FBI Task Force Arrests Oregon Teacher on Child Porn Charge

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FBI Agents and members of the FBI's Innocent Images Task Force arrested JUSTIN MICHAEL GILLEN, age 24, on one count of possession of child pornography.

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Sherie

Baltimore, MD

#23 Oct 28, 2006
My goodness - you sure paint everything with a broad brush. I am an independent Baptist, I love the Lord, I love truth, I make no excuse for any man's sin. You seem to be filled with hate toward the Baptists. This is just a name for a church that tries to live as a New Testament church is supposed to. Our main emphasis is to represent Christ I sure don't see a whole lot of that going on in these posts. Of course these men are wrong. What they have done is far removed from anything to do with Christianity.
Christ Vestal wrote:
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Just so that you know, I can call what he did disgusting and wrong because God calls it disgusting and wrong! Are you baptists so stupid that anytime someone calls what you and your leaders (Jack Hyles, Dave Hyles, Jack Schaap, Michael Gillen) do sin, or doesn't use fancy phrases to gloss over the sexual perversion rampant in fundamentalism, that you get angry? Read your Bible! You are such Pharasees! You claim to have the only Bible, but by your beliefs you obviously don't read it! Crack that book open and see what Jesus says about causing a little one to stumble, and that is EXACTLY what Gillen and Dave Hyles were involved in. I guess every sex pervert, money grubbing pastor, hypocrite, and idiot should be Independent Baptist so that no one can say anything against them? Are you, abc, are advocating giving a carte blanche to any Baptist based on his church preference? Get over yourself! Sin is sin, and it is a Christian's right to call it so. Maybe you defend Gillen because you already know how corrupt the Independent Baptists are.
Christ Vestal

Molalla, OR

#24 Oct 31, 2006
Sherie wrote:
My goodness - you sure paint everything with a broad brush. I am an independent Baptist, I love the Lord, I love truth, I make no excuse for any man's sin. You seem to be filled with hate toward the Baptists. This is just a name for a church that tries to live as a New Testament church is supposed to. Our main emphasis is to represent Christ I sure don't see a whole lot of that going on in these posts. Of course these men are wrong. What they have done is far removed from anything to do with Christianity.
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I find it funny that baptists that have no idea whatsoever about earlier Christianity always make the claim that they are a restoration of the New Testament Church. This is the same claims that the Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons make. I guess that if Jack Hyles said something, it must have been true!(Just like he claimed to preach 80,000 sermons dring his life - just under THREE SERMONS A DAY SINCE BIRTH!) If the baptist "leaders" say something, it MUST be true, no matter how obvious a lie it is!

By the way, as to "painting with a broad brush," here are a few more old sayings that will fit: "If the shoe fits, wear it!" and "The dog thats hit howls the loudest."
Before parroting any more wild claims you have heard in your baptist "church," you might want to research the facts.
100 _for_Hyles

Molalla, OR

#25 Nov 1, 2006
You are a ignrant slobb!!! You think you so high and might to be having the emailings about the dearly deperted Dr. Hyles! He was the man of God thet kept America free!!! He was the man of God that kept the commiees from taking over the country that you and other deeper life christiands live in!! You have no right to questions him about anything he says to about preaching sermons or the Lords Supper or sex.
He is the better man than you are and he is closer to god than you will ever be, and I don't need to read what you say the Bible says or what I think the Bible say because dr hyles and dr schaap tell me because they are closer to God than I will ever be! I went to Hyles anderson, and I think you never did!!! You are making fun of Grand View Baptist Church and CHRIS VESTAL!!! YOU ARE NOT HIMS AT ALL!!! HOW DAR YOU MOCK A MAN OF GOD!!! HE IS HOLY AND IS BETTER THAN YOU AND YOU ARE GOING TO HELL BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT SAVED BECAUSE YOU TOUCHED THE LORDS ANNOINTED THE MAN OF GOD AND IF YOU WERE SAVED YU WOOD NOT DO THAT!!! I WENT TO GVCA AND I LIKED IT!!
Christ Vestal wrote:
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I find it funny that baptists that have no idea whatsoever about earlier Christianity always make the claim that they are a restoration of the New Testament Church. This is the same claims that the Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons make. I guess that if Jack Hyles said something, it must have been true!(Just like he claimed to preach 80,000 sermons dring his life - just under THREE SERMONS A DAY SINCE BIRTH!) If the baptist "leaders" say something, it MUST be true, no matter how obvious a lie it is!
By the way, as to "painting with a broad brush," here are a few more old sayings that will fit: "If the shoe fits, wear it!" and "The dog thats hit howls the loudest."
Before parroting any more wild claims you have heard in your baptist "church," you might want to research the facts.
tellmemoe

