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The Pew Research pollsters recently determined that the demographics of the "Tea Party." They revealed that the "Teas" are over 40, white, male and are "educated." What should really bother anyone of that demographic -- but not one of them -- is that the whole demographic is dragged in the mud by their antics.

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Sanity

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May 17, 2010
 
"All of us must gather information from all sources and then actually think -- not agree in knee-jerk fashion -- about the issues."

Actually, at a recent speech at Hampton University, Pres Obama said there is too much information out there, and that it's too much of a distraction. And besides, Der ObamaFuhrer HATES it when people think differently than he does...

It seems to me that it's people on the Left, like Mr Meier, who are filled with anger and hate.

At the very least, they're extremely bad at tolerating dissent.

We find you pretty repulsive, too, Mr. M.

[:-)

Have a good day.
Sanity

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May 17, 2010
 
One other thing.

Robert Gibbs is a revolting pig. If there is anyone approaching such despicable status, he is the Josef Goebbels of today.

Don't tolerate dissent, Sieg Obama, etc etc etc...

Isn't spring wonderful?
Herbert oBUMa

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May 18, 2010
 
So tea party is only 18 %? Then why worry? I have news for all you leftist lunatics.November is coming and you are going.
Savannah

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May 18, 2010
 
Talk about misinformed, Mr. Meier, I think you would want to get to know people who loosely relate themselves to the notion of "NO taxation without representation." These for the most part are wonderful, educated, pro-Americans, & if not educated, they are thinking people, not brainwashed by media elites and so called instiutes of higher learning. Who came first? Glenn Beck or "No taxation without represention?"

I do believe the tea party people are very informed. They only go to to Conservative Radio because of the News Block on government run media. Let me tell Mr. Meier, there are masses of people who resent the lack of fair and unbiased reporting. So many things go unreported every day.

We know quite well what Bush did. Do have you have any idea what the people who represent your demographic are doing? You appear not to. You vote in the good old boys you know, and grew up with, it appears. Do you ever stop to think of the ramifications.?

Some of us find it deplorable to live in a nation that focuses on health care instead of of job creation. Empty promises my friend. Is it compassion to make promises you can't keep. Tired of empty promises with no ability to back...
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May 18, 2010
 
So another NY meir suggest to read a book written by feminist socialist lunatic, Should recommend to read books of other socialists Karl Marx, Hitler, Lenin, Mao. These meirs are hopeless morons and their place at the dump
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May 18, 2010
 
Savannah wrote:
Talk about misinformed, Mr. Meier, I think you would want to get to know people who loosely relate themselves to the notion of "NO taxation without representation." These for the most part are wonderful, educated, pro-Americans, & if not educated, they are thinking people, not brainwashed by media elites and so called instiutes of higher learning. Who came first? Glenn Beck or "No taxation without represention?"
I do believe the tea party people are very informed. They only go to to Conservative Radio because of the News Block on government run media. Let me tell Mr. Meier, there are masses of people who resent the lack of fair and unbiased reporting. So many things go unreported every day.
We know quite well what Bush did. Do have you have any idea what the people who represent your demographic are doing? You appear not to. You vote in the good old boys you know, and grew up with, it appears. Do you ever stop to think of the ramifications.?
Some of us find it deplorable to live in a nation that focuses on health care instead of of job creation. Empty promises my friend. Is it compassion to make promises you can't keep. Tired of empty promises with no ability to back...
you have representation... u voted... and if u don't like it... vote again... the representation is in office.... that goes back to when the king made all the rules overseas without any input from America...u are represented, u just don't like them and that's fine, go change it, and read a damned history book or two before you speak of things you are ignorant of.
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May 18, 2010
 
