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jock

Campbellsville, KY

#1 Sep 3, 2008
A volunteer little league football coach was kicked out of his position as coach of the Steelers the other day and from what I understand it is all because of some parents complaining that he didn't know what he was doing. Is there more to this story?
Football98

Elizabethtown, KY

#2 Sep 4, 2008
Who was it?
Jan

Campbellsville, KY

#3 Sep 4, 2008
I don't know about the coach you are talking about but I do know the coach for the Colts in the youth league. My friend has a son that plays on that team and I went and watched pratice the other night and he was so hateful with the kids and they practiced for 3 hours, it was hot too. These are 8 and 9 year old boys, not high school kids. I thought they were they to learn to play not win win win. Maybe someone should look at who they get to coach these team.
DTC

Elizabethtown, KY

#4 Sep 4, 2008
There are always people who second guess a coach....There is no making everyone happy if you are in charge. I do not know what happened, and I hope that CCC did not let the coach go because of opinions.
mom of one

Elizabethtown, KY

#5 Sep 4, 2008
My son is also on one of these youth leagues. He is on the Bengals. Coach veach has smacked him and pushed him into a tackle. I do not think this is right. These kids are there to have fun and play not to win at any cost.
Home Boy

Campbellsville, KY

#6 Sep 4, 2008
mom of one wrote:
My son is also on one of these youth leagues. He is on the Bengals. Coach veach has smacked him and pushed him into a tackle. I do not think this is right. These kids are there to have fun and play not to win at any cost.
I would hope Mr. Veach wouldn't smack any of these kids. My son has played on 2 All-Star Football teams Mr. Veach has coached and I couldn't ask for a better coach & man.

If I had a problem with his techniques, I would go talk to him. He is very approachable, and will listen to your concearns.
u got to be joking

Buffalo, KY

#7 Sep 4, 2008
mom of one wrote:
My son is also on one of these youth leagues. He is on the Bengals. Coach veach has smacked him and pushed him into a tackle. I do not think this is right. These kids are there to have fun and play not to win at any cost.
seems like a good way for a coach to get his butt whipped,and he shouldnt be any where near kids.
DTC

Elizabethtown, KY

#8 Sep 4, 2008
Never put your hands on a kid unless you are patting him on the back......Coaches at this level take the competition way too seriously and forget to teach.........
Jan

Campbellsville, KY

#9 Sep 5, 2008
Seen the same things on the Colts. The coach has hit kids on the head and will push them into each other if he things they are not tackling hard enough.
Home Boy

Campbellsville, KY

#10 Sep 5, 2008
Who is the coach for the Colts?
What

Elizabethtown, KY

#11 Sep 5, 2008
Now this is a story that WHAS needs to investigate rather than the schools..........The treatment of youth in sports in general, not just here.
who

Campbellsville, KY

#12 Sep 5, 2008
Home Boy wrote:
Who is the coach for the Colts?
A. Beard
The Game

Campbellsville, KY

#13 Sep 5, 2008
I realize that some people haven't been around football a whole lot and I'm not saying what happened and what didn't and how it was intended but coaches smacking a kid on the helmet or on the shoulder pads to "wake them up" or even to congratulate them is not out of the ordinary at any level of football. When they are out of place sometimes a coach may grab their shoulder pads or jersey and move them to were they are supposed to be. I can't remember a coach that I played for that didn't do some of that and I always understood their reason for doing so but maybe at these younger age levels, coaches need to be instructed that these are not the things you do, because these young kids and their parents don't understand their motives. Before you start hollering about abuse though, remember that these kids do have helmets and shoulder pads on and what looks like a slap will not hurt them. Most coaches are doing the same things that their coaches did to them. I'm not saying whether its right or wrong but maybe this kind of thing needs to be looked in to when dealing with the first through fourth graders especially.
What

Elizabethtown, KY

#14 Sep 5, 2008
The Game wrote:
I realize that some people haven't been around football a whole lot and I'm not saying what happened and what didn't and how it was intended but coaches smacking a kid on the helmet or on the shoulder pads to "wake them up" or even to congratulate them is not out of the ordinary at any level of football. When they are out of place sometimes a coach may grab their shoulder pads or jersey and move them to were they are supposed to be. I can't remember a coach that I played for that didn't do some of that and I always understood their reason for doing so but maybe at these younger age levels, coaches need to be instructed that these are not the things you do, because these young kids and their parents don't understand their motives. Before you start hollering about abuse though, remember that these kids do have helmets and shoulder pads on and what looks like a slap will not hurt them. Most coaches are doing the same things that their coaches did to them. I'm not saying whether its right or wrong but maybe this kind of thing needs to be looked in to when dealing with the first through fourth graders especially.
I can understand a coach grabbing the face-mask and hitting the pads to get their attention, but only on the upper levels, not the beginning level. Do the coaches have to take any kind of a certification coarse?
The Game

