GBI Continues Lavonia Pastor Death Probe

[Richard_]

The Sage wrote:

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Could you qualify your use of the word "jurisdiction?" Jurisdiction over WHAT?? That's kind of an important detail!! I mean, the ATF has jurisdiction over federal Alcohol, Tobacco, or Gun laws. But they DON'T have jurisdiction over domestic violence laws! Nor do they have jurisdiction over state drugs laws. Hell they can't even arrest someone for DUI!

Exactly, federal cops don't possess the AUTHORITY to arrest people for violating a state's laws, even a complete and utter moron knows that. However, a federal cop, who is also a citizen of the US and state where the federal cop resides, is able to conduct a citizen arrest for a felony committed in his or her presense. In addtion, many if not most states have a hot line for reporting drunk drivers. Therefore, an ATF agent, is well within his rights as a citizen to observe and report such activity to the authorized law enforcement AUTHORIties.

[Richard_]

DUB wrote:

<quoted text> Here you go, Ohio supreme court, dealing precisely with officer jurisdiction. If you need more, I'll find them for you but I thought making you look a little dumb was better than exposing you for the fraud you are.

your but crack stank said "what?"?

[DUB]

Richard_ wrote:

<quoted text>your but crack stank said "what?"?

Exactly, you are again proven wrong and resort to this silliness. Come back when you can make an intelligent argument.

[DUB]

Richard_ wrote:

<quoted text>Exactly, federal cops don't possess the AUTHORITY to arrest people for violating a state's laws, even a complete and utter moron knows that. However, a federal cop, who is also a citizen of the US and state where the federal cop resides, is able to conduct a citizen arrest for a felony committed in his or her presense. In addtion, many if not most states have a hot line for reporting drunk drivers. Therefore, an ATF agent, is well within his rights as a citizen to observe and report such activity to the authorized law enforcement AUTHORIties.

Again your double talk comes through. You are proven wrong and make a statement that contradicts itself.

[Richard_]

DUB wrote:

<quoted text> Here you go, Ohio supreme court, dealing precisely with officer jurisdiction. If you need more, I'll find them for you but I thought making you look a little dumb was better than exposing you for the fraud you are.

No, here you go, smoke some more crack cocaine.

[DUB]

Richard_ wrote:

<quoted text>No, here you go, smoke some more crack cocaine.

It's official Richard has become pathetic. He reminds me of a three year old who ask a question and when the answer is something he doesn't like he screams and pounds the floor.
Did you want an answer or not? Or were you just hoping that we were all as clueless as you?

[DUB]

http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/PIO/summaries/2...
Read it... If this doesn't answer your question what will.

[The Sage]

Richard_ wrote:

<quoted text>You're being disingenuous, the UCR is a 1929 method of coding police reports of criminal activity, I'll bet that you're still contemplating the VHS v. Beta conundrum.

Wow, you know how to use Google! Good for you!! Guess what! It is STILL used to this day!! You know, our Constitution is even older, but I don't see you dismissing that!!

[The Sage]

Richard_ wrote:

<quoted text>Exactly, federal cops don't possess the AUTHORITY to arrest people for violating a state's laws, even a complete and utter moron knows that. However, a federal cop, who is also a citizen of the US and state where the federal cop resides, is able to conduct a citizen arrest for a felony committed in his or her presense. In addtion, many if not most states have a hot line for reporting drunk drivers. Therefore, an ATF agent, is well within his rights as a citizen to observe and report such activity to the authorized law enforcement AUTHORIties.

Thank you Captian Obvious for repeating exactly what I said.

[Richard_]

The Sage wrote:

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Wow, you know how to use Google! Good for you!! Guess what! It is STILL used to this day!! You know, our Constitution is even older, but I don't see you dismissing that!!

That's simple, when I joined the military I swore a lifetime oath to support and defend the US Constitution. I never swore an oaht to support and defend the UCR reporting form.