This letter has to be a spoof. No one is as liberal as the tone suggests. If it's not a spoof, it's just sad.
The author claims the right is following right wing 'talk' in a knee jerk fashion yet he doesn't see himself as guilty of exactly that from the left. The only difference is that his liberalism is not sustainable because it's irresponsible. They want benefits without having to pay for them.
He cites the debt issue. Fair enough and good for him. Most conservatives were unhappy with Bush for spending us into debt. But nothing in the history of the country is like what we are seeing now. The current president has spent more money and created more debt in 13 months than Bush did in eight years.(And by the way, Bush had a Democratically controlled Congress running up debt in his last four years.) In fact, Obama's debt in just April of this year equaled Bush's first four years.
One of the 'demographic' aspects he left our of his letter is that virtually all of the Tea Party members pay taxes.(Only about 50% of adult Americans fall into this 'demographic'.) They have skin in the game and they are not seeing a return on their money. Of course they are unhappy.
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May 18, 2010
 
what wrote:
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you have representation... u voted... and if u don't like it... vote again... the representation is in office.... that goes back to when the king made all the rules overseas without any input from America...u are represented, u just don't like them and that's fine, go change it, and read a damned history book or two before you speak of things you are ignorant of.
The problem in 1776 was 'Taxation without Representation'. In 2010 it is the converse.'Representation without Taxation'. Until we solve this, we will have a large and angry group voting against the left.

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May 18, 2010
 
Jeffery Reel's partner speaks up here, shocking viewpoints.

Another victim of the mental disorder known as liberalism.

We shall not be defeated by their ilk or their ink for that matter.

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May 18, 2010
 
Let the liberals hate speech here begin
NOW!
Jeffrey Reel

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May 18, 2010
 
I have mixed feelings about the Letter to the Editor. First off, 18% is a dramatic number and should not be easily dismissed. That's 1/5th of the voters my friend. That doesn't make them right (no pun intended) or politically correct, but it makes them a force to be reckoned with. One can dismiss their lack of understanding when it comes to the details of their very own platform, but that doesn't lessen the power of their vote.

Example: CNN/CBS poll two weeks ago. The poll was premised on the fact that under President Obama taxes to middle class families and small-to-medium businesses were cut by $288 Billion (a sizable chunk of the stimulus funds). When polled, though, 34% of the general public believed those very taxes had gone UP. More telling (since "taxes" is the Tea Party's signature issue), 64% of Tea Party people who were polled believe those very taxes had gone up. They were unaware that those taxes had been reduced. The poll concluded that people were basing their opinions on misinformation and/or personal bias. It's a very real, and very large, problem, even among "educated" people.

What does this tell us? As the letter writer indicates, members of the Tea Party are "educated." But what in the world does that imply? Not a whole lot. It doesn't make them informed. I believe the members of the Tea Party are, for the most part, nostalgic white Americans who are looking back over their shoulders. But they are still active citizens who have a right to express their opinions… and to vote. And they will make a political statement this November. I also believe they represent a candle whose light flickers brightly just before going out.

"Sanity" likens Press Secretary Gibbs to Josef Goebbels. What does that tell you about "educated" members of the Tea Party? Still, his/her vote counts. And it should. "Savannah" equates members of the Tea Party as "pro-American," as if to indicate others are not, and she writes about a "News Block on government run media." Not extremist in the least. Most telling - and representational - is when he/she writes: "Some of us find it deplorable to live in a nation that focuses on health care instead of of job creation." What a sweeping, misinformed, over-simplification of what is going on today in public discourse. I does tell me, though, that that is how "Savannah" looks out on the world, and that is how he/she limits the wide range of issues and concerns. What does that tell you about "educated" people.

"Not Surprised" writes: "The current president has spent more money and created more debt in 13 months than Bush did in eight years." The President inherited a $1.3 Trillion debt. He inherited the TARP bailout. He was handed two wars, both unpaid for (the first time in American history a president had waged two wars without raising revenue to pay for them), which is approaching $3 Trillion. He inherited two tax cuts to the wealthy (unpaid for), as well as the largest drug entitlement program in 40 years (unpaid for).$7 TRILLION. And "Not Surprised" (another educated person no doubt) says that President Obama has created more debt in 13 months than Bush did in eight years. And that kind of thinking is fairly representational. That is to say, they actually believe it. It's disappointing and unsettling because "Not Surprised" will vote based on that personal bias. And it is his/her right to do that.

