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More than 1,000 dead birds fall from sky in Ark

There are 10190 comments on the news.yahoo.com story from Jan 2, 2011, titled More than 1,000 dead birds fall from sky in Ark. In it, news.yahoo.com reports that:

BEEBE, Ark. – Wildlife officials are trying to determine what caused more than 1,000 blackbirds to die and fall from the sky over an Arkansas town.

The Arkansas Game and Fish Commission said Saturday that it began receiving reports about the dead birds about 11:30 p.m. the previous night. The birds fell over a 1-mile area of Beebe, and an aerial survey indicated that no other dead birds were found outside of that area.

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“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#7500 Sep 29, 2012
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>By the way dumb ass it is not ILLEGAL to KILL sparrows in NEW MEXICO! END OF STORY!
http://icwdm.org/handbook/birds/HouseSparrows...
If that's the end of the story, you better rewrite the beginning.... and the body.

You must have a reading comprehension problem. This is what I wrote in post #7493:
"You do know that meadowlarks are protected under the MBTA, are you not? As are MOST sparrows. The ONLY sparrow that is not protected under the MBTA is the House Sparrow (the non-native English Sparrow that can be found almost everywhere there are humans and buildings.)
ALL the other sparrows ARE protected."

I am fully aware that HOUSE SPARROWS are not protected by law. But ALL OTHER SPARROWS ARE. Here is a long list of them- all found in New Mexico.
http://www.nmbirds.org/...

And seeing that you were a ten year old kid, and you killed "thousands," it's a good bet you killed not only House Sparrows, but other sparrows as well.

You do know, as a "well informed" hunter and outdoorsman, that there are dozens of sparrow species in your state, correct?(Well, maybe as a ten year old, you didn't. I question why you were set loose with a gun as a child??)

Hell, I've never even birded in your state and I could name every damn sparrow without even looking at the list. What's more, I could not only list them, I could identify each and every one by either sight, OR sound, alone.

And you say I need to learn about nature? I admit, there's always more to learn and I am always eager to learn more. But I would say you could learn a few things as well, Warrior. There's more to nature than just stalking and killing.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#7501 Sep 29, 2012
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>By the way dumb ass it is not ILLEGAL to KILL sparrows in NEW MEXICO! END OF STORY!
http://icwdm.org/handbook/birds/HouseSparrows...
You will likely not believe anything I tell you, so here you go. The LAW, as written and passed in 1918 and amended a few times since then. That is the MBTA.(Migratory Bird Treaty Act)
Notice it is still illegal to kill, or even pick a feather off the ground, from a protected species.

http://www.fws.gov/laws/lawsdigest/migtrea.ht...
Just Curious

United States

#7502 Sep 29, 2012
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>Listen you stupid lib, post where I have admitted to poaching! I have told you on 3 seperate occassions that I was around 10 years old when I killed sparrows and meadowlarks. Now tell me genius were those birds protected when I was 10 years old? Stop lying. You have no idea what in the hell you are talking about. You should learn about nature first before you take up a cause you know nothing about. I have no regrets for killing anything, never have never will!
This Topix has gone to shit. Warrior you are a cold blooded bird killer. I hope one day a giant Michigan Taradactle Raptor swoops you up and devours your sorry no good for nothing carcass.
Old Army

United States

#7503 Sep 30, 2012
well if the sacred foo bird shets on your head dont wipe it off its instant death....so if the foo shets wear it...

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#7504 Sep 30, 2012
Just Curious wrote:
<quoted text>
This Topix has gone to shit. Warrior you are a cold blooded bird killer. I hope one day a giant Michigan Taradactle Raptor swoops you up and devours your sorry no good for nothing carcass.
I have to disagree on two counts:
1. This thread has NOT gone to shit. Though it's been in and out of the toilet a few times since its inception.
2.(this one might come as a surprise) I don't believe Warrior is a cold-blooded bird killer....at least not now....IF what he says is true about only killing protected birds when he was ten years old. He may have grown up in one way, but there's still some growing up to be done, IMO.