AOL

#26 Nov 5, 2006
100 _for_Hyles wrote:
You are a ignrant slobb!!! You think you so high and might to be having the emailings about the dearly deperted Dr. Hyles! He was the man of God thet kept America free!!! He was the man of God that kept the commiees from taking over the country that you and other deeper life christiands live in!! You have no right to questions him about anything he says to about preaching sermons or the Lords Supper or sex.
He is the better man than you are and he is closer to god than you will ever be, and I don't need to read what you say the Bible says or what I think the Bible say because dr hyles and dr schaap tell me because they are closer to God than I will ever be! I went to Hyles anderson, and I think you never did!!! You are making fun of Grand View Baptist Church and CHRIS VESTAL!!! YOU ARE NOT HIMS AT ALL!!! HOW DAR YOU MOCK A MAN OF GOD!!! HE IS HOLY AND IS BETTER THAN YOU AND YOU ARE GOING TO HELL BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT SAVED BECAUSE YOU TOUCHED THE LORDS ANNOINTED THE MAN OF GOD AND IF YOU WERE SAVED YU WOOD NOT DO THAT!!! I WENT TO GVCA AND I LIKED IT!!
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Learn to spell, you ignorant ass!
byGodsgrace

Jackson, MS

#27 Nov 6, 2006
y'all are full of it and have no idea what your talking about. when you attend either of those churches for a while and see what they are really all about, you'd understand. When's the last time any of you actually spent hours and hours in the Bible or in prayer with Jesus? yea, that's what I thought. Go ahead and do that then maybe you would have a right to your opinion. No wonder you don't understand what they mean or are talking about...yea, y'all wouldn't know.
100_for_Hyles

Molalla, OR

#28 Nov 6, 2006
byGodsgrace wrote:
y'all are full of it and have no idea what your talking about. when you attend either of those churches for a while and see what they are really all about, you'd understand. When's the last time any of you actually spent hours and hours in the Bible or in prayer with Jesus? yea, that's what I thought. Go ahead and do that then maybe you would have a right to your opinion. No wonder you don't understand what they mean or are talking about...yea, y'all wouldn't know.
AMEN!!! Im' glad to sea that ther are other true christians (when I say that I mean Baptists, becuse any one else is a child of the catholic church, and therefor going to hell!) on the interweb. I dont no where they get off saying those things about Dr. Hyles and Dr. Schaap. If they new how close they walk (and had walked) with God they would now thet Dr. Schaap nows more about the Bible than eny man living!!(and besides, I am a happier man at the home now that my wife nows thet being intimate is accepting Christ AMEN FOR PASTORS SCHOOL) If I dont understand what Dr. Schaap or Dr. Mutchler means or it sounds different, I remember thet God put them there in my life as my athority, and thet God talks to them in ways he doesnt to me, and thet the man of God will anser for me in the jugement. All I have to do is beleve in Jesus and obey my preacher! I feel sorry for those sorry no good dogs who think thet they have to understand the Bible for themselvs (they dont even have the real Bible, the KING JAMES BIBLE, they probably have some jew translasion devil chunks NIV or NASB or RSV) The man of God will tell us what god wants us to now and we dont need to worry about stuff we might not understand.

byGodsGrace, I am happy to make your akwantanse on the interweb and to have talked (sort of) with a fello servant of God.
byGodsgrace

