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Since: Dec 11

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#12766 Jun 12, 2012
Calulator wrote:
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Simple solution. If you moved your children to his county, they would be twice as smart.
One more thing, you must be from my county if your moniker is suppose to be "Calculator".

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#12767 Jun 12, 2012
Robert Stowe wrote:
<quoted text>Christians are sinners,too. That's why we're Christians.
I think there is more to it than just this. I think half of the Christians do not even try to be like Jesus.
Thus they are not really following any particular philosophy.
One must at least chose a philosophy and actively try to follow it.
Problem is, I think many of the Christians have doubts as to the truth of the story but still cling to the idea on a certain level
Thus they do not actively follow the philosophy but are just a casual believer.
This is as dangerous as some of the extreme fundamentalists.

I think schools need to be teaching more philosophy.

I think schools should teach more philosophy so anyone, even Christians can have some logical, real philosophies to follow.

One can be a Christian and still follow secular philosophy. Problem is, many if not most churches are not teaching philosophy other than the dogmatic ideas of heaven and hell, fire and brimstone.

That may sometime work, but we all know so many fail to be teteared

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#12768 Jun 12, 2012
TSF wrote:
Those who perceive a conflict between science and religion with regards to evolution seem to have limited understanding of both religion and science.
Most religious persons acknowledge that God is all powerful and all knowing. So if God created modern species through the PROCESS of evolution, why would religious persons object to HOW God did it? Those who declare that present species developed as a result of probabilistic accident are equally misguided because of their limited understanding of probability.
You are saying most scientists do not understand probabilities?

This is part of why our children are not into science. Even those who are not so religious discount those scientists who see no reason to have a god creator in the process of evolution.
The Truth

Knoxville, TN

#12769 Jun 12, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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One more thing, you must be from my county if your moniker is suppose to be "Calculator".
No, MB, he had it right. He was telling you he was going to "Cal u lator". He must have a crush on you or something.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#12770 Jun 12, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Just found an article that states in N.C. the 97% of teachers without unions that only 0.37% of tenured teachers are terminated. Statistically, our state should be ranked #1 instead of 27th educationally, because all these teachers must be outstanding. With these statistics, I was right in my original post in stating, once a teacher is tenured they then become a permanent fixture at whatever school they're teaching.
You are putting all effects on one cause.
I think you do not factor in that any teacher that has been around long enough to be tenured is likely a good teacher and does not do stupid things to be fired for.
This is true in any profession. This is why companies like to see employees that hold jobs for several years. It proves they are good.

Do you ever factor in the parents of these kids? If they do not set good examples, the children are statistically more likely to fail.'That is just human nature. Sure, some defy the statistics, but that does not offset the statistic.

And as I point out, if the parents are telling the kids the teachers are all wrong about things such as science, why would a kid listen to a teacher?

If a kid grows up in a home that is not of literate parents, statistics show they will likely do poorly in school.
These are generational things. It takes a few generations to get up to par. And that is only if all things are on the correct track.

Teachers can only do so much with a child with a sour attitude.
I think private school children do well because any parent so concerned with education that they pay extra for schooling, is likely passing on a good attitude towards school to the child.
And I would suppose if you are paying extra for these teachers, you will not tell the kid they are all wrong about science.

Unfortunately many of the private schools tell the kids evolution is not true. That is a tragedy.

I cannot imagine a religious school turning out to many biology scientists.
Buncombe Native

Asheville, NC

#12771 Jun 12, 2012
Common Sense wrote:
Go Elaine!
Vote out ALL incumbents!!!!!!!!!!

