3rd recruit dies during basic at Fort Jackson basic training

[drake]

Airborne calvary wrote:

I see your trying to be a colonel now honestly when is the lies gonna stop

I see that you can't answer the questions. You are spinning the subject slack jaw. Show us where your cousin died of H1N1. Show proof of any soldier dying due to the Army's standards. I already posted the State of SC medical examiners report that saids differnt.

Please provide the answers with the facts backing up my questions. You keep avoiding it. Why is that slack jaw?

Oh...you are a DS on the trail. The best DS are at basic training locations. So, I guess you have a bunch of slack jaw AIT students or maybe you aren't a drill SGT.

So what Airborne unit was you in KS? LOL! Sorry...NO AIRBORNE units there. Try again liar!

[Airborne calvary]

Never said I was in an airborne unit in Kansas I got moved to an undeployable unit because actually went to combat and got wounded and I was a ds at ft sill when in Kansas I also trained air assault and in fact I'm deploying around next November with the big red 1 I don't care about ur sc report quit saying u work for the pentagon cause everyone knows your a fake otherwise you would state your rank and name and yes you could be court martialed then you might have to do some dirty work you wrinkly sack of scum polluting my army I don't need to show you a report I will take my size 11 boot and stick in that stretched a hole hooah!! And airborne, Calvary, 1st division infantry were all around before rangers therefore they lead the way in my book that's how the cadence we call go to so what granpa I knock your colustomy bag in the dirt hooah!! I don't know everything and you obviously don't niether don't come to fort Riley or fort sill and deffinatly hope you are not near me in afgan cause I will knock you on your wrinkly stretched a hole hooah-- airborne leads the way. Big red1 lead the chairborne gets thrown in the way of an enemy grenade hooah!!!-ds Johnson

[Cafe de La Paix]

CharlieO wrote:

Get real Drake. My son is at Ft. Jackson right now ( not fat and in good shape). Some of the crap these kids are put through in this heat is stupid. I was in the military 20 yrs and of course there were times I put my life on the line BUT NOT WHEN I AM A SNOT NOSED KID IN BASIC. I bet you haven't had a kid through this yet are you wouldn't be such a big talker.

Hold your horses mister!! If you're the father of a son, or daughter you have absolutely NO reason to believe that WE will believe YOU! Come on, moms and dads are just that...moms and dads! Heaven forbid if my mother or father were to say that: "I was in the military and that I was fat."......good golley....oh my, drop that!
Let me tell you a fact mister! The other day a guy pulled up into a convenience store and seeing his hair short and wearing a t-shirt with USMC splashed across his chest, it was easy to assume that he was in the military. However, and even though, he had on layers of clothing, you could still see he was much overweight to be in the military. He said he was!
The sad thing is that the FMF is recruiting young men and women who are overweight at an unprecedented rate, and actually begging them to join. These tactics from recruiters only serve them, and promotion warrants equal more $$$ money $$$-Bingo!And so we do have a bunch of unhealthy Americans running the show that's suppose to be run by real, strong and healthy men, not silly sissies that need a helping hand from good 'ole daddy', everytime they're in a bind!
In short, what we have is indeed way too many arrogant, sissy, fat, overweight cowards who cry at the drop of a hat, or just because they can't have 'their music' loud enough; or just because they were sent TAD; or because they want to see 'mommie an daddie' for Christmas, or Thanksgiving.....yep, a bunch of crybabies, who are actually bringing the moral down, and making our government military look like a JOKE.......
Stop it! Quit, stop pussy-footin' around daddy, we just can't believe you....I'm sure you'd be the first one to go and don on HIS uniform and take his place because YOU are so accostomed to HELPING YOUR POOR CHILD, everytime he needs you. You havn't allowed HIM to grow up and be a real man. Stop it!

[drake]

Airborne calvary wrote:

Never said I was in an airborne unit in Kansas I got moved to an undeployable unit because actually went to combat and got wounded and I was a ds at ft sill when in Kansas I also trained air assault and in fact I'm deploying around next November with the big red 1 I don't care about ur sc report quit saying u work for the pentagon cause everyone knows your a fake otherwise you would state your rank and name and yes you could be court martialed then you might have to do some dirty work you wrinkly sack of scum polluting my army I don't need to show you a report I will take my size 11 boot and stick in that stretched a hole hooah!! And airborne, Calvary, 1st division infantry were all around before rangers therefore they lead the way in my book that's how the cadence we call go to so what granpa I knock your colustomy bag in the dirt hooah!! I don't know everything and you obviously don't niether don't come to fort Riley or fort sill and deffinatly hope you are not near me in afgan cause I will knock you on your wrinkly stretched a hole hooah-- airborne leads the way. Big red1 lead the chairborne gets thrown in the way of an enemy grenade hooah!!!-ds Johnson

Slack Jaw...you can now stop pretending you are Airborne. You are probably some little desk clerk. Now its Big Red lead the way. Do you even know the motto of Big Red 1? Most likely not...you have yet to answer the questions.