Jackson, MS

#30 Nov 7, 2006
To: 100_for_Hyles - I appreciate your response although I do believe if you are saved than it doesn't matter what religion you are or ever become, God loves everyone, even those who mock His name. I also believe in finding out truth for yourself, it is just as much our job as our preacher's to find out for ourselves what God's Word means. God's man is very important. Multiple times in the Bible God illudes to the fact if His man(men) is (are) mocked or scorned great punishment WILL follow. I trust Dr. Jack Schaap, his wisdom, and the men he trust with the truth. Dr. Schaap and Dr. Mutchler who I've heard multiple times obviously have a close walk with God. Therefore, I would stupid not to listen to their instruction and wisdom. Yes, they make mistakes just like everyone else and no they are not "super humans" but they are annointed by our Almighty God. I think it's almost funny to see people criticize men that they are pretty much just jealous of. If they had the truth and lived by the Book they would probably be criticized for what they believe too. What Dr. Schaap and Dr. Mutchler need the most is our prayers. God can do mutch more than any critic will ever do!
Sincerely, byGodsgrace
Ernie Merritt

Cumberland City, TN

#31 Nov 7, 2006
I haven't read all of the postings. I did however read enough that I felt as though I should respond to those critics of my former Preacher, Dr. Jack Hyles.
I was reached by the bus ministry of First Baptist Church. My father was an alcoholic. I never heard the words "I Love You" at home when I was young. It was at First Baptist that I learned of Gods love for me and I trusted Christ as my only way to Heaven
I learned to love my parents and to express that love to them. It wasn't long before my parents learned to express their love to me. My Mother came to church, trusted Christ, and began driving in to church from Chicago every Sunday.
Not long before my fathers death, he too trusted Christ, was baptized and began coming to church.
I can count on my hands the times I've missed church through the years since my very first Sunday riding a bus to church. I entered a Christian high school in 8th grade. My first year there, Bro. Hyles paid my tuition.
There was an elderly lady at FBC named Harriet Goodlow. Miss. Hariot never married, had no children and no relatives. Bro. Hyles arranged for her to be taken care of when she could not care for herself. Miss. Harriet spent many Sunday afternoons at our house. She rode home with us from Hammond to Chicago. She had some problems with her feet which required medically prescibed shoes. I remember asking her about a new pair of shoes that she had and she replyed "Bro. Hyles got them for me"
Bro. Hyles is no longer here on the earth. God used Bro. Hyles to make a difference in my life! I don't know if you'd call my honor for my Preacher worship- but, I do know that I worship the God he taught me to worship. Bro. Hyles is dead, God is not. I do thank God for sending me a Preacher who I love, respect, honor and trust!!!
100 _for_Hyles

Molalla, OR

#32 Nov 8, 2006
To my brothers in Christ Ernie Merrit and by God's grace. I am so blesd to have seen thet there are people that are true christians on the interweb and Ernie I am so gratefull thet you gat to sit under the influense of the great Dr Hyles. I gat his sermons tapes for meny years from Dr Mutchler and i thought thet they were the best thet could be heard. I am sorry for those who badmouth Dr Hyles and Dr Schaap because they are not christians because Dr Mutchler says "by there froot you shall now them" and if there froot is to be the badmouthers of Dr Hyles and Dr Schaap and Dr Mutchler they arenot christiands . We wood not be living in a free country today if it were not for cooragus Men/God like Dr Hyles (I like to say Man/God because he was so surenndered to the Holy Ghost thet it wasn't Jack Hyles thet was talking to me on those sermons tapes but the Holy Ghost of God) When you sea what Dr. Hyles and Dr. Schaap uncovered in th Bible you realize thet there sermons is just as inspired as the Bible because the walks with God thet Dr. Hyles and Dr. Schaap and Dr. Mutchler has is so close thet they are giving us words of inspuration frum the very moth of God!! I thank the lord evry day I read my KJB because I now thet I wouldnt live in a country where it is leagle to own a Bible if it wasnt for Dr. Hyles and Dr. Schaap and Dr. Mutchler standing in the gap.