Since: Dec 11

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#12772 Jun 12, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You are putting all effects on one cause.
I think you do not factor in that any teacher that has been around long enough to be tenured is likely a good teacher and does not do stupid things to be fired for.
This is true in any profession. This is why companies like to see employees that hold jobs for several years. It proves they are good.
Do you ever factor in the parents of these kids? If they do not set good examples, the children are statistically more likely to fail.'That is just human nature. Sure, some defy the statistics, but that does not offset the statistic.
And as I point out, if the parents are telling the kids the teachers are all wrong about things such as science, why would a kid listen to a teacher?
If a kid grows up in a home that is not of literate parents, statistics show they will likely do poorly in school.
These are generational things. It takes a few generations to get up to par. And that is only if all things are on the correct track.
Teachers can only do so much with a child with a sour attitude.
I think private school children do well because any parent so concerned with education that they pay extra for schooling, is likely passing on a good attitude towards school to the child.
And I would suppose if you are paying extra for these teachers, you will not tell the kid they are all wrong about science.
Unfortunately many of the private schools tell the kids evolution is not true. That is a tragedy.
I cannot imagine a religious school turning out to many biology scientists.
Mike, as a parent that sent my child to private school and did without some of the "extras" to do so. My parents raised me in a Christian home, and I loved the sciences. I think my degree in microbiology is proof. My husband and I have raised my daughter in a Christian home and she jumped right into the field of medicine. We have never had a conflict of science with our religion. Mike, I don't know if you've been to college or if you have what courses you took, but evolution versus creationism was never debated that much. Chemistry has more to do with math, especially if you get into quantitative chemistry. Identifying bacteria under a microscope, or learning about the anatomy and physiology of the body, DNA, peptides, polypeptides, amino acids etc has nothing to do with how we got here, but more to do with what we are now. It's kind of like which came first the chicken or the egg; it doesn't matter which came first if you're craving KFC or an Egg McMuffin. I know it concerns you how we got here, but in the fields of microbiology trying to identify bacteria causing diseases or in the field of medicine trying to identify if one needs surgery versus using medication to treat an illness doesn't have anything to do with evolution and that seems to be a sticking point for you. These sciences are used in the here and now and no matter if you believe in evolution and I believe in creationism, we can't rewrite history, so arguing about it is a moot point.

Mike, you are correct about children being raised in homes by parents that are illiterate, puts the children at a great disadvantage and it will take a generation or two to break the cycle. Did your parents tell you not to believe things taught in school? I've never heard of that too much. My parents taught me to respect our teachers, not question authority and do our work.
TSF

Fayetteville, NC

#12773 Jun 12, 2012
Republican speaker of the NC house, Tom Tillis is being slammed in the news for wasting $21,000 dollars on body guards because none of the other state legislators are spending state money on body guards. Well duh!! If you had been giving bonuses to married staff members who were having sexual affairs with lobbyist, you might be afraid also. A jealous spouse can be quite dangerous.

Since: Dec 11

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#12774 Jun 12, 2012
The Truth wrote:
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No, MB, he had it right. He was telling you he was going to "Cal u lator". He must have a crush on you or something.
Truth, I needed that laugh today. Thanks!!
waco1954

United States

#12775 Jun 12, 2012
Tell me something true today Truth.You haven't lost your edge have you?

Since: Dec 11

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#12776 Jun 12, 2012
Ok people, I think I've stumbled on a new invention. Before I take my invention to the Shark Tank, I'm going to run it by you all and please give feedback.

I'm pretty good at cooking but I've never been any good at making brownies. Today I attempted brownies again. The box said for a "cake like texture" add 3 eggs instead of 2 and I had nothing to lose, so I used 3 eggs. Apparently 3 eggs are an important ingredient in the making of sponges. I have succcessfully made brownies that you can eat and also use as a sponge. How great is that?!?! When you can no longer swallow the brownie, you can used what's left over to clean with. These brownies actually absorb water pretty well too. Gee, I'm already expanding. The possibilities are endless. Look out Mr. Clean!!!
waco1954

United States

#12777 Jun 12, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
Ok people, I think I've stumbled on a new invention. Before I take my invention to the Shark Tank, I'm going to run it by you all and please give feedback.
I'm pretty good at cooking but I've never been any good at making brownies. Today I attempted brownies again. The box said for a "cake like texture" add 3 eggs instead of 2 and I had nothing to lose, so I used 3 eggs. Apparently 3 eggs are an important ingredient in the making of sponges. I have succcessfully made brownies that you can eat and also use as a sponge. How great is that?!?! When you can no longer swallow the brownie, you can used what's left over to clean with. These brownies actually absorb water pretty well too. Gee, I'm already expanding. The possibilities are endless. Look out Mr. Clean!!!
I just ate an entire wedding cake.I feel so guilty.Maybe your brownies would help sponge up the guilt.....