Honestly...you soundl like some crackhead. You only exposed that you are NOT airborne. Who cares who you hung around and what your thoughts are. Provide some facts. You have yet to provide facts about you cousin that you claimed died at FT. Jackson. I provded the facts and you got busted. You got busted on the Airborne when you started talking about combat jumps. You didn't even know the difference between combat jumps and unit training jumps. You have yet to tell us what unit have jump.

Whatever weed you are smoking you need to take it back because you got ripped off. Why don't you answer the questions loser??

[drake]

Airborne calvary wrote:

Never said I was in an airborne unit in Kansas I got moved to an undeployable unit because actually went to combat and got wounded and I was a ds at ft sill when in Kansas I also trained air assault and in fact I'm deploying around next November with the big red 1 I don't care about ur sc report quit saying u work for the pentagon cause everyone knows your a fake otherwise you would state your rank and name and yes you could be court martialed then you might have to do some dirty work you wrinkly sack of scum polluting my army I don't need to show you a report I will take my size 11 boot and stick in that stretched a hole hooah!! And airborne, Calvary, 1st division infantry were all around before rangers therefore they lead the way in my book that's how the cadence we call go to so what granpa I knock your colustomy bag in the dirt hooah!! I don't know everything and you obviously don't niether don't come to fort Riley or fort sill and deffinatly hope you are not near me in afgan cause I will knock you on your wrinkly stretched a hole hooah-- airborne leads the way. Big red1 lead the chairborne gets thrown in the way of an enemy grenade hooah!!!-ds Johnson

Here are the questions again. What wrong Mr. hooah...don't have the answers? Slow your roll...you couldn't kick yourself out of your wet dreams. I would would kick your azz one handed and help you up to sign your discharge papers. You are more than welcome to come visit me.

Stick to what you know...and that is only things you wish you knew. The fact is you know nothing about Airborne operations, and never jump in your life. Now you care claiming to be a Drill SGT. Drill SGT of what...a weak azz AIT company??? Here are the questions again...don't run now:

You keep claiming something about your cousin and not prove that your cousin died from the H1N1 at Fort Jackson. We have waited for you to provide proof...but of course you are spewing nothing more than sh-t.

Oh...once again, Army Ranger Motto is: Rangers lead the way. But of course you wouldn't know anything about that because you don't have the balls to be a Ranger.

Slack Jaw, why don't you answer these questions and provide some facts. We can't go by what you say because I have busted you out to many times.

-Where are the two Airborne Locations:(Excluding Fort Benning) That is a TRADOC location. You do know what TRADOC is right? If you are a DS as you claim you should know (smile).

-Show proof of the soldier you claim died of H1N1. I provided you the report.

-Show where specifically where an officer can be deomoted as you claim? The answer is: Officers are not demoted.

-Here is the Ranger Motto: Rangers Lead the Way
http://www.experiencefestival.com/us_army_ran ... Where is your proof of Airborne Motto leads the way? You don't even know it and you are a DS? No wonder why our young soldiers come out clueless. Its drills SGT like you that are retarded and know nothing.

-Please show me (quoting) what paragraph that specifically states I can't post. I am really waiting for that one.

Son...you have been busted. You are probably no more that a 71L admin clerk. LOL! Get a life and get to typing.