“Under his spell”

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#7505 Sep 30, 2012
Well thats strange 1000 is big number this is something to research ill be sure to avoid going to Arkansas

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#7506 Sep 30, 2012
MykissleavesyouBreathless wrote:
Well thats strange 1000 is big number this is something to research ill be sure to avoid going to Arkansas
What's strange? What needs to be researched?
Churmudgeon

Mountain Home, AR

#7507 Sep 30, 2012
MykissleavesyouBreathless wrote:
Well thats strange 1000 is big number this is something to research ill be sure to avoid going to Arkansas
Good stay away. We dont need anymore people in Arkansas. we dont even want any oxygen thieves to visit.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#7508 Sep 30, 2012
Churmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> Good stay away. We dont need anymore people in Arkansas. we dont even want any oxygen thieves to visit.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I'll be in Arkansas in a few weeks. Please keep me informed when the colors start to change in the Ozarks, K, Churm?
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#7509 Sep 30, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
I have better things to do than to search posts from two weeks ago to find your exact words. But I remember even Old Army telling you that killing those birds was nothing to be bragging about.
"Now tell me genius were those birds protected when I was 10 years old?"
Why yes. Yes, they were. Unless you are older than 104 years old.
"Stop lying."
Post proof that I have lied about anything.
"You should learn about nature first before you take up a cause you know nothing about."
I can assure you, when it comes to birds, I damn well DO know what I'm talking about.
Boy, you are a defensive one!
I posted a link above that says killing sparrows is not illegal in New Mexico this makes you a LIAR. Maybe I need to post it in Brail or narrow it down to where a 3rd grader can read and understand it. Let me know what I need to do to help you. It ALWAYS seems that you never let the FACTS get in the way of your opinion!

“Under his spell”

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#7510 Sep 30, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
What's strange? What needs to be researched?
the title post
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#7511 Sep 30, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
If that's the end of the story, you better rewrite the beginning.... and the body.
You must have a reading comprehension problem. This is what I wrote in post #7493:
"You do know that meadowlarks are protected under the MBTA, are you not? As are MOST sparrows. The ONLY sparrow that is not protected under the MBTA is the House Sparrow (the non-native English Sparrow that can be found almost everywhere there are humans and buildings.)
ALL the other sparrows ARE protected."
I am fully aware that HOUSE SPARROWS are not protected by law. But ALL OTHER SPARROWS ARE. Here is a long list of them- all found in New Mexico.
http://www.nmbirds.org/...
And seeing that you were a ten year old kid, and you killed "thousands," it's a good bet you killed not only House Sparrows, but other sparrows as well.
You do know, as a "well informed" hunter and outdoorsman, that there are dozens of sparrow species in your state, correct?(Well, maybe as a ten year old, you didn't. I question why you were set loose with a gun as a child??)
Hell, I've never even birded in your state and I could name every damn sparrow without even looking at the list. What's more, I could not only list them, I could identify each and every one by either sight, OR sound, alone.
And you say I need to learn about nature? I admit, there's always more to learn and I am always eager to learn more. But I would say you could learn a few things as well, Warrior. There's more to nature than just stalking and killing.
I killed nothing but THOUSANDS of House Sparrows and Meadowlarks were not endangered when I was 10 years old. You are LYING when you say you can identify each and everyone by SOUND ALONE! The foremost birding expert in the world can not even do that. Why would you admit that you could learn more especially after saying you could identify all of them by sight and sound alone? LMAO! I do find you entertaining though!
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#7512 Sep 30, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
You will likely not believe anything I tell you, so here you go. The LAW, as written and passed in 1918 and amended a few times since then. That is the MBTA.(Migratory Bird Treaty Act)
Notice it is still illegal to kill, or even pick a feather off the ground, from a protected species.
http://www.fws.gov/laws/lawsdigest/migtrea.ht...
I will believe you when you start telling the truth. I don't care about your protected species. Prove I killed one of them, just one!

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#7513 Sep 30, 2012
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>I posted a link above that says killing sparrows is not illegal in New Mexico this makes you a LIAR. Maybe I need to post it in Brail or narrow it down to where a 3rd grader can read and understand it. Let me know what I need to do to help you. It ALWAYS seems that you never let the FACTS get in the way of your opinion!
It is ILLEGAL to kill sparrows in New Mexico, as it is in ALL OTHER STATES.(with the exception ONCE AGAIN of HOUSE SPARROWS- A non-native species.)
You CANNOT legally kill Cassin's, Black-throated, Song, Field, White-crowned, White-throated, Grasshopper, Clay-colored, Brewers, Lark, Vesper, Baird's, Lincolns, Swamp, Harris's, Fox, Savannah Sparrows, etc.........as well as towhees and junco's which are also sparrows.

You are the one acting like a third grader. Why can't you ever just read something and learn from it, or verify it if you think it's incorrect, rather than disputing the message and the messenger because you don't like what's being said?

