Amy Bishop charged in brother's 1986 ...

Amy Bishop charged in brother's 1986 shooting death

There are 54 comments on the Lowell Sun story from Jun 16, 2010, titled Amy Bishop charged in brother's 1986 shooting death. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

A biology professor charged with killing three of her colleagues at an Alabama university has been indicted in the 1986 shooting death of her brother in Massachusetts.

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“Watch out for my shivs”

Since: Feb 09

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#21 Jun 18, 2010
Amused wrote:
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It has nothing to do with the pursuit of justice. Everyone in MA knows full well that there is very little chance of her ever seeing a jury in Massachusetts. This is strictly face-saving and poltical posturing, with a heavy dose of "blame the old guy" thrown in for good measure.
If anything, no doubt at some point in the future, when she is running out of appeals in Alabama, she will suddenly decide that she wants to stand trial in Massachusetts. Once she's here, she'll waive every speedy trial right from here to Baghdad, file every dilatory motion her court-appointed lawyers can think of, take every interlocutory appeal possible, and push her date with the needle well into the next half-century.
On the news tonight there was a mention of a suicide attempt.
Didn't get details yet.

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#22 Jun 18, 2010
ok, here's a link to the attempted suicide story. They didn't say how she tried.

http://wbztv.com/national/amy.bishop.alabama....
Bagdad Harry

United States

#23 Jun 18, 2010
CatmomDu wrote:
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On the news tonight there was a mention of a suicide attempt.
Didn't get details yet.
Why don't they give prisoners a chance to do themselves in?
Would save a bunch of money in the long run...and short run....

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#24 Jun 18, 2010
Bagdad Harry wrote:
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Why don't they give prisoners a chance to do themselves in?
Would save a bunch of money in the long run...and short run....
Works for me.
Reinstate death penalty too.
where would they be

Andover, MA

#25 Jun 18, 2010
Why wouldn't they be alive?
Frank wrote:
Talk about a waste of taxpayer money. Are any of the witnesses even alive????
Not to mention she is likely going to be put away for the office shooting.
Patriot

South Weymouth, MA

#26 Jun 23, 2010
Amused wrote:
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Here's the actual text of GL c.269, section 12e that you refer to:
Chapter 269: Section 12E. Discharge of a firearm within 500 feet of a dwelling or other building in use; exceptions
Section 12E. Whoever discharges a firearm as defined in section one hundred and twenty-one of chapter one hundred and forty, a rifle or shotgun within five hundred feet of a dwelling or other building in use, except with the consent of the owner or legal occupant thereof, shall be punished by a fine of not less than fifty nor more than one hundred dollars or by imprisonment in a jail or house of correction for not more than three months, or both. The provisions of this section shall not apply to (a) the lawful defense of life and property; (b) any law enforcement officer acting in the discharge of his duties; (c) persons using underground or indoor target or test ranges with the consent of the owner or legal occupant thereof; (d) persons using outdoor skeet, trap, target or test ranges with the consent of the owner or legal occupant of the land on which the range is established; (e) persons using shooting galleries, licensed and defined under the provisions of section fifty-six A of chapter one hundred and forty; and (f) the discharge of blank cartridges for theatrical, athletic, ceremonial, firing squad, or other purposes in accordance with section thirty-nine of chapter one hundred and forty-eight.
I don't see anything in there prohibiting the carrying of firearms, rifles or shotguns, only discharging a shot without permission of the owner and not being within one of the exceptions listed.
Perhaps you mean this statute:
Chapter 131: Section 58. Shooting upon or across highway; hunting near dwelling
Section 58. A person shall not discharge any firearm or release any arrow upon or across any state or hard surfaced highway, or within one hundred and fifty feet, of any such highway, or possess a loaded firearm or hunt by any means on the land of another within five hundred feet of any dwelling in use, except as authorized by the owner or occupant thereof.
This too does not say what you claim it does. You can't shoot a gun within 150 feet of a road, nor can you carry a loaded weapon or otherwise hunt on land of another within 500 feet of a building in use, unless you have permission.
Nothing in either statute would prohibit carrying a rifle in a sling on your shoulder in public on a public way or sidewalk. If you enter onto private property and within 500 feet of a building in use, you would have to have the weapon unloaded, but the statute would not prohibit carrying an unloaded weapon.
If you have another statute which you believe supports your position, please post a citation to the actual statute.
Hello.... She fired the shotgun twice inside her house. Then carried it loaded to the car dealer.
Patriot