[Airborne calvary]

If you want to go come test me I'm more than willing to "show you some motivation" and by the way 1st division motto is no mission too difficult no sacrafice to great hooah! Furthermore you don't know a thing about really from what I can tell I would love for you to come test me knuclehead I will humiliate u and the make u my training btch. U ask any enlisted active duty who they respect more hooah!!! Do it officer scum I will beat that azz at ANY challenge again I have stated all I need to your probally some big o computer nerd acne and all hooah!! Any one can tell honestly you have nothing but what your computer screen reads so that's that got it trackin (trackin drill sargeant) AIRBORNE leads the way hooah and also I know fort Jackson really well went to basic and ds school there as for my cuzzin she was my cuzzin believe it or not you old sack of sht

[Airborne calvary]

I don't have to post proof but trust me read your regs on public view read them It specifacly points it out to e-8 and above including officers which u have violated as got tradoc there is a lot like 33 on like 13 diffrent posts it's not worth the time to post each one no I'm not a ait ds basic training ds knucklehead I don't know a hundred percent on all tradoc locations just benning were I went and there cq at fort monroe so stuff it hooah!-ds Johnson

[drake]

Airborne calvary wrote:

If you want to go come test me I'm more than willing to "show you some motivation" and by the way 1st division motto is no mission too difficult no sacrafice to great hooah! Furthermore you don't know a thing about really from what I can tell I would love for you to come test me knuclehead I will humiliate u and the make u my training btch. U ask any enlisted active duty who they respect more hooah!!! Do it officer scum I will beat that azz at ANY challenge again I have stated all I need to your probally some big o computer nerd acne and all hooah!! Any one can tell honestly you have nothing but what your computer screen reads so that's that got it trackin (trackin drill sargeant) AIRBORNE leads the way hooah and also I know fort Jackson really well went to basic and ds school there as for my cuzzin she was my cuzzin believe it or not you old sack of sht

Slack Jaw...anyone can Google a Army motto.

Why do you avoid the questions??? You keep avoiding the questions. Do I need to post it again for you since you can't read. You still haven't answer the question about combat jumps. You don't even know the difference between combat jumps and training jumps. The bottom line you have 22 training jumps and no combat jumps. That is what you meant to post. Why not answer the questions?? And if your CUZZIN died of the HiN1 why don't you provide the fact that shows that. The State Medical Examiner said different. Come on man...stop your lying slack jaw.

[drake]

Airborne calvary wrote:

I don't have to post proof but trust me read your regs on public view read them It specifacly points it out to e-8 and above including officers which u have violated as got tradoc there is a lot like 33 on like 13 diffrent posts it's not worth the time to post each one no I'm not a ait ds basic training ds knucklehead I don't know a hundred percent on all tradoc locations just benning were I went and there cq at fort monroe so stuff it hooah!-ds Johnson

So in other words...you don't know. NOPE...officers aren't demoted. If an officer is demoted he/she is put out. Second, what I am posting is legal...nothing illegal what I am doing...but of course you can't provide the exact paragraph line that states that. Maybe you should stay in your lane as a young NCO.
Oh yeah...there are a lot of TRADOC locations, but the best Drill SGT are put at Basic Training sites. And from your location, its clear you aren't ad Basic training location. In other words you are not the best.

[drake]

Airborne calvary wrote:

If you want to go come test me I'm more than willing to "show you some motivation" and by the way 1st division motto is no mission too difficult no sacrafice to great hooah! Furthermore you don't know a thing about really from what I can tell I would love for you to come test me knuclehead I will humiliate u and the make u my training btch. U ask any enlisted active duty who they respect more hooah!!! Do it officer scum I will beat that azz at ANY challenge again I have stated all I need to your probally some big o computer nerd acne and all hooah!! Any one can tell honestly you have nothing but what your computer screen reads so that's that got it trackin (trackin drill sargeant) AIRBORNE leads the way hooah and also I know fort Jackson really well went to basic and ds school there as for my cuzzin she was my cuzzin believe it or not you old sack of sht

The problem is you haven't stated nothing but lies with no facts to back you up. If you CUZZIN died, I of H1N1 the SC newspaper or Army times would have mentioned it as a follow up. NO follow up done. So what is your excuse now CUZZIN?

Airborne leads the way...what a JOKE. Its clear you are a young slack jaw trying to impress people. I busted you out and now you b-tching out.

How about answer the questions? Where are the two Airborne locations in the Army (excluding Fort Benning)? You have had all week to google that slack jaw.

