Canajoharie Youth Football
a stinky behind

Canajoharie, NY

#21 Aug 23, 2012
coach hyney is a excellent coach any one to say otherwise about him lacks a brain and might as well just jump off a bridge.
Varisty Football Coach

Schenectady, NY

#22 Aug 23, 2012
Reguardless of how the draft was done or how the teams turned out, fair or not fair. The coaches need to be the adults and make the teams fair. If someone gets hurt or another team gets wind of all this more problems can occur and waste a whole season. Make the changes before all the parents get wind of this. If Coach Hyney and Fox can't see the problems maybe it is time for them to step down even if they have given alot to the program and then get involved when their kids or friends kids have passed through the program. There is nothing wrong with having trouble being unbiased when your kids are involved that is Human but you need to recognize it and back out when it happens. otherwise you lose respect. It will also start to negatively inpact how people look at you and your kids.
Varisty Football Coach

Albany, NY

#23 Aug 23, 2012
a stinky behind wrote:
coach hyney is a excellent coach any one to say otherwise about him lacks a brain and might as well just jump off a bridge.
Your opinion of his coaching means nothing when you tell people to do something that very likely would end with thier death. You don't represent coach Hyney well when you tie his name to something like this. Obviously people are very upset with how the teams were picked, go coach or not, he is not acting responsible. This issue should be addressed and rectified.
Parent

Albany, NY

#24 Aug 23, 2012
Football wrote:
QUOTE who="honestly"]All of you have valid points. Coach Hyney means well. Unfortunately, the way he went about choosing (w/Coach Fox's support which is his friend and the president)- sticking Shawn with 4 kids and Shawn had no say in it, was inappropriate. Furthermore, the weight of the kids on gold far outweigh the weight of the players on the white team.(As a fellow coach, Shawn had no choice in the matter. I really hope that we don't lose any of the the hard-working men as
Why aren't Coach Bowerman, Coach Logan and Coach Littman causing hell over this? They dont seem like the type to just stay quiet??????
My kid was coached by coach Bowerman and he is great with the Kids, I would like to think he did what he could. He is not the type to start stuff-kinda quiet so I can see the other two rolling over him. This program has been headed in this direction for a while. i can say to the parents at the lower levels it doesn't get better in highschool. People are tough on Coach Sullivan but he has his hands full with his coaches and now hes got coach Fox and Hyney in the mix. I see the perfect storm coming. Maybe the program hitting rock bottom would be good!!
Not involved

Albany, NY

#25 Aug 23, 2012
I had to click on this because it was a "hot topic". I'm not involoved with this program but I hear the gossip aroung town. I can't believe the Hyney family along with the relatives the Kojans, could even defend this. I'm not sure who these people are coming to their defense but I'm guessing it is the people who are in thier back pocket. This behavior is well known and Not a secret. I even remember someone talking last year 3 out of the 4 quarterbacks were from these 2 families. Obviously, the parent are making this happen and giving thier kid a hand up. I am sure many kids could have filled those positions but were not even given a try. Call a spade a spade. Stop defending it and change it. The rest of the community would love to stop hearing about it. This coming to light I think I just might stop supporting the program-no more fund raisiers for me.
honestly

United States

#26 Aug 23, 2012
I say we calmly talk to the coaches. Perhaps, there was some miscommunication with how this went down. By the way, many of the comments on here are just plain wrong.
The intelligent comments regarding Coach Hyney's time and dedication have made me rethink.
Cool Heads

Schenectady, NY

#27 Aug 23, 2012
honestly wrote:
I say we calmly talk to the coaches. Perhaps, there was some miscommunication with how this went down. By the way, many of the comments on here are just plain wrong.
The intelligent comments regarding Coach Hyney's time and dedication have made me rethink.
This sounds like a good plan, hopefully it will be initated by the coaches. Look forward to it!
Cool Heads

Albany, NY

#28 Aug 23, 2012
Not involved wrote:
I had to click on this because it was a "hot topic". I'm not involoved with this program but I hear the gossip aroung town. I can't believe the Hyney family along with the relatives the Kojans, could even defend this. I'm not sure who these people are coming to their defense but I'm guessing it is the people who are in thier back pocket. This behavior is well known and Not a secret. I even remember someone talking last year 3 out of the 4 quarterbacks were from these 2 families. Obviously, the parent are making this happen and giving thier kid a hand up. I am sure many kids could have filled those positions but were not even given a try. Call a spade a spade. Stop defending it and change it. The rest of the community would love to stop hearing about it. This coming to light I think I just might stop supporting the program-no more fund raisiers for me.
I hope that doesn't happen just because the coaches are acting badly don't take it out on the kids!!!!
Ditka