South Weymouth, MA

#27 Jun 23, 2010
Bagdad Harry wrote:
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Why don't they give prisoners a chance to do themselves in?
Would save a bunch of money in the long run...and short run....
Better yet. Televise the execution on PPV and give the profits to the victims families.
Amused

Newton Center, MA

#28 Jun 25, 2010
Patriot wrote:
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Hello.... She fired the shotgun twice inside her house. Then carried it loaded to the car dealer.
Assuming that her parents, who owned the house where the shots were fired, would say they consented to the shots being fired, where's the crime (apart from the murder and the alleged assault on the cab driver, of course.)? Even if yu assume the shot gun is still loaded after at least two rounds were fired, which is a big assumption, you still haven't provided the citation to any statute that would prohibit the possessor of a valid FID card from openly carrying the weapon on a public way.
Patriot

South Weymouth, MA

#29 Jun 25, 2010
Keating said that he reviewed police reports and other documents in a case file recovered Monday from a retired Braintree police captain and concluded that prosecutors had probable cause to charge Bishop with assault with a dangerous weapon, carrying a dangerous weapon, and unlawful possession of ammunition, all in her attempt after the shooting to obtain a getaway car at gunpoint from a local auto body shop.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusett...

Read and learn. The DA says she could have been prosecuted.

"Permission to fire a shotgun in the house?" are you retarded? Why do I get the feeling you might be a Braintree cop? LMAO. Why don't you go to the mall this after noon and walk around the parking lot with a shotgun and see how you make out?

OK I'm done. I don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and waste your time.

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#30 Jun 25, 2010
Patriot wrote:
Keating said that he reviewed police reports and other documents in a case file recovered Monday from a retired Braintree police captain and concluded that prosecutors had probable cause to charge Bishop with assault with a dangerous weapon, carrying a dangerous weapon, and unlawful possession of ammunition, all in her attempt after the shooting to obtain a getaway car at gunpoint from a local auto body shop.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusett...
Read and learn. The DA says she could have been prosecuted.
"Permission to fire a shotgun in the house?" are you retarded? Why do I get the feeling you might be a Braintree cop? LMAO. Why don't you go to the mall this after noon and walk around the parking lot with a shotgun and see how you make out?
OK I'm done. I don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and waste your time.
Well thanks for the link.
Only an idiot would call "Amused" an idiot.
He wasn't taking a position, merely pointing out the law in a polite manner.
Try it sometime and maybe you won't see Topix to be as big a cesspool.
Amused

United States

#31 Jun 26, 2010
CatmomDu wrote:
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Well thanks for the link.
Only an idiot would call "Amused" an idiot.
He wasn't taking a position, merely pointing out the law in a polite manner.
Try it sometime and maybe you won't see Topix to be as big a cesspool.
He needs to save face. He made an assertion about what the law was. I pointed out that the statutes don't say what he claimed they do, and invited him to cite any other statute I might have missed. Apparently, there are none, which he can't accept gracefully, so he creates a smokescreen to cover his departure. Gun lovers are usually compensating for a certain, um, deficiency south of the belt buckle. So pointing out a flaw in their knowledge about anything related to guns can be a challenge to their masculinity. Hence the emotional reaction.
Mike

United States

#32 Jun 26, 2010
Little late don't you think? Now your just wasting time and money

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Since: Feb 09

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#33 Jun 26, 2010
Amused wrote:
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He needs to save face. He made an assertion about what the law was. I pointed out that the statutes don't say what he claimed they do, and invited him to cite any other statute I might have missed. Apparently, there are none, which he can't accept gracefully, so he creates a smokescreen to cover his departure. Gun lovers are usually compensating for a certain, um, deficiency south of the belt buckle. So pointing out a flaw in their knowledge about anything related to guns can be a challenge to their masculinity. Hence the emotional reaction.
Sometime we have to change your handle to "Amusing"!
LOL
Dracut Retiree

Tewksbury, MA

#34 Jun 27, 2010
Bagdad Harry wrote:
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Why don't they give prisoners a chance to do themselves in?
Would save a bunch of money in the long run...and short run....
Don't you think it would be bad for morale? Imagine waking up in the morning and seeing your cellmate hanging there with bulging eyes looking at you with that WTF stare, that would be a terrible way to start the day....
Dracut Retiree

Tewksbury, MA

#35 Jun 27, 2010
Dracut Retiree wrote:
<quoted text>Don't you think it would be bad for morale? Imagine waking up in the morning and seeing your cellmate hanging there with bulging eyes looking at you with that **** stare, that would be a terrible way to start the day....
I forgot to add; Especially if he had your jammies on!