[Richard_]

The Sage wrote:

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Thank you Captian Obvious for repeating exactly what I said.

Actually, I am a Captain and you can learn to correctly spell captain by attending a local public school staffed by Democrats and liberals.

[Richard_]

DUB wrote:

http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/ PIO/summaries/2009/0204/072310 _072311.asp
Read it... If this doesn't answer your question what will.

Yeah, you've yet to come up with a state statute that defines "jurisdiction" as the possession of police officers.

A police officer doesn't have jurisdiction, a jurisdiction has police officers.

Regardless, a retart like yourself will say semantics this and that, but the truth of the matter is that police do not possess jurisdiction.

Simply show me the state statute that defines a police officer's possession of the jurisdiction. In our state, all police derive their arrest power authorization from the state legislature. Therefore, if a Green Bay cop is investigating a crime in Brown County or winds up on police chase that crosses county lines all the way up to Marinette and across the bridge into Menominee Michigan in hot pursuit, that Green Bay cop can still make the arrest, even if at that point in time it's a citizen arrest.

Which, by the way, brings up a perfect question about authority and the concept of individuals or government agents possessing "jurisdiction". If a Florida resident is in Michigan and witnesses a felony committed in their presence, can the Florida resident use their jurisdiction of citizen arrest powers to make a citizen arrest?

[The Sage]

Richard_ wrote:

<quoted text>Actually, I am a Captain and you can learn to correctly spell captain by attending a local public school staffed by Democrats and liberals.

Being Captain of your little backyard militia group worried about black helicopters doesn't count

[The Sage]

Richard, you really are a nut job. And your misunderstanding of words makes it very difficult to understand what the hell you're complaining about! What is your beef with the word "jurisdiction?" What is it, in plain English, not your right wing conspiracy theory double speak, that you want to know?

[The Sage]

Richard vague, ambiguous, and misuse of the word "jurisdiction" has allowed him to continually argue stupid points for the last week.

It's like Richard is arguing over where cops get their uniforms from. I say they get them from their "Police Supply." That's where the cop goes to get his uniforms when they need new ones. But Richard, trying to sound smarter than he is, comes in says, "No, they get them from the tax payers who provide the money for them." Then someone will say, "The tax payers provide them, but the cops get them from Police Supply." Then Richard, trying to sound smarter than he is again says, "No, the uniforms come from a regional distributor! That's where the cops are getting them from!" Then someone will say, "But the department gets them from there, the cops get them from Police Supply!" But then Richard will try to sound like he knows what he is talking about, and says, "The uniforms come from textile mills!"

See, no matter what you say, because Richard isn't smart enough to use words correctly and ask accurate questions, he can play this stupid game forever.

[Belshaazar]

The Sage wrote:

Richard vague, ambiguous, and misuse of the word "jurisdiction" has allowed him to continually argue stupid points for the last week.
It's like Richard is arguing over where cops get their uniforms from. I say they get them from their "Police Supply." That's where the cop goes to get his uniforms when they need new ones. But Richard, trying to sound smarter than he is, comes in says, "No, they get them from the tax payers who provide the money for them." Then someone will say, "The tax payers provide them, but the cops get them from Police Supply." Then Richard, trying to sound smarter than he is again says, "No, the uniforms come from a regional distributor! That's where the cops are getting them from!" Then someone will say, "But the department gets them from there, the cops get them from Police Supply!" But then Richard will try to sound like he knows what he is talking about, and says, "The uniforms come from textile mills!"
See, no matter what you say, because Richard isn't smart enough to use words correctly and ask accurate questions, he can play this stupid game forever.

You seem like a bi-polar whiny sort, with a rolodex of complaints and nags.

[Mad Max]

Belshaazar wrote:

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You seem like a bi-polar whiny sort, with a rolodex of complaints and nags.

He makes more sense than anyone on this thread. He knows what he's talking about!

[dld09]

Ecce_Homo wrote:

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Asinus asinum fricat.

There are a lot of asses here aren't there. Good one.