To Christ Vestal. I now hoo you are! You think you are to high and might to listen to the man/god? God will show you when he hurts you and your family for not listen to the man/god. Dr Hyles and Dr Schaap and Dr Mutchler now more abote the Bible thet you ever will. they are possed by the holy spirit of the most high and they are closer to god then you could ever dream of being but I dont' think thet you dream of being close to god because you are a bad man who kicks against the pricks of jesus christ in the persons of dr Hyles and Dr Schaap and Dr Mutchler. If Dr. Schaap says thet when I have intimasy with my wife she is receving christ then it is so. If Dr. Schaap says thet the lords' supper is is sex with god then it is so. If Dr. Schaap says thet you will have a betr sex life when you are close to the word of god then IT IS SO!!!!! By the ways the wife and i have eight king james bibles under the mattress of our bed and our intimates life is better. I think thet you need to realize thet what dr Hyles said and what Dr. Schaap says and what Dr. Mutchler says is far more correcter then enything thet you could come up with reeding the Bible. You dont' even reed the right bible but you reed some jew loving modren translation made by a bunch of jew stock market banker copyright holding homosexuals! If you want to get rite with god and man/god you need to come back to the grand view baptist church and beg furgiveness from Dr. Mutchler so thet satan dosnt' sift you like wheat. I would say god bless, but Dr. Mutchler says to not wish an infidel godspeed.

100%for Hyles
Christ Vestal

Molalla, OR

#33 Nov 8, 2006
Proverbs 26:4 CVV "Answer not a baptist according to his folly, lest thou also be like him.
byGodsgrace

San Francisco, CA

#34 Nov 8, 2006
wow, "CW" you've got a lot of gumption to come up with your own version! It's too bad people like you get punished. Anyway, I had the privelage of growing up in First Baptist since the week after I was born. I wouldn't be here and neither would thousands of others if it weren't for First Baptist Church. My parents met at Hyles-Anderson College the greatest college ever, I had the privelage of going there and I wouldn't be serving God if it weren't for Dr. Hyles and Dr. Schaap. I owe them so much,and before a bunch of ignorant losers with nothing better to do than talk bad about God's annointed, criticize them they better step back and look at the big picture. God has obviously blessed them. They are so busy doing God's work they don't have time to criticize! It's a good thing they're godly and pray for people like you...it saves your hides!
Christ Vestal

Molalla, OR

#35 Nov 8, 2006
byGodsgrace wrote:
wow, "CW" you've got a lot of gumption to come up with your own version! It's too bad people like you get punished. Anyway, I had the privelage of growing up in First Baptist since the week after I was born. I wouldn't be here and neither would thousands of others if it weren't for First Baptist Church. My parents met at Hyles-Anderson College the greatest college ever, I had the privelage of going there and I wouldn't be serving God if it weren't for Dr. Hyles and Dr. Schaap. I owe them so much,and before a bunch of ignorant losers with nothing better to do than talk bad about God's annointed, criticize them they better step back and look at the big picture. God has obviously blessed them. They are so busy doing God's work they don't have time to criticize! It's a good thing they're godly and pray for people like you...it saves your hides!
I guess that if something has a lot of attendees then it is "blessed of God"? Hmmm... That makes the beach blessed by God and it also make almost every major sporting event blessed by God, as well as political rallies, restaurants, "gentlemens" clubs, and ice skating rinks. Maybe you are count haveing someone say a prayer as being blessed by God? The Roman Catholics and Greek Ortodox say quite a few prayers, does that make them "blessed by God"? How about the buddist monks, they say prayers all the time? Where would you be? Reading your own Bible perhaps, instead of spewing whatever dreck youv'e been spoon fed from that college and FBC's Pulpit. I pray that you will soon see the light as to Jack Schaap's departure from historic baptist distinctives and his adoption of Charismatic 'Covenant Theology'(given to him by 'Dr.' Mutchler), placing himself and his church under the Abrahamic covenant, and blaspheming the Body and Blood of Christ.

PS it was the C V V not the CW (Christ Vestal Version) a parody and a prod at the King James Only Movement's denial of God's ability to preserve His Word.
byGodsgrace

Jackson, MS

#36 Nov 8, 2006
So, you're saying God's not able to preserve His Word? Maybe I misunderstood. Anyway, no I'm not saying the amount of attendees makes a difference at all! There are thousands of churches across this country who have as little as 10 people and there preacher is just as God ordained, blessed, and filled with the Holy Spirit as Dr. Jack Schaap. It's just very obvious he is, that's all. And last time I checked you haven't visited Dr. Jack Schaap's prayer closet, so you wouldn't have the slightest idea how much he prays!(It's ok though. If I was in your shoes and not right with God, I'd probably be jealous and critical too) Oh, and don't criticize people for spelling things wrong when you do it yourself!- byGodsgrace
byGodsgrace