And that was a w-t-f stare......

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Since: Feb 09

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#36 Jun 27, 2010
Dracut Retiree wrote:
<quoted text>I forgot to add; Especially if he had your jammies on!
And that was a w-t-f stare......
Silly DR. Hope your day is going well. I gots grandkids here, but will check in from time to time.
Dracut Retiree

Tewksbury, MA

#37 Jun 27, 2010
CatmomDu wrote:
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Silly DR. Hope your day is going well. I gots grandkids here, but will check in from time to time.
Yes, it was a nice day, took a ride to seashore and then we went to the Phoenician in Haverhill for an Arabic platter on the way home. I am still on the overstuffed side.

Hope you had a good fay with the grandchildren, they do keep us moving.

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Since: Feb 09

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#38 Jun 27, 2010
Dracut Retiree wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, it was a nice day, took a ride to seashore and then we went to the Phoenician in Haverhill for an Arabic platter on the way home. I am still on the overstuffed side.
Hope you had a good fay with the grandchildren, they do keep us moving.
I bet you got a nice tan! Does the Arabic plate feature Shish-Kabog?
Well we did the pool with the kids... Princess kept bragging about going in the deep end.
Speaking of moving, CatDad is dead.. and we're keeping the kids a few days. They're watching the Fourth Indiana Jones.
Patriot

South Weymouth, MA

#39 Jun 27, 2010
Amused wrote:
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He needs to save face. He made an assertion about what the law was. I pointed out that the statutes don't say what he claimed they do, and invited him to cite any other statute I might have missed. Apparently, there are none, which he can't accept gracefully, so he creates a smokescreen to cover his departure. Gun lovers are usually compensating for a certain, um, deficiency south of the belt buckle. So pointing out a flaw in their knowledge about anything related to guns can be a challenge to their masculinity. Hence the emotional reaction.
No sir. I made NO "assertion as to what the gun laws were." I pointed out that the gun laws in general work for the criminals and against law abiding gun owners, and that new legislation is being inflicted upon us which do nothing to prevent gun crime. YOU took it upon yourself to attempt to single out SPECIFIC laws to suit your need to make an argument for what ever reason. How does a person of anonymity "save face"? You say that like you know who I am or that I might care at all what you think about me.

Patriot wrote:
"How's that assachusetts gun control working out?
New legislation is on the table so law abiding gun owners will only be able to purchase ONE gun a month. Yet the criminals don't seem to care about gun laws, do they?"

Apparently, all of Amy Bishop's victims were killed with legally obtained weapons. The shotgun belonged to her brother. The gun used in the Alabama shootings was apparently legally obtained in NH and legally possessed in Alabama. So the Massachusetts gun laws, which do not control transactions in NH or possession of guns in Alabama are essentially irrelevant. Your comment about my masculinity compounds your presumptuous ignorance. What makes you so sure I'm not a woman?

I wouldn't say that I'm a "gun lover" as much as I am someone who cherishes what's guaranteed by the bill of rights. Even YOUR right to say what you want, no matter how incorrect or contrived. And here you are, PROVING my point for me, that people are so willing to defend and make up ridiculous scenarios, like "Her parents gave her permission to shoot a gun in the house" to protect her, the criminal. ONLY an IDIOT would spew out something like that. Yet you're so willing to condemn and ridicule law abiding gun owners. Thank you. You proved my point which I made in my first post, to which you derailed and took issue with. Why? Maybe because you're too incompetent or irresponsible to own a gun so you profess that nobody else should own one?

And now you are talking in circles. Yes, you are amusing. You should be more concerned about what's between your ears than between your legs.
Dracut Retiree

Tewksbury, MA

#40 Jun 27, 2010
CatmomDu wrote:
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I bet you got a nice tan! Does the Arabic plate feature Shish-Kabog?
Well we did the pool with the kids... Princess kept bragging about going in the deep end.
Speaking of moving, CatDad is dead.. and we're keeping the kids a few days. They're watching the Fourth Indiana Jones.
No, it comes with Kibbe, stuffed grape leaves and cabbage rolls, stuffed pepper, rice, green beans and a tomato sauce.(Stuffing is ground lamb & rice).

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