Studio 5b writes: "Another victim of the mental disorder known as liberalism." Again, extreme points of view, with nothing more to offer than shallow platitudes.
Prove me wrong

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May 18, 2010
 
At least Jeffery has taken a short hiatus from his ususal namecalling...
Watch the election returns tonight. More incumbents are going down.
Dave

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May 18, 2010
 
William, Put on your new red dress...you'll feel much better.
mynameismud

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May 18, 2010
 
I can't argue with those on Bush running up the deficit, but that doesn't make it ok to add a couple trillion more in the blink of an eye. Does it? I have not read the book the writer has mentioned but the desciption feminist socialist scares the hell out me.
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May 18, 2010
 
Prove me wrong wrote:
At least Jeffery has taken a short hiatus from his ususal namecalling...
Watch the election returns tonight. More incumbents are going down.
Yes, incumbents are "going down." Incumbents are Republican and Democratic representatives. The elections are about throwing the bums out of office and voting in new bums, as we have done for centuries, because the "bums" reflect the level of judgment exercised by the voters.
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May 18, 2010
 
mynameismud wrote:
I can't argue with those on Bush running up the deficit, but that doesn't make it ok to add a couple trillion more in the blink of an eye. Does it? I have not read the book the writer has mentioned but the desciption feminist socialist scares the hell out me.
There is a qualitative difference between spending $3 Trillion on wars that only serve to increase threats against our national security... and investing in clean energy, education, tax relief for the middle class, and health care.
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May 18, 2010
 
Jeffrey Reel wrote:
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There is a qualitative difference between spending $3 Trillion on wars that only serve to increase threats against our national security... and investing in clean energy, education, tax relief for the middle class, and health care.
Your liberal world is totally delusional Jeffery. You are quite hopeless.
New political credo

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May 18, 2010
 
Repeat lies and disinformation and appeal to a sense of fear and trepidation. This is out of the Karl Rove playbook, is it new? I think it is not new but rather more effectively marketed. Scare Americans into believing any/or all of the following: Taxes are up, Deficit is up, Economy is headed for depression, etc,etc,etc. This political credo NEVER lets real facts be the platform and furthermore always repeat that the opposition lies. People all politicians engage in some degree of subterfuge. I hold onto the hope that the RIGHT person for the job will be elected by thinking voters as was the case of Scott Brown. Mr. Brown was elected because he ran a better campaign and the voters recognized that, not because some left or right crazy person made it so.
Truth

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May 18, 2010
 
"Not Surprised" writes: "The current president has spent more money and created more debt in 13 months than Bush did in eight years." The President inherited a $1.3 Trillion debt. He inherited the TARP bailout. He was handed two wars, both unpaid for (the first time in American history a president had waged two wars without raising revenue to pay for them), which is approaching $3 Trillion. He inherited two tax cuts to the wealthy (unpaid for), as well as the largest drug entitlement program in 40 years (unpaid for).$7 TRILLION. And "Not Surprised" (another educated person no doubt) says that President Obama has created more debt in 13 months than Bush did in eight years.

It's becoming obvious Jeffrey Reel simply doesn't read well. The writer,'Not Surprised' stated that Obama has run up a bigger deficit in 13 months than Bush II ran up in his first FOUR years.(Not eight). This statement is factually correct.

Mr. Reel references the 'TARP' bailout. Is he alluding to the second, more costly 'TARP' package created by Obama... the one that had to be passed immediately or we would all end up living in orange crates?

Mr. Reel references the 'two wars'. Surely he can't be talking about the war in Iraq that Obama has allowed to continue and most certainly not Afghanistan, the war Obama was going to end but instead expanded.

Jeffrey reveals something about himself even he doesn't know. only an unthinking liberal would write that Obama inherited two tax cuts for the wealthy that were 'unpaid for'. Setting aside his syntax limitations, only someone like Jeffrey believes tax CUTS have to be 'paid for'.

Additionally, it should be noted that, while I earn considerably less than $250,000, my taxes have not decreased at all under Obama.
Woody Allen

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May 18, 2010
 
"It would be good...if (Obama) could be dictator for a few years because he could do a lot of good things quickly," Allen is quoted as saying.

Allen is also said to have said:

I am pleased with Obama. I think he is brilliant. The Republican Party should get out of his way and stop trying to hurt him.

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