Jon

AOL

#511 Oct 11, 2012
Russ Bianchi called me today!!

He was responding to a question I asked on his web page regarding if he supported Howard Fisher's "Live Blood Analysis" Zija research as anything but pseudoscience.

He said he would look into it, and remove his March 13th 2012 blog citation of Fisher's research.

I told him of the investigation into Fisher's claimed medical degree. He said he would distance himself from Fisher if it proves that Fisher is a phony. He asked me to keep him informed and gave me his phone number.

I asked him DIRECTLY if he had any PhDs..... He said he had "an honorary PhD."

He talked my ear off on various and wondering drug, FDA, and other regulations. I kept pulling him back to the promotion so-called "scientific" research information to the public that any professional scientist would discount as pseudoscience. He listened attentively to me points; and seemed to voice the opionion of wanting to promote integrity in his reputation.

I pointed out the prress reports on his talks that state his "Dr." title and mutliple Phds. He said he was trying to have those postings taken down.

I came away appreciating his willingness to listen and address my points. Yet, I was not impressed with his technique of immediately trying to take me off-point, or obfuscate the discussion. I remain unconvinced that he might not be talking to me with ulterior motives (ie. was trying just to see what I was "about", and trying to get information from me so as to see how defend himself from educated criticism, or exposure).

Very interesting. I will wait to see if he acts with some degree of future integrity integrity, or was just plying a form of manipulation.

My main point (or test) was to see how he acted on the shady information I supplied to him on Fisher. I still have a hard time not believing that Bianchi knows Fisher well.....and was leading me on with fake naivity about his and Fisher's motives and modus operendi.

Since: Sep 12

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#512 Oct 15, 2012
Jon wrote:
Russ Bianchi called me today!!
He was responding to a question I asked on his web page regarding if he supported Howard Fisher's "Live Blood Analysis" Zija research as anything but pseudoscience.
He said he would look into it, and remove his March 13th 2012 blog citation of Fisher's research.
I told him of the investigation into Fisher's claimed medical degree. He said he would distance himself from Fisher if it proves that Fisher is a phony. He asked me to keep him informed and gave me his phone number.
I asked him DIRECTLY if he had any PhDs..... He said he had "an honorary PhD."
He talked my ear off on various and wondering drug, FDA, and other regulations. I kept pulling him back to the promotion so-called "scientific" research information to the public that any professional scientist would discount as pseudoscience. He listened attentively to me points; and seemed to voice the opionion of wanting to promote integrity in his reputation.
I pointed out the prress reports on his talks that state his "Dr." title and mutliple Phds. He said he was trying to have those postings taken down.
I came away appreciating his willingness to listen and address my points. Yet, I was not impressed with his technique of immediately trying to take me off-point, or obfuscate the discussion. I remain unconvinced that he might not be talking to me with ulterior motives (ie. was trying just to see what I was "about", and trying to get information from me so as to see how defend himself from educated criticism, or exposure).
Very interesting. I will wait to see if he acts with some degree of future integrity integrity, or was just plying a form of manipulation.
My main point (or test) was to see how he acted on the shady information I supplied to him on Fisher. I still have a hard time not believing that Bianchi knows Fisher well.....and was leading me on with fake naivity about his and Fisher's motives and modus operendi.
Hmmm? His MO? Russ is not naive - only an honorary PhD? Wow! Time will tell as we will fully understand if and what really develops. Please don't be impressed about having his phone umber - I think most distributors do including me.
BOB

Los Angeles, CA

#513 Oct 16, 2012
Yea Russ has shady credentials and you can't verify his past, but how can some of you talk shit about Moringa? It is scientifically the most nutrient rich superfood on the planet. Have you heard of Acai Berry? Pomegranates? Coconut water? Guess what jerky, they're all superfoods and Moringa comes out on top. Open a fucking book.

Since: Sep 12

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#514 Oct 17, 2012
BOB wrote:
Yea Russ has shady credentials and you can't verify his past, but how can some of you talk shit about Moringa? It is scientifically the most nutrient rich superfood on the planet. Have you heard of Acai Berry? Pomegranates? Coconut water? Guess what jerky, they're all superfoods and Moringa comes out on top. Open a fucking book.
Excuse me? You need to do an ounce of research before you write and let the world know that your not in the know. The Miracle Tree known as the Moringa is not in question regarding the efficacy of this nutrient rich plant. Zija is in question - long term use of the diet product line is in question - the shadiness of Russ is in question.
So Mr Jerky - as it takes one to identify one - investigate what's been written before you open your mouth...and by the way...the pericarp of the Mangosteen is more powerful from a nutritional standpoint than the miracle tree.....so tell me when you consume Zija, how many mg of the moringa are you geting?
Zija Supporter

Memphis, TN

#515 Oct 17, 2012
I have taken Zija and sold it for quite some time and I love it. I make around $1000.00 extra a month while putting an hour or two a day into it at most. You mean to tell me you have to put forth effort to make money off it? Oh my America, and no one made any of you take it or sell it, people bitch about everything, its really ridiculous like anyone forced any of you to partake.