[Airborne calvary]

I already said I'm not worried about where the other airborne schools are need your glasses checked obviously I went to benning so the others I don't care about obviously you don't read I am a bct ds at ft. Sill hooah I'm not gonna post my family stuff on here gramps we obviously have very diffrent outlooks on a lot you have whatever world your in and that's good for you but I'm ACTIVE DUTY which means I don't live in a civilian world but maybe 1 month out of the year. My service record stands for yourself I have never met some one especially who serves supposedly like you I could waste my time showing you whatever proof I need to I'm not gonna do that this is taking to much time up and unlike you I work for my pay so fck off btch airborne leads the way -DS Johnson

[Airborne calvary]

I'm sorry everyone I have showed you how to not behave.as an nco. Especially as a DS the proper way to handle this situation is to take it on the chin and say yes sir I just spent three hours getting chewed out by my company comander for the way I have presented myself not in a leadership kinda way to drake if you truly are an officer in my beloved army then.... Sorry sir thanks to my behavior I have "volentered" to deploy in march instead of next November to reclaim my dignity hooah to all people reading this especially if your in my beloved army watch how you present yourself cause you never know who is reading hooah so again I'm sorry hopefully how I have presented myself don't discourage future soldiers or parents of soldiers hooah remember though some DS do care about each and every private so again sorry hooah

[GIPACCG]

Airborne calvary wrote:

I'm sorry everyone I have showed you how to not behave.as an nco. Especially as a DS the proper way to handle this situation is to take it on the chin and say yes sir I just spent three hours getting chewed out by my company comander for the way I have presented myself not in a leadership kinda way to drake if you truly are an officer in my beloved army then.... Sorry sir thanks to my behavior I have "volentered" to deploy in march instead of next November to reclaim my dignity hooah to all people reading this especially if your in my beloved army watch how you present yourself cause you never know who is reading hooah so again I'm sorry hopefully how I have presented myself don't discourage future soldiers or parents of soldiers hooah remember though some DS do care about each and every private so again sorry hooah

Hats off to you Airborne. Way to go! You will have to overlook Drake he has a complex. Peter Panty.

[drake]

GIPACCG wrote:

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Hats off to you Airborne. Way to go! You will have to overlook Drake he has a complex. Peter Panty.

Are you the same guy that his daddy is going to jail for an investment fraud?

[drake]

Airborne calvary wrote:

I already said I'm not worried about where the other airborne schools are need your glasses checked obviously I went to benning so the others I don't care about obviously you don't read I am a bct ds at ft. Sill hooah I'm not gonna post my family stuff on here gramps we obviously have very diffrent outlooks on a lot you have whatever world your in and that's good for you but I'm ACTIVE DUTY which means I don't live in a civilian world but maybe 1 month out of the year. My service record stands for yourself I have never met some one especially who serves supposedly like you I could waste my time showing you whatever proof I need to I'm not gonna do that this is taking to much time up and unlike you I work for my pay so fck off btch airborne leads the way -DS Johnson

Hey slack jaw...no one ask about the other AIRBORNE school. I ask do you know where the two locations of airborne operations excluding FORT BENNING. There are only two bases in the Army. If YOU HAD JUMPED you would of know that answer but of course you have been busted for lying again.

You can't answer any of the questions because your aren't in the Army as you claim. You couldn't even answer the question about what you claimed of your CUZZIN dying of H1N1 in basic training. The fact is you made it all up and I called you to the carpet. Then you tried the tactic of showing as if you knew something by claiming that officer are demoted and remained on in the military. I gave you the facts and you could back it up. Then you claimed that me posting coud get me in trouble with UCMJ but you can't provide the SPECIFIC paragraph line. I gave you the facts and then you went into left field with something else. Now you claim to be a DS. If you are a DS this explains why are soldiers are so soft and weak today because of WEAK NCO's like yourself. Now go back to your Walmart night stock boy job and stop dreaming of what you which you could be.

RANGER LEAD THE WAY....ALL THE WAY!

[drake]

Airborne calvary wrote:

I'm sorry everyone I have showed you how to not behave.as an nco. Especially as a DS the proper way to handle this situation is to take it on the chin and say yes sir I just spent three hours getting chewed out by my company comander for the way I have presented myself not in a leadership kinda way to drake if you truly are an officer in my beloved army then.... Sorry sir thanks to my behavior I have "volentered" to deploy in march instead of next November to reclaim my dignity hooah to all people reading this especially if your in my beloved army watch how you present yourself cause you never know who is reading hooah so again I'm sorry hopefully how I have presented myself don't discourage future soldiers or parents of soldiers hooah remember though some DS do care about each and every private so again sorry hooah

Oh...I am a truly and officer. As I mentioned we can exchange e-mails on AKO. If you are in the Army or retired you know what an AKO e-mail address is.

