Trial date vacated in Arizona sweat l...

Trial date vacated in Arizona sweat lodge deaths case

There are 8 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 15, 2010, titled Trial date vacated in Arizona sweat lodge deaths case. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The trial for a motivational speaker charged in the deaths of three people following a sweat lodge ceremony he led in Arizona won't begin next month as planned.

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P T Bull

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Jul 15, 2010
Aside from satisfying an igorant mob lust for vengeance, I still have not seen any basis for this going past a negligence issue--though it could be argued that those who enter a sweat lodge do so at their own risk, as long as they can leave when they want.

Might be one reason the trial is not moving forward--no case.
Le Dumbo

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Jul 15, 2010
Jan Brewer's fault!!

Since: Jul 10

Maple Plain, MN

#3 Jul 15, 2010
Agree. You had adults who paid at least 5-10k to participate in this sweat lodge crap. They did at their own risk and knowledge. This guy didn't kill them, he was a businessman who took advantage of the market of people who had no common sense. Happens all the time.
P T Bull

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Jul 15, 2010
citylights wrote:
Agree. You had adults who paid at least 5-10k to participate in this sweat lodge crap. They did at their own risk and knowledge. This guy didn't kill them, he was a businessman who took advantage of the market of people who had no common sense. Happens all the time.

Has it been determined that he did anything wrong or negligent to cause their death other than providing them with a very warm room to visit? That element of the case has been glossed over in the dozens of articles I have read about this.

The media loves this case, but they sure can't be bothered to delve below the surface on it.
James

Honolulu, HI

#5 Jul 17, 2010
The Sedona Warrior Workshop was ONLY for honorable people who take responsibility for their actions. If you are a dishonorable person who refuses to take responsibility for your actions you had NO BUSINESS being at that workshop. You took an oath IN WRITING promising to take full responsibility for your actions at that workshop. You made a legal vow! If you are a 'pity me' person and you are certain your miserable lives are all someone else's fault you had no business being at that Warrior Workshop. That Sedona event was a veritable Spirit 'Boot Camp' for the honorable who keep their promises.

If you break your vow it will sabotage the rest of your lives. Whatever money you may get by breaking your vow will turn against you and you can bet it all that you won't enjoy it. The dishonorable don't deserve to enjoy the money they get by being dishonorable. YOU KNOW IN YOUR HEARTS THIS IS TRUE!
Mary

United States

#6 Jul 21, 2010
I truly hope the people spouting off here are simply ignorant... rather than cruel.

If you read the many, many eyewitness reports, you will find that James Ray knew people were getting sick and even losing consciousness. James Ray not only refused to offer help to these people, James Ray also tried to stop others from helping these people. James Ray left unconscious people in the very environment which caused their loss of consciousness. And this wasn't the first time people were injured and/or killed in James Ray's psychotic human experiments.

But this time, three people died because James Ray knowingly and willfully put them in a dangerous situation, and when they could no longer help themselves, James Ray interfered in efforts to provide life-saving medical care for the people who needed it, who he knew needed it.

Yes, that is a crime.
Its your choice

Cottage Grove, MN

#7 Jul 21, 2010
Mary wrote:
I truly hope the people spouting off here are simply ignorant... rather than cruel.
If you read the many, many eyewitness reports, you will find that James Ray knew people were getting sick and even losing consciousness. James Ray not only refused to offer help to these people, James Ray also tried to stop others from helping these people. James Ray left unconscious people in the very environment which caused their loss of consciousness. And this wasn't the first time people were injured and/or killed in James Ray's psychotic human experiments.
But this time, three people died because James Ray knowingly and willfully put them in a dangerous situation, and when they could no longer help themselves, James Ray interfered in efforts to provide life-saving medical care for the people who needed it, who he knew needed it.
Yes, that is a crime.
If ya cant take the ***** heat get out of the kitchen!
trolls

Hugo, MN

#8 Jul 21, 2010
James wrote:
The Sedona Warrior Workshop was ONLY for honorable people who take responsibility for their actions. If you are a dishonorable person who refuses to take responsibility for your actions you had NO BUSINESS being at that workshop. You took an oath IN WRITING promising to take full responsibility for your actions at that workshop. You made a legal vow! If you are a 'pity me' person and you are certain your miserable lives are all someone else's fault you had no business being at that Warrior Workshop. That Sedona event was a veritable Spirit 'Boot Camp' for the honorable who keep their promises.
If you break your vow it will sabotage the rest of your lives. Whatever money you may get by breaking your vow will turn against you and you can bet it all that you won't enjoy it. The dishonorable don't deserve to enjoy the money they get by being dishonorable. YOU KNOW IN YOUR HEARTS THIS IS TRUE!
You wrote this like you were there. Which would explain the stupidity of the post.

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