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#7514 Sep 30, 2012
MykissleavesyouBreathless wrote:
<quoted text>
the title post
That's already been done.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#7515 Sep 30, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
It is ILLEGAL to kill sparrows in New Mexico, as it is in ALL OTHER STATES.(with the exception ONCE AGAIN of HOUSE SPARROWS- A non-native species.)
You CANNOT legally kill Cassin's, Black-throated, Song, Field, White-crowned, White-throated, Grasshopper, Clay-colored, Brewers, Lark, Vesper, Baird's, Lincolns, Swamp, Harris's, Fox, Savannah Sparrows, etc.........as well as towhees and junco's which are also sparrows.
You are the one acting like a third grader. Why can't you ever just read something and learn from it, or verify it if you think it's incorrect, rather than disputing the message and the messenger because you don't like what's being said?
You contradict yourself by saying it's illegal to kill sparrows in New Mexico unless they are this kind of sparrow. If you can kill sparrows in New Mexico than it is not illegal. Even you can understand that. You called me a poacher and I called you out on it. Not only do you use the word poacher incorrectly you have NO PROOF that I have ever poached anything. I live here, I know what is legal and illegal. I know you probably learned every New Mexican State law that one time you passed through this great state but it still does not make you an expert on this state or it's birds!

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#7516 Sep 30, 2012
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>I killed nothing but THOUSANDS of House Sparrows and Meadowlarks were not endangered when I was 10 years old. You are LYING when you say you can identify each and everyone by SOUND ALONE! The foremost birding expert in the world can not even do that. Why would you admit that you could learn more especially after saying you could identify all of them by sight and sound alone? LMAO! I do find you entertaining though!
"Meadowlarks were not endangered when I was 10 years old."

That's irrelevent. Being "endangered" has NOTHING at all to do with it. Meadowlarks are protected under the MBTA,(Migratory Bird Treaty Act) which has been in effect since 1918.

Since you don't know squat about bird identification,(and even less as a ten year old) you cannot possibly claim for certain that the only "sparrows" you killed were House Sparrows. To most ten year olds, and even most adults, any "small bird" is a "sparrow." This can include warblers, vireos, buntings or anything else that is relatively small in size or brownish and streaked in coloring.

It's sad that people today know more about dinosaurs than the birds right out their window.

"You are LYING when you say you can identify each and everyone by SOUND ALONE!"
To be more specific, I said "Hell, I've never even birded in your state and I could name every damn sparrow without even looking at the list. What's more, I could not only list them, I could identify each and every one by either sight, OR sound, alone."
And I stand by that statement. Care to take me up on that?

"The foremost birding expert in the world can not even do that."
How do you know what bird experts can and can't do?

BTW, I don't claim to be a bird expert, but I do have a good working knowledge of bird song identification in most regions of this country. Sparrow songs are very distinctive. Though it IS possible to be thrown off by a mimic such as a mockingbird, thrasher, catbird or starling doing a sparrow imitation. Even then it's easy to decipher because the mockingbird always does three or more repetitions, the thrasher usually does two repetitions, and the catbird always does one repetition mixing other species songs in for good measure, along with the "cat call." The starling gives himself away with the "wolf whistle."

"Why would you admit that you could learn more especially after saying you could identify all of them by sight and sound alone?"
Because there's always more to learn. When I say "sound" alone, I should specify that I mean "song." They make distinctive calls too, many of which I know, but not all. My next venture is to learn their "night flight calls."

"I do find you entertaining though!"
I'll take that as a compliment.

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#7517 Sep 30, 2012
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>I will believe you when you start telling the truth. I don't care about your protected species. Prove I killed one of them, just one!
You prove one lie that you claim I told, and I'll prove you killed a protected species.

BTW, They are not MY protected species. They are OUR protected species, Warrior- OURS.

My guess, and hope, is now that you're older, and hopefully wiser, you can appreciate the fact that they are protected. There is good reason for that.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#7518 Sep 30, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
You prove one lie that you claim I told, and I'll prove you killed a protected species.
BTW, They are not MY protected species. They are OUR protected species, Warrior- OURS.
My guess, and hope, is now that you're older, and hopefully wiser, you can appreciate the fact that they are protected. There is good reason for that.
There are plenty of birds. When my son gets old enough to shoot a BB gun and he kills a few birds around my place I won't think twice about it, no matter what species they are!
Churmudgeon

Mountain Home, AR

#7519 Sep 30, 2012
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry to disappoint you, but I'll be in Arkansas in a few weeks. Please keep me informed when the colors start to change in the Ozarks, K, Churm?
They are already starting to change, the leaves on the scyamores along the creek are turning yellow. we wont have a frost for a few weeks but the weather has been cooler.

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