flyer as well.It was a bash Kevin flyer.Their was no substance about Arthur.This is why he lost against Nancy Johnston years ago.
lol wrote:
MY,MY, Clearly you are angry,and have an axe to grind with Kevin.It is also apparent to me that you do not know Kevin.I would gather that you are probably a disgruntled speeder or perhaps he busted you driving for DWI.
Your raving comments is more indicitive of the ladder.Maybe you are Art House himself.I read Art House's mail flyer today.Desperate.I have had the opportunity to work with Kevin for many years.He is a devoted father and husband.He is a hard worker
and a great listener.And I am confident that people who know him,and know how hard he works for them will vote for him.
OTE who This is more than being overzealous. This is an indicator of Kevin's true character and raises the question of ethics for a person who supposedly represents our interests and not merely his own. With all his time off, does he deserve to be a sargeant and should he receive pay increases during his six years of excessive absence? Someone has to cover the shift or we lose a third of our protection
lol

Durham, CT

#17 Oct 23, 2008
In my post I was responding to concerned.It linked them together, unfortunatly

Since: Jul 07

Canton

#18 Oct 23, 2008
Anyone who knows Kevin clearly knows that he's honest and has a good work ethic. I think that the article left a lot to be desired in terms of detailed content about the debate. I wish that I had been able to attend the debate, because I'm pretty sure there were more issues discussed than the Courant has provided it's readers with. And thanks for providing the answers regarding when Kevin is at the Legislature and not on duty. I didn't know how it worked with regards to his PD pay vs. Legislative salary. I'd imagine Kevin might actually take a financial loss in the long run, with missed overtime opportunities and the like. Just a guess.
concerned

Gales Ferry, CT

#19 Oct 23, 2008
To lol:Never had a ticket-unlike you.
lol

Durham, CT

#20 Oct 23, 2008
That was a good one.So imaginitave. Almost as good as your ridiculous posts.Seriously..get a life.

QUOTE who="concerned"]To lol:Never had a ticket-unlike you.QUOTE
lol

Durham, CT

#21 Oct 23, 2008
KEVIN IS OUT FOR KEVIN???Let's talk about Art being out for Art.I find it ironic that Art,who is an executive with Webster Bank has contributed THOUSANDS of dollars to Senator Chris Dodd who is the Chairman of the US Senate committee on banking.This has been going on for years and is all public record.Let's talk about this in a public forum.
concerned wrote:
Now Kevin wants us to pay for his parking and books while we are paying his tuition. We are already paying overtime to another sargeant when he is on legislative leave, for which Kevin is paid. This is a true reflection of his character- bringing a job grievance against the town because he wanted us not only to pay for his law degree, but also his parking and books. Kevin is out for Kevin and cares little about the people he is supposed to represent. How much has it cost the town in overtime for the six years Kevin was "representing" us? FOI

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