Fort Plain, NY

#29 Aug 23, 2012
Sounds like the whole problem was a result of only 2 of the 5 coaches being involved in the decision making process; need to have more coaches/adults involved. The Canjo youth baseball has a model program, they used 16 to 20 coaches for their two travel teams this past summer and had no issues.
repulsed

United States

#30 Aug 23, 2012
I am simply disgusted with how petty adults can be, this is a program for the enrichment of our children. No matter what parents feel about how teams are picked, or how they feel about adults in the program, this and any sport at this age level is about teaching the game, teaching respect, discipline, and having fun with your peers no matter how big, small, skilled or unskilled. Its to bad that some parents beloved winning is above all else. Seems to me some of the before mentioned lessions must have gotten lost in translation for the adults in life. To finish my thought, I have children in this program I am proud to be a member of this group, and I belive with parental guidence nothing but good comes from being involved. Next time you wish to complain keep inoccent children out of it.
Curious

Fort Plain, NY

#31 Aug 23, 2012
I am curious to know if the person who started this post has ever volunteered or stepped up to coach himself. It's very easy to sit back and complain about everything, but very difficult to step up to the plate and be a part of the solution. If you have all the answers why not get in there and implement. I have a very hard time beliving that Coach Bowerman sat by while being told what to do. Do you actually think you are doing him any favors by making him appear spineless? It's funny, but while droning on about the lessons that are being taught to these boys you are insinuating that there is only one important position on a football team and that is just not true. No matter what there is always going to be one quarterback, and there is always going to be somebody else who is jealous. Strange, but the boys are out there working together and doing just fine; maybe the bitching parents should keep quiet and learn a lesson from the boys.
player

United States

#32 Aug 24, 2012
They do it on the 3rd and 4th grade to
a stinky behind

Canajoharie, NY

#33 Aug 24, 2012
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What A Shame

Canajoharie, NY

#34 Aug 24, 2012
For the love of Football wrote:
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Ok Cherrie, you had to have written this. The fact is the draft was not fairly done and Hyney and Fox told Shawn who he had to have. If it is so fair release the weights of the players on each team to the parents, release the experience of the players on each team. This is getting nasty because Coach Hyney and Coach Fox got caught! They got called out when most of the time people let it go. You are joking yourselve if you think that people don't think this of these families. They may not say it to thier face but it is exactly what is being said. And its not jealousy or sour grapes it is the facts. There are many other kids that have as much talent or more that did not even have a chance at quarterback why? because DADDY is the coach. Pathetic!!!!
you are right about one thing it is about the kids, a majority wont play after highschool but way this program is run most will quit before highschool. Someone needs to remind Hyney and Fox of that.
I am new to this forum and was introduced tonight at my son's practice. All that I can say is wow! I was made aware of all of this nonsense and was devastated when I read all of the posts. I can only speak from experience. Coach Hyney is an amazing coach. He has mentored my son for the past 2 years in baseball. He devoted time above and beyond the head coach of his team. My son is not the most talented athlete but with the help of Coach Hyney, he has gained confidence and ability. That in and of itself says a lot for him as a coach. My son is playing football today because of encouragement from this man. He goes above and beyond to help the "under-dog" Also, my son played a season with one of his children with him being the coach and his child was not favored or placed in a key position. I am sad to think that people are posting things like...kids are quitting b/c of coach Hyney. If the kids are quitting I am sure it is not entirely their choice. These unfortunate kids are obviously being provoked or forced by their parent's decision. This creates children that will carry the community controversy on for future generations. After all, it is about the team as an entity not "key players", the quarterback couldn't succeed by himself. I am sure as a parent, we all want our children recognized and I know that Coach Hyney recognizes the lineman or the running back or the right guard as much as he would recognize the quarterback. He devotes his time and efforts to the children in this community. We should all step back and realize that this is about building characteristics and instilling moral and ethical values in our children. And for those who think that this is an unfair team selection, well as an adult, it is a good time to realize that life is not always fair instead of sheltering your children from reality. Coach, if you are reading this, I want to thank you for your efforts and devotion to this community! You are an amazing person and please know that you have a positive influence on these children and parents alike. Please don't give up, we need you!.....Be the better example and carry on with what you do best! Thank you!!! Good luck Little Dogs! You are all #1!!
What A Shame