Since: Dec 11

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#12778 Jun 12, 2012
waco1954 wrote:
<quoted text> I just ate an entire wedding cake.I feel so guilty.Maybe your brownies would help sponge up the guilt.....
There you go, another use for my brownies!! As I said, the possibilities are endless!! BTW, did you get married or just hankering a wedding cake??
The Truth

Knoxville, TN

#12779 Jun 12, 2012
waco1954 wrote:
Tell me something true today Truth.You haven't lost your edge have you?
Jesus is Lord of all.
waco1954

United States

#12780 Jun 12, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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There you go, another use for my brownies!! As I said, the possibilities are endless!! BTW, did you get married or just hankering a wedding cake??
Man...I LOVE wedding cake...once a year...when km a bit down..I suck down an entire wedding cake...52,000 sugar rich calories soon render me incoherent and halfway to the moon on a crushing sugar high.....I have no doubt the state of Texas will any day make sugar illegal...everything else is...ha!
waco1954

United States

#12781 Jun 12, 2012
The Truth wrote:
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Jesus is Lord of all.
Gee Truth...you didn't have to haul out the BIG GUNS...
IAmActuallyALawy er

Mooresville, NC

#12782 Jun 12, 2012
Is anything interesting going on in this thread? I've been busy.
waco1954

United States

#12783 Jun 12, 2012
IAmActuallyALawyer wrote:
Is anything interesting going on in this thread? I've been busy.
Lately the talk had been about public schools versus private schools.
The Truth

Knoxville, TN

#12784 Jun 13, 2012
Waco,

Have you noticed how civil the thread has gotten lately? Interesting how the anger leaves when a certain unnamed person is no longer around. Could there be a connection?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#12785 Jun 13, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Mike, as a parent that sent my child to private school and did without some of the "extras" to do so. My parents raised me in a Christian home, and I loved the sciences. I think my degree in microbiology is proof. My husband and I have raised my daughter in a Christian home and she jumped right into the field of medicine. We have never had a conflict of science with our religion. Mike, I don't know if you've been to college or if you have what courses you took, but evolution versus creationism was never debated that much. Chemistry has more to do with math, especially if you get into quantitative chemistry. Identifying bacteria under a microscope, or learning about the anatomy and physiology of the body, DNA, peptides, polypeptides, amino acids etc has nothing to do with how we got here, but more to do with what we are now. It's kind of like which came first the chicken or the egg; it doesn't matter which came first if you're craving KFC or an Egg McMuffin. I know it concerns you how we got here, but in the fields of microbiology trying to identify bacteria causing diseases or in the field of medicine trying to identify if one needs surgery versus using medication to treat an illness doesn't have anything to do with evolution and that seems to be a sticking point for you. These sciences are used in the here and now and no matter if you believe in evolution and I believe in creationism, we can't rewrite history, so arguing about it is a moot point.
Mike, you are correct about children being raised in homes by parents that are illiterate, puts the children at a great disadvantage and it will take a generation or two to break the cycle. Did your parents tell you not to believe things taught in school? I've never heard of that too much. My parents taught me to respect our teachers, not question authority and do our work.
I hear people saying the teachers are lying in cases such as evolution. If the children never hear this I would be surprised.

I understand one can study the natural sciences and yet deny much of the findings are of a natural cause.

And you are absolutely wrong about bacteria and evolution with medication. Bacteria can evolve to overcome medication and scientists who deny this occurs will never be able to develop the proper medicine for the bacteria.

Viruses evolve also and AIDs research shows evolution is key to understand and deal with. As the AIDs virus evolves very fast to medications.

I did not claim evolution is debated at the college level. So why are you inventing a charge? But they do teach evolution depending on what class you take.
If you are an anthropology student, and are a creationist, I would imagine there would be a lot of conflict in learning.

Yes, if you are just studying to be a lab tech, you can probably get by being in denial about evolution.

I see you did nothing with your training in science. The person who does not think a god did it all is more likely motivated to learn and do more with that learning of the natural sciences.
Why? Because he is still curious of how it all went down. You think you already know the answer. Evolutionists are still looking at the question and trying to sort out all the specifics of the answers. It is very complex.

And the egg came hundreds millions of years before the chicken.
The mystery has been long solved on that question.
Chickens are descended from the dinosaur. All birds are. The national academy of science just made that official claim this week.

So next time you eat chicken, realize you are eating a small winged, non flying dinosaur.

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