Since: Sep 12

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#516 Oct 17, 2012
Zija Supporter wrote:
I have taken Zija and sold it for quite some time and I love it. I make around $1000.00 extra a month while putting an hour or two a day into it at most. You mean to tell me you have to put forth effort to make money off it? Oh my America, and no one made any of you take it or sell it, people bitch about everything, its really ridiculous like anyone forced any of you to partake.
Good for you! My Zija check fluctuates...Averaging about $1,300.00 per week...I am not working it as I did 3 years ago...why? Too many issues...my concern is long term use of diet products. I found different company where all of my effort is placed. Just like GMO...people want too know.
Susie

Fort Wayne, IN

#517 Oct 17, 2012
I really appreciate the comments from Jon and Justtruthplease.

These things are important to know.
Bob, I understand that you like the product but when a man tells the kind of lies Mr.Bianchi does about himself and the stories were crazy wild, there is cause for concern as to his product.

People with health issues have to know certain things and it is impossible to verify the contents of the Zija products. We all agree that Moringa itself is valid.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#518 Oct 17, 2012
Susie wrote:
I really appreciate the comments from Jon and Justtruthplease.
These things are important to know.
Bob, I understand that you like the product but when a man tells the kind of lies Mr.Bianchi does about himself and the stories were crazy wild, there is cause for concern as to his product.
People with health issues have to know certain things and it is impossible to verify the contents of the Zija products. We all agree that Moringa itself is valid.
You hit the nail on the head. Our society is desperate for the silver bullet that addresses health and wellness... not a simple task and nutritional supplementation is only a small part to achieve those goals.
As for mystery Russ....that too...will come out in the wash.
Big D Woods

Huntsville, AL

#519 Oct 17, 2012
hmm wrote:
Just another version of the whole AMWAY scam!
Overpriced stuff with overstuffed promises!
Obviously you haven't actually talked to anyone or heard any real information about this product or the opportunity. I started drinking the smart mix and the mix+, one each a day and I feel absolutely wonderful and have stopped taking hi blood pressure Meds, high cholesterol Meds and depression Meds. I have never felt so good in years. I have lost 10 lbs in two weeks without trying, I work to much and don't diet or excercize. I myself have been making money since I started as a distributor and so has my boss I work with at the Ambulance service. And if you bashers really researched this you would know that they never once say you will become a millionaire. Only that there is an opportunity available if you want to go after it. Like the other guy said don't bash it if you haven't tried it. If your not good at marketing don't try to sell it. If you tried this for one month you would see the difference. If you were good at marketing and tried this for a month you would see the truth.
YOU GET WHAT YOU PUT INTO IT!!!
If you got into this and didn't follow directions and didn't put your heart into it then yes you probably did lose your money and quite.
But don't Shit on other people's dreams if they are capable to accomplish then as I was.
Big D Woods

Huntsville, AL

#520 Oct 17, 2012
BOB wrote:
Yea Russ has shady credentials and you can't verify his past, but how can some of you talk shit about Moringa? It is scientifically the most nutrient rich superfood on the planet. Have you heard of Acai Berry? Pomegranates? Coconut water? Guess what jerky, they're all superfoods and Moringa comes out on top. Open a fucking book.
Thank you BOB!!! It's about time someone said it.
truth

Greenbrier, AR

#521 Oct 18, 2012
yes this does work if taken right!

Since: Sep 12

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#522 Oct 18, 2012
Big D Woods wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you BOB!!! It's about time someone said it.
He said what? There has not been any comment to the efficacy of the Moringa...it's the "tree of Life" - but did you know that there's a product called Xango, made from the pericarp of the mangosteen...I would it is equally as powerful or more so.

The moringa is nutrient rich....in spite of the fact I have a check with Zija - I do not use the product line. I am too worried about the hocus pocus of Russ. I buy my moringa direct from a grower and I know just how much I am consuming unlike Zija. My autoship? I give it away monthly....That's the beauty of MLM....
Neverland

