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concern citizen

Florissant, MO

#1 Jun 11, 2012
If the country is doing so bad and the economy is so bad why is that everywhere you go to shop there is no parking are you have to park afar off. The traffic is heavy every where you go people are buying, selling help want ads all over town. republican explain that please.
easy

Mexico, MO

#2 Jun 12, 2012
"The private sector is doing fine." that explains it.
Tax Man

AOL

#3 Jun 12, 2012
concern citizen wrote:
If the country is doing so bad and the economy is so bad why is that everywhere you go to shop there is no parking are you have to park afar off. The traffic is heavy every where you go people are buying, selling help want ads all over town. republican explain that please.
Increase in food stamps increase's traffic.
bufu

Saint Louis, MO

#4 Jun 12, 2012
Helps to feed the poor and increases economic activity. Food stamps are a twofer.
A Conservative

Jackson, MO

#5 Jun 12, 2012
bufu wrote:
Helps to feed the poor and increases economic activity. Food stamps are a twofer.
Not exactly. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for helping someone who needs help, but food stamps don't exactly increase economic activity.

In Economics 101, we were taught that 70% of every dollar that originated from the private sector was spent 7 times. So, a dollar of your pay that you spend contributes $3.05 to the economy.

While due to government inefficiency, 70% of that same dollar that came from some government program was only spent 4 times. This dollar only contributes $2.53. This means that the dollar provided by the gov't is worth 20% less than the one you earned.
bufu

Saint Louis, MO

#6 Jun 12, 2012
Food stamps provide revenue for stores. Stores provide revenue for grocery distributors. Grocery distributors provide revenue for a variety of producers from food to soap.

Food stamps provide economic activity. Economic efficiency is a different subject.
Local

Saint Louis, MO

#7 Jun 12, 2012
If, in fact, government inefficiency reduces the spending power of the dollar, then people that WORK for the government have a job, pay taxes, and spend the money they earn thereby promoting the economy. There's always a silver lining...ya just got to look for it.
bufu

Jefferson City, MO

#8 Jun 12, 2012
That is correct. The "inefficiency" is administrative costs. The salaries are economically stimulative and so are purchases of office supplies.
bufu

Saint Louis, MO

#9 Jun 14, 2012
Good for the senate:
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"The Senate on Wednesday defeated a Republican-offered measure to drastically cut food stamps.

The amendment to the farm bill, offered by Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), was shot down 65-33 in the Democratic-led chamber. It would have slashed $322 billion by placing a cap on Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program spending and handing control to states.

The vote is a reminder of the fiercely ideological nature of today’s Republican Party, particularly when considering the economic bang for the buck food stamps are known to have. The Congressional Budget Office and other nonpartisan studies have found that food stamps provide exceptionally strong stimulative and job-creation value in an under-performing economy."

more

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/se...
Oh My

Sedalia, MO

#10 Jun 14, 2012
bufu wrote:
That is correct. The "inefficiency" is administrative costs. The salaries are economically stimulative and so are purchases of office supplies.
By that same logic, vandalism and theft are economically stimulative.

The fact is the only truly economically beneficial endeavors are those that actually produce a useful or desired product. All other activities (handouts, administration and regulation, etc) have a net negative effect on economic growth.

Creating "make-work" jobs, simply for the sake of employing people is counter-productive. At the end of the game, someone has to pay the bill.

As Margaret Thatcher pointed out decades ago; "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money".
bufu

Saint Louis, MO

#11 Jun 14, 2012
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"By that same logic, vandalism and theft are economically stimulative."

Yep. So is war.
Tax Man

AOL

#12 Jun 14, 2012
bufu wrote:
Good for the senate:
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"The Senate on Wednesday defeated a Republican-offered measure to drastically cut food stamps.
The amendment to the farm bill, offered by Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), was shot down 65-33 in the Democratic-led chamber. It would have slashed $322 billion by placing a cap on Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program spending and handing control to states.
The vote is a reminder of the fiercely ideological nature of today’s Republican Party, particularly when considering the economic bang for the buck food stamps are known to have. The Congressional Budget Office and other nonpartisan studies have found that food stamps provide exceptionally strong stimulative and job-creation value in an under-performing economy."
more
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/06/se...
Taxpayers screwed over by liberals again, nothing new. I hope voter are taking names..
bufu

Saint Louis, MO

#13 Jun 14, 2012
Food stamp recipients are tax payers. They are also American citizens.

You're no better than any of them.
little john

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#14 Jun 14, 2012
bufu wrote:
Food stamps provide revenue for stores. Stores provide revenue for grocery distributors. Grocery distributors provide revenue for a variety of producers from food to soap.
Food stamps provide economic activity. Economic efficiency is a different subject.
This maybe true, but most of the jobs that are created(not all)by food stamps, the works, don't pay taxes or very little. So how many tax payers does it take to give 1 person food stamps?
bufu

Columbia, MO

#15 Jun 14, 2012
I don't know that food stamps create jobs. It's possible I guess.

I also don't know how many taxpayers it takes to give one person food stamps.
Phantom WSO RVN

Peaster, TX

#16 Jun 14, 2012
The Government can't give you anything it hasn't taken from someone else, think about it! Nothing wrong with assisting our fellow man, but our Govt. officials create a system where too many have to depend on it. If we had jobs, that would decrease the elgibility for assistance. That's the problem, Politicians promising hand-outs and people would rather have jobs, except for the normal list of welfare bums who don't want to work to begin with.
bufu

Cape Girardeau, MO

#17 Jun 14, 2012
Welfare requires dependent children or the medicare eligible elderly or the disabled.

No one gets welfare without those conditions.
Tax Man

AOL

#18 Jun 14, 2012
Phantom WSO RVN wrote:
The Government can't give you anything it hasn't taken from someone else, think about it! Nothing wrong with assisting our fellow man, but our Govt. officials create a system where too many have to depend on it. If we had jobs, that would decrease the elgibility for assistance. That's the problem, Politicians promising hand-outs and people would rather have jobs, except for the normal list of welfare bums who don't want to work to begin with.
Well said.....are you on that list BUFU...
bufu

Saint Louis, MO

#19 Jun 14, 2012
I'm retired drawing a Teamster pension.

Retirement is great. I highly recommend it. Social Security kicks in in about 5 yrs and I insist that I get every dollar of scheduled benefits.
Phantom WSO RVN

Wichita Falls, TX

#20 Jun 14, 2012
I wonder how many dependent children are born each year with the "sperm donors" living apart from the baby factory mother, or those famalies who draw welfare from one generation to the next?.........Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder! GOD BLESS the needy, SHAME on those who scam the system. I bet there are 'a plenty!

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