Campbellsville, KY

#15 Sep 5, 2008
What wrote:
<quoted text>I can understand a coach grabbing the face-mask and hitting the pads to get their attention, but only on the upper levels, not the beginning level. Do the coaches have to take any kind of a certification coarse?
Not that I know of. Like I said, its tough for me to figure this out. I would've had to have been at the practices and see what actually happened in these two situations because intent has a whole lot to do with what goes on in these kinds of things. Hitting somebody upside the head in anger is diffrent from patting their shoulder pads or putting your hand on top of the helmet to get them to look at you when you're talking to them or slapping them on the back of the shoulder pads when they did a good job.
Home Boy

Campbellsville, KY

#16 Sep 5, 2008
What wrote:
<quoted text>Do the coaches have to take any kind of a certification coarse?
No, they do not. But that does sound like a good idea. I'm not saying that these did anything wrong or didn't, just saying the board should consider it. But, of course then someone on the board will ask who should pay for it, then potential coaches will say the League should pay for it, it will go back & fourth....blah, blah.

My son played for a pretty tough coach when he played for the Vikings in the Jr. League. The coach was Gary Houck. He was a loud-mouth and yelled alot, but, to his credit, in the middle of that yelling, he used words like 'Love' & 'Respect', but would be the first person to hug or congratulate a player if he deserved it and never laid a finger on my son, except tapping his helmet or shoulder-pads to congratulate him. I can only speck for myself, as that was my experience with him. And my experience with Coach Veach was pretty much the same thing.
FOOTBALL PARENT

Elizabethtown, KY

#17 Sep 5, 2008
I THINK ALOT OF YOU PEOPLE DON'T KNOW VERY MUCH ABOUT SPORTS. I HAVE BOYS THAT PLAY FOOTBALL & THATS JUST PART OF IT. IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME THAT YOUR KID MAY NOT BE CUT OUT FOR THIS SPORT. IT'S A ROUGH GAME FROM EVERY ANGLE. ITS ONLY GONNA GET WORSE AS THEY GET OLDER, SO THEY SHOULD PROBABLY JUST QUIT NOW OR GET USE IT. I THINK THE PARENTS ARE ACTUALLY THE ONES THAT JUST LIKE DRAMA, SOMETHING TO GRIPE ABOUT. AS FAR AS HOMER VEACH, HE IS A WONDERFUL COACH. MY SON HAD HIM & LEARNED MORE ABOUT FOOTBALL IN THAT ONE YEAR THAN EVER. HE IS TOUGH ON THE BOYS, BUT THEY ALL HAVE ALOT OF RESPECT FOR HIM. HE HAS WHAT IT TAKES TO GET 110% OUT OF EACH PLAYER & THATS THE KIND OF COACH ALOT OF THESE BOYS NEED. HE IS ONLY HELPING THEM IN THE LONG RUN. I DON'T THINK THAT COACHES SHOULD CUSS THE KIDS, BUT I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT HOMER OR ANY OF THE OTHERS WOULD DO THAT. IF YOU ASK ME THE BASEBALL COACHES ARE THE WORST ABOUT THAT KIND OF STUFF - SO THE PARENTS THAT HAVE A PROBLEM IN FOOTBALL - I JUST HOPE YOUR KIDS AREN'T GONNA PLAY BASEBALL OR YOUR REALLY GONNA BE UPSET.
mom of one

Nashville, TN

#18 Sep 5, 2008
The Game wrote:
I realize that some people haven't been around football a whole lot and I'm not saying what happened and what didn't and how it was intended but coaches smacking a kid on the helmet or on the shoulder pads to "wake them up" or even to congratulate them is not out of the ordinary at any level of football. When they are out of place sometimes a coach may grab their shoulder pads or jersey and move them to were they are supposed to be. I can't remember a coach that I played for that didn't do some of that and I always understood their reason for doing so but maybe at these younger age levels, coaches need to be instructed that these are not the things you do, because these young kids and their parents don't understand their motives. Before you start hollering about abuse though, remember that these kids do have helmets and shoulder pads on and what looks like a slap will not hurt them. Most coaches are doing the same things that their coaches did to them. I'm not saying whether its right or wrong but maybe this kind of thing needs to be looked in to when dealing with the first through fourth graders especially.
This was done WITHOUT the helmet and pads. I do not think this is right. He did this to at least 3 boys that I saw.
Home Boy

Campbellsville, KY

#19 Sep 5, 2008
My sons have never had a coach in any sport, so far, cuss at them, but they haven't made it to High School yet....lol....IMO, if the CCC Football League had more coaches like Mr. Veach, or for that matter, our local school systems, the Football would be played at a much higher level.
whatever

Elizabethtown, KY

#20 Sep 5, 2008
Home Boy you can remove your lips from homers butt at any point. You probably was not at the scrimage the other night when he pushed down one of his players. Were you ther or was you blinded by his greatness?

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