Jackson, MS

#37 Nov 8, 2006
Oh, and one more thing. I wasn't saying "CW" was a version of the Bible, I was refering to your name.
byGodsgrace

Jackson, MS

#38 Nov 8, 2006
Oh, I'm so, so, so, so sorry! I meant "CV"! I do apologize, I hope you will forgive me.
byGodsgrace

Jackson, MS

#39 Nov 8, 2006
Once Enslaved by GVBC wrote:
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Unlike your religion, this discussion isn't about tearing someone else down or self glorification: it is about exposing the TRUTH. The truth is: preverse sexual deviance is proven to be fostered in "christian" churches that inhibit normal childhood development by restricting natural exploration, curiosity, and eduacation. If "fundumental baptist" churches loosened their straitjacket, their might not be as many criminals in this world (IMAGINE THAT!!).
And who the hell do you think you are telling someone to open their bible and not judge someone else? Do you not understand your sentance COMPLETELY REVEALS YOUR HYPOCRASY!! I can say this, because I am atheist and can judge whomever I want. But you are judging someone, telling them they shouldn't judge someone else. Do you understand, or are you so wrapped up in your dillusional little world that you can't see past your own moral elitism? Open your eyes and stop living in denial. You are wrong, your way of life and dedication to your religion is wrong, and your proposition to forgive, overlook child rape is completely wrong.
So tell me I'm going to hell, tell me it is okay to promote horrible criminal actions, tell me how much better you are than me: tell me how big a hypocrite you are
Um...there's no such thing as an atheist.
Christ Vestal

Molalla, OR

#40 Nov 8, 2006
You have all been played. I am both Christ Vestal and 100% for Hyles!!! Isn't this fun? I made you upset! Hee Hee! I like tweaking people's nose! You had done been had by thet there interweb. HA HA HA HA HA!!!

I'm sorry if it caused any discomfort, I gave in to my sinful flesh and made a bunch of people get their panties in a knot over what someone else thinks.

For the record: I believe that salvation is a free gift by grace through faith, and that Jesus is all that is needed for salvation. The Bible is God's Holy, Inspired Word; the rule and norm for ALL faith and practice. God created the World and all it contains in six 24 hour days as the Scriptures say.

I believe in God the Father Almighty, creator of heaven and earth.
And in Jesus Christ His only Son, my Lord. Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died and was buried. He decended into hell. He rose again on the third day and ascended into heaven and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almight, from thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Ghost, the holy christian church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body and the life everlasting. Amen

This is most certainly true.

Again, I am sorry for my sin of stirring up anger needlessly. It was my intention to do so for my own enjoyment in the "nome de plume" of Christ Vestal and 100_ for_Hyles. Sorry if any of that struck a little too close to home.
Freedom

Molalla, OR

#41 Nov 9, 2006
byGodsgrace wrote:
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Um...there's no such thing as an atheist.
Isn't that like saying there is no such thing as the colour blue, or there is no such thing as an Englishman?
-although the Frogs might agree on that last one
;-)

I guess I would have heard it firsthand for it to be funny, eh?

Christ Vestal - it would have been funnier if you had kept it going!
byGodsgrace

Jackson, MS

#42 Nov 10, 2006
Well, it's no fun now! I was kinda doing the same thing, but I didn't lie about what I said. I'm sure glad you do think that, but the sad thing is there are so many that do think that. I guess you "gave up" because you were pinned down and didn't have a good comeback, right? Just Kidding. Well, wherever you are good luck with life, and maybe we'll meet on another blog someday!-byGodsgrace (good coverup with the bad spelling!)
Lynnea Mejia

Mount Juliet, TN

#43 Nov 13, 2006
As someone who grew up under the ministry of Dr. Jack Hyles and knew him personally, it irritates me to read comments posted by people who took gossip, gave it wings, created their own truths and now tout it is gospel. In the end, God knows the truth. For that reason, I can read the drivel written by people who only hope that Dr. Hyles was wrong so that they can continue their lifestyle. It seems to me that more time should be spent building up God's Word and His ways than tearing down others.

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