Rineyville, KY

#523 Oct 22, 2012
wtf
rebecca m

Frankfort, KY

#524 Oct 25, 2012
Val prosak wrote:
I have tried the product and it seeded up my metabolism so much that I could not sleep.. it did get me losing weight very fast, but i quit taking it cause i was so dam hopped up and jittery.. don't know whats in it.. don't want to sell it.. but whatever its is you can bet it isn't natural.. I say its laced with some kind of speed....
Hi Val...I have been taking zija's smart mix for over 30 days...it gave me a lot of energy and I was having trouble sleeping through the night but would wake up feeling refreshed. Talked to my nurse friend who is also taking zija products and we discovered that for me it's best to take half in the am on an empty stomach and the other half at lunch on an empty stomach...no later than 2pm...I was taking it too late in the day (and taking it before 2pm helped a lot) Maybe you could try that. I definitely believe in moringa and the company of Zija. People are going to have something bad to say about anything. I've tried this stuff seen amazing results my body feels great...i crave healthy foods...anything with a bunch of crap in it isn't going to make you feel better and make you crave veggies fruit and good stuff. Everyone has their opinion but I'm convinced and no one could convince me otherwise.:) Blessings
vcac

Charlotte, NC

#525 Oct 25, 2012
fdaa
Unreal

United States

#526 Oct 26, 2012
God you zija people are idiots. I have some magic rocks from my driveway that cure restless leg syndrome. Any takers?
Jon

AOL

#527 Oct 26, 2012
Fresh news on the ZIJA front:
Dr. Howard W. Fisher, who is currently being investigated by his chiropractic board for not verifying his claimed medical degree, claims in his videos that his "research" into various products (ZIJA, BioPro, GIA Wellness/MRET) that he is not part of these companies and has no vested interests to slant his views/research. Thus he claimes to be an independant and third-party scientific researcher...
Well, guess who's name was drawn at the ZIJA Convention last week to win A FRIGGIN MERCEDES BENZ!!! You guessed it....little old 'independant' researcher Howard W. Fisher!!
What are the odds?
Well, this sure is a new way to pay someone off "Under the Table", or "Over the Transome", or out-in-the-open, but off the record ;-)
banjoman

Manchester, TN

#528 Oct 27, 2012
awake wrote:
it can harm you. google all the additives in the pills and the tea . a very very bad dangerous mix.do your homework.
Hmmmm! I have asked my doctor about Zija and his reply was it can't hurt you. It may help. He has patients that take it and have no complaints.
bionicwoman

Nashville, TN

#529 Oct 27, 2012
First, I am a Zija distributor. I have testimonials where the product has worked tremendously. I also have scientific and personal research data on my side. There are many websites that offer insight into Moringa and all the Zija lines. If your parents are in Zija, it is their choice to do so. Obviously they have found good reason to continue. Since they are adults and it is THEIR money and not yours, THEIR decision and not yours, you should respectfully stand down and allow them to buy what works for them. They are big people now and can make up their own minds without your help.

Second, as for the money, some people sell better than others. Some have a stronger base and have more connections. I am sorry your parents are not as successful as you think they should be, but perhaps just making enough to get the product free is all they want. As for me? I am making bank and so are a number of people in my line. Not driving the Mercedes yet, but it looks promising. I have only been doing this for three months.

Your comment about it being successful in mainly Hillbilly Land is inaccurate. Perhaps if you do some research on the product, tour their Salt Lake City facility, talk to the people that have had amazing wellness as well as weight loss in it, and basically do your homework before going onto a public forum, you might have a different opinion. It is now an international product that has now grown to Japan, Australia, Canada as well as a host of other countries.

Finally, your comments regarding hillbillies is highly offensive to me and to all who have grown up or even currently live in the South-no matter if it is a large southern metropolis as I live in now, or a small community like the one I grew up in. Yes, call me a Hillbilly, but I have two college degrees + 12 hours toward my doctorate. You reference Hillbillies as ignorant. I will point out to you that most of the people with whom I am connected with Zija hold multiple college degrees and are highly educated.(most of us attended colleges and universities in the South but none were dubbed Hillbilly U.) I find your use of the term offensive to all of us who are blessed enough to live here in God's Country-the wonderful South. I am proud to be a southerner as well as a Zija distributor- both groups tend to be known as persons who help others. There are lessons for you to learn with this.
Positive Polly

Fort Knox, KY

#530 Oct 27, 2012
justtruthplease wrote:
On more than one point I disagree. I've had great expectations on gaining great wealth in all my business endeavors and have exceeded those expectations. Here's the deal with the colon cancer deal as you put it...it is a she and not a he...under the age of 40 with no family history.....been on Zija for 4 years (so, where's the power in the product)???? I am Miss factual and I have a models figure and I also earn a 6 figure per year income in MLM...and I never said that the smart mix or the old XM3 didn't work for me - never said that at all and I don't have a loss quite frankly. Obviously, you have not built a check with the company....all I said was what if long term use was hazardous to a person's health....I pray this gal is fine...she has 3 young children.
Im just thinking here...but anyone can tell justtruthplease has a passion for making Zija look bad. Could it be because she is in another MLM company (read above) and needs Zija to look bad so she can promote her new product? To much competition. Just a thought.

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