Canajoharie, NY

#35 Aug 24, 2012
Not involved wrote:
I had to click on this because it was a "hot topic". I'm not involoved with this program but I hear the gossip aroung town. I can't believe the Hyney family along with the relatives the Kojans, could even defend this. I'm not sure who these people are coming to their defense but I'm guessing it is the people who are in thier back pocket. This behavior is well known and Not a secret. I even remember someone talking last year 3 out of the 4 quarterbacks were from these 2 families. Obviously, the parent are making this happen and giving thier kid a hand up. I am sure many kids could have filled those positions but were not even given a try. Call a spade a spade. Stop defending it and change it. The rest of the community would love to stop hearing about it. This coming to light I think I just might stop supporting the program-no more fund raisiers for me.
If we look at this situation from a broad perspective, we can all agree that Coach Hyney is a dedicated parent and the coach of our youth football team. Why should he punish his son because he is afraid that people will accuse him of just what they are accusing him of. He dedicates his life to his children and others in the community. He works with his son trying to make him the best that he can be. Given that, wouldn't you do the same? If my son had talent or potential talent I would enhance that. We are born opportunists...and I would do the same. Why shouldn't his son have the opportunity to be the quarterback just because he is the coache's son? Would you all be happier if his son wasn't given the opportunity? Is that really fair? Please consider everyone involved. Its about the team, not who the quarterback is! As far as no more fund raisers for me, that doesn't say much for you because to me it sounds like you want to punish our children because of narrow minded people.... For the team, I will fund raise twice as much next year even if it comes out of my own pocket!
A 300Ib panda

Fort Plain, NY

#36 Aug 24, 2012
Dont like the coaching don't have your kid play. Quite the bitching.
Unreal

Little Falls, NY

#37 Aug 25, 2012
People who come on here to degrade others are cowards. People who come on here to degrade children are simply sick and pathetic. Get a grip. Instead of complaining about the alleged unfairness, get involved with the program, talk to the coach, to the president of the program. Air your concerns like adults instead of acting like children.

People are always going to complain about something. Combine both teams into one, then there are no accusations about 'stacking a team'. Jealousy will be your downfall and your children will be the ones suffering for it. If your kid is good enough, his talents will show through regardless of the team size. Perhaps if you got you a@@ off of this site and practiced with your son as much as Coach Hyney does then your son will succeed.

Coach Hyney has been volunteering and coaching years before his son was even born. He has a passion to coach and not just for his son. It's called getting involved with your community and your children's lives. End your relationship with Topix, grab a football and interact with your
son. Quit making excuses and placing accusations on others. You are hurting the kids in the
long run.
mom of a 3rd grader

Canajoharie, NY

#38 Aug 25, 2012
player wrote:
They do it on the 3rd and 4th grade to
as a mom of a player just entering the program, I feel that the teams are quite fair for the 3/4. Coach Congdon took the time to tell us how the teams are divided up. And I feel that both teams are equal. If I was a parent coach or a coach and had a child playing in the division I was coaching surely I would want my child on my team. How else would I be able to watch their game? Duh. The kids were very excited to be placed on their designated team and I didn't see ONE child disappointed in where they were placed. And as for the returning 4th grade boys, of course they wanted to be placed on the team and with the coach they had last year... wouldn't you? and if it was able to happen the coach honored that request. Just like Coach Congdon said, He has no dog in the fight. He wants to see both teams accomplish their very best. I feel that ALL of the CYF coaches are absolutely the best. They may seem loud and intimidating but they have our children's best interest as their #1 priority... not winning a SuperBowl. They want our children to succeed, have discipline, pride in themselves and for the community to have pride in what these boys can and will accomplish. Maybe Coach Congdon needs to train some of you. You could learn a lesson from him and his team of coaches. You wanna act like an animal, suit up and get on a field with a ball. Of the field, ACT LIKE A CIVIL HUMAN BEING! and furthermore, A quarterback can't score a touchdown without an awesome receiver to catch and run a ball. A receiver can't make it to the touchdown line without an awesome team of defensemen protecting him. So while you feel that the Logan Boy is an awesom QB, which i'm sure he is, what's an Awesome QB without a support team? and I bet the Logan Boy is an awesome QB because Vinnie is out there throwing the ball with him NOT slandering dedicated and giving individuals on the internet.
mom of a 3rd grader

Canajoharie, NY

#39 Aug 25, 2012
and furthermore... sports are a vital part of raising a child and involving your child in the community. funding for sports is being cut all over. starting a topic like this tarnishes the program and deters future parents from wanting to pay the money and sign their child up. or even sign up for other programs these coaches may be involved in. i can tell you other programs some of these coaches and parent coaches are involved in. They truly care about the future of our smallest CCS residents... not just themselves. you will see these individuals standing poolside officiating Crocodile matches or being line timers. coaching little league. running up and down the courts encouraging and directing the biddy teams. and what are you doing besides blasting people online and holding down a bleacher pissing and moaning to the parent next to you?
player

Walpole, MA

#40 Aug 25, 2012
Must be your kid is on the 4th grade team y is it the good 3rd grade kids are on the 4th grade team then

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