If you had read my previous postings you would of saw that I never said anything negative about the soldiers that dieded at FT Jackson. What I did comment on is the way parents and school systems have failed to take physcial fitness seriously. If you also are a DS you would of seen the sizes of young adults and the problems recruiters are having with young adults being over weight or physcially out of shape not being able to meet the standards of the Army which are not very difficult at all.

Anyway...if you are in the Army good luck with your deployment.

Hooah!

[Airborne calvary]

Understood sir tea I have seen my share of umm... Questionable weight issues in bct how a 6 foot 260 pnd private made it thru meps still supeises me I've had a fare of slightly over weight pvts but but most do ok... With the exception of food bieng snuck constantly in my barracks. They pay for it when I pt them for about two hours.I'm leaving for fort Irwin for about 7 weeks for ftx After this cycle about a week from today hooah-ds johnson

[drake]

Airborne calvary wrote:

Understood sir tea I have seen my share of umm... Questionable weight issues in bct how a 6 foot 260 pnd private made it thru meps still supeises me I've had a fare of slightly over weight pvts but but most do ok... With the exception of food bieng snuck constantly in my barracks. They pay for it when I pt them for about two hours.I'm leaving for fort Irwin for about 7 weeks for ftx After this cycle about a week from today hooah-ds johnson

That was my only point. My point wasn't the deaths. I was speaking on several issues one in particular with soldiers that can't get in due to their body fat/weight. I posted an article some time ago from the Pentagon that discussed the over weight issues and the standards that you enlisted failed to me. When I was a BN CDR, and prior to 9/11 I saw a lot of soldiers packets come across my desk for over weight soldiers or failing PT test. Yes, not everyone can run 2-miles fast or do a lot of push ups but the range can be made with little excrise expecially if someone is 17 years old. To this day I still maintain an Airborne standard for PT: 50 Push ups, 50 situps, and run the two mile within 15:30. Those standards a little above average for a 17-24 years old but not hard. The point to take away is, if a soldier between 17-24 is having problem now, imagine what their problems will be at 35-40 years old. Most of these kids today eat a lot of processed foods, that have a lot of sodium and things that are not natural. Even the Army has turned to a lot processed foods. My other point to this thread is parents to take better care of their children when it comes to feeding and excrising.

Back to the soldiers the soldiers that died, a couple of the soldiers had a toxicology report done on them due to possible weight supplements which they found two soldiers had in their system but could not tie the supplements to their deaths. However, I do believe supplements can cause problems with people if not taken right. In my last deployment (2007-2008) two soldiers in my Brigade died of heart failure due to supplements. One of the soldiers which was a CSM 44 years old already had heart disease and new it was taking that crap.

I have served three time is Irag...never in Afghan. Rumor here I will in heading back to Division as a Operations Officer for Division.

Good luck on your combat tour!

[Airborne calvary]

Thank you sir this is my 5th tour since 2002 I was dreading fort Irwin cause I hate ca born and raised there but horible hooah!! It's gonna be pretty good to be gung ho again I wonder if I will be there with any highspeed low drags from my bct units hooah!!- ds Johnson

[drake]

Airborne calvary wrote:

Thank you sir this is my 5th tour since 2002 I was dreading fort Irwin cause I hate ca born and raised there but horible hooah!! It's gonna be pretty good to be gung ho again I wonder if I will be there with any highspeed low drags from my bct units hooah!!- ds Johnson

There is one SBCT on ground. No Heavy BCTs. 5/2 Infantry is the 1ST SBCT on ground. Actually they are having a hard time over there. I personally know the Brigade Commander on ground. A good friend. He needs more troops and support. 5/2 SBCT has been on ground in Afghan since July 09. To this day they have lost little over 27 soldiers. That is a high number. That may seem high but only because we are finally focusing on Afghan, second their have been no other BCTs on ground, third we are shifting our BCTs from Iraq to Afghan, and finally we are finally taking the fight to the SOBs and 5/2 is facing a lot of IEDs. The issue and topic here is what type of armor vehicles these SBCT/HBCT needs wheel vs track. Afghan is no where like Iraq. Less MSRs and ASRs in Afghan and the terrian sucks over there. The next couple of units that are in the fight will sadly face a lot of IEDs until we get more units over there to combat the enemy. Afghan is 3 times bigger than Iraq. BCTs battle spaces are much bigger there than Iraq. In other words...we need more troops. Just a COL's opinion which is a fact from my battle expirence. Every senior officer knows that...now we have to convice President Obama and his staff